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It seems that Don Causey is of the "all is well" camp. I do not think anyone here took Ganyana's post to be "alarmist". I read it as looking out for the best interests of his clients, and the fact that he had moved his family was a fact that he felt honor bound to share with the readers here. Perhaps Causey is trying to convince the world of his superior contacts and resources, thus promoting the value of his subscriptions. Whatever his reasons, it was a low blow and unwarranted attempt to publicly humiliate Ganyana as an alarmist. Causey can continue to rely on 80 year old women in Harare for his intelligence in the Zim situation. I will continue to heed the words of Ganyana and other AR members who are living the real deal. SCI Life Member DSC Life Member | |||
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What a hoot! Don is the guy who had all the inside track on the Tanzania rate increases.... Remember that there would be none! He, of course, may be right, but I'd not bet a dime on the sun rising tomorrow if he guaranteed it. I'm going with the guy with the history, contacts and feet on the ground! | |||
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Jim, Sally Brown is a good contact so no need to discount her opinion (IMHO)  I leave for Zim next Wed. so am following this with some interest. The folks I am in touch with say come, so I'm coming... All the best; Brett | |||
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I had a conversation with my PH yesterday and ask about plans for Zim this fall and he said he has heard nothing that would discourage our plans. | |||
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The Zim Army is using some new tricks. Have left out the polling places and names, however the army plan is to send loyalists in charge of war vets to intimidate all across Zim. This was scheduled for today. Attached are details of the teams that will be deployed on 8th April 2008 to campaign for RG Mugabe in the run off under the guise of war veterans. With the exception of two, all the deployed officers are senior serving officers of the armed services. It is understood that Lt. Gen. PV Sibanda will command the operation with the assistance of Maj. Gen. Nick Dube. General Chiwenga will be the overall commander of the operation. He is being assisted by Maj. Gen Last Mugova and Col. S. Mudambo In total, 200 serving senior officers of the armed forces will be participating in the exercise. They will be commanding other war veterans and Zanu pf thugs. | |||
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You beat me to it Judge! Maybe Don should worry more about the "irresponsible babble" he writes and less about what is going on here on AR. ____________________________________________ "Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life." Terry Pratchett. | |||
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Wasn't Causey the guy who kept posting that the sky was falling in 2000-2002? He ought to stick to the facts and not try to villify Ganyana who was doing us all a courtesy with his post. | |||
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Gee, whiz! I feel so much better now that Causey has provided some guidance. Sound's like he's the Oracle of Zimbabwe. Or thinks he is. Actually, he seems to be a Mugabe apologist. | |||
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I pay for Causey's service, but I find this site to be real time with more accurate information shared by my fellow OCD African friends. Jeff | |||
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that is like saying: never mind the lion, it just want to play.  Ganyana i would hunt with you everyday, it sounds like you assesment of the situation is serious and heartfelt. please keep the reports coming regards peter | |||
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From the US Citizens Service, Embassy of the US: 2008 Warden Message, number 10 April 4, 2008 This message is to advise American citizens in Zimbabwe that the Embassy anticipates an anouncement today or over the weekend by the Zimbabwean Electorial Commisssion regarding the results of the presidential election. The Embassy continues to monitor the security situation across the country. We expect the situation to be fluid and may issue a recommendation for Americans to stand fast on short notice. Americans should continue to avoid travel to high density and industrial areas, as well as all gatherings, particularly political rallies. Americans should be particularly aware of using still, video or telephone cameras in any urban setting, or in the vecinity of any political activity, as this could be construed by Zimbabwean authorites as practicing journalism without a license, a crime punishable by arrest, incarceration and/or deportation. We strongly reccommend that American citizens register the presence in Zimbabwe via the Internet at https//travelregistration.state.gov or in person at the US Embassy in Harare, located at 172 Herbert Chitepo Avenue [Tel. 263-4-250-593/4/5, email consularharare@state.gov In the event of an emergensy, please call the above number and ask to be transfered to the duty officer. We will continue to provide information to you via email, text message, the internet and Voice of America radio broadcasts [090 on the AM dial or on Shortwave at 4930,13755 or 15775 Khz] as events unfold. ------------------- I am not an alarmist, but if I was headed to ZIm,,, I would have a plan A, B, and C and so would my Ph.drwes you can make more money, you can not make more time | |||
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I think the 5th grade spelling was the first clue, the above "profundity" just confirms it. jorge USN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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What's amazing to me is that someone of Causey's stature (whether that is reality or not is another discussion) would not know who Ganyana is. Ganyana is the real thing. The idea that he would find out who Ganyana was in the sense of crediting or discrediting him, as if he is just talking about an internet personality like Shootaway, is kind of amusing to me. Keep on Ganyana! _______________________________  | |||
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Ganyana is THE Chuck Norris of AR! | |||
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I think the key is to know, trust and follow the wise counsel of the folks that you are dealing with on the ground in Zim. In this regard, in speaking with someone today that falls into that category for me, the report is that the uncertainty around the election is creating tension and the situation could obviously change, but for the time being Zim is safe, hunters are coming and going without incident and life goes on. Based on what I heard today, I would be prudent in taking the normal precautions (register with the Embassy, avoid pictures of government installations, troops, etc.) but would not hestitate to go. Situation may be different tomorrow, next week or next month, but the same could be said for plenty of places. I am leaving in 55 days and not losing sleep over it -- other than being excited to go. Mike | |||
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Don Causey is not helping his credibility by doing this - IMHO, he should not be disparaging live, on the ground information from such a reliable source as Ganyana. I certainly don't subscribe to The Hunting Report for news about African hunting, and this sort of thing is partly why. Thanks to AR (which, of course, means thanks to Saeed) and other reliable sources, I generally know all the African hunting news published by The Hunting Report long before I read it there. The value of The Hunting Report to me derives from the non-African hunting information and the actual hunting reports themselves. I am grateful to our Zim members for their on the spot reporting and wish them well during this difficult time. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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I do subscribe to The Hunting Report and found Causey's e-mail arrogant and not well researched. If this is typical of the accuracy of his reporting, I'll think twice before renewing. "There are worse memorials to a life well-lived than a pair of elephant tusks." Robert Ruark | |||
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Ditto to the above comments. I spoke to a reliable source today (probably the same as Mike) and continue to believe that those on the ground are not willing to risk everything just to keep hunters coming. They are better people than that. Those who have hunted with them feel the same...those that have not, would have no foundation to feel that way understandably. I do find it very interesting that the State Dept's travel advisory is MILDER than it was at this time last year when I went to Zim. _______________________________ | |||
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Just received an email from John Sharp and things are quiet in Bulawayo and in his opinion they will remain so. He's on his way to RSA to visit his mother. Harare's another matter alltogether. He strongly recommends one heeds the advice and precautions from your PH and or Outfitter. jorge USN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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George, Did John say anything specific about Harare? I plan to overnight there next week... Brett | |||
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Brett I did not mean to impugn Sally Brown. I am sure she is a good contact in Zim at most times. My criticism was more directed as Don Causey for using Sally as his source to brand Ganyana's perspective as "alarmist". Sally Brown is an administrative officer for a safari operator's association in Zim. She is not "in the bush" and is probably at least one step removed from what is going on in places outside of the cities. The fact that she has been told (as apparently has Don) by unnamed PH's that there is no cause for concern is basing a perspective on third hand information by sources that remain anonomyous to the public. Those sources have the advantage of remaining unknown and thus are immune to any criticism or responsibility if things go sideways. Ganynana is well known to most here on AR, and has never been one to "warn" anyone about the situation in Zim. To the contrary, he has been the voice of calm and reason over the years. Ms Brown's observations are based on her experience in an urban area while traveling from home to the office, per Don Causey's statement. Unfortunately, the situation in Zim is what one would consider to be fluid, and it certainly appears that Mugabe blames the whites, in large part, residing in the rural areas and the white farmers for his election embarrassment, since they were big supporters of his opposition. Thus, the threat outside of Sally's commuting area can and probably is decidely different from the situation in other parts of the country. The fact that Don Causey admits he has no idea who Ganyana is would lead a reasonable person to conclude that Don is not a frequent reader of publications like African Hunter. Nor is he familiar with the members of this board, whom he may view as a threat to his publication. I am just guessing here, but I would also bet Don has no background in political science, international relations or African history. If he did, he would not be so quick to dismiss the volatility that a dictator who has ruled with an iron hand for 3 decades can bring to a country when he faces humiliation and possible exile. Granted, things do appear to be relatively calm now, but it vitally important not to dismiss reports by people of character and honor out of hand. Causey really ought to be reading the State Department rather than trying to divine tea leaves from 10,000 miles away. There is a much greater risk, in my view, that our State Department poses a more practical "risk" to scheduled hunts this year by pulling the plug on travel to Zim. And that will be a real possibility in the event Mugabe manages to stay in power. My reasoned opinion is that State already has a plan in place to increase sanctions and ban travel (likely in conjunction with the UK) and has been using that unannounced decision to put pressure on Mugabe to make a graceful, or not so graceful, exit. And don't be surprised if the Chinese fall at least partially into the US camp (it is important for them to have Bush make an appearance at the Olympics, especially in light of the situation in Tibet, and that just may be the quid pro quo). Bush is a strong supporter of Africa, and has done more than any US President to date for that continent. Don't expect him to sit on the diplomatic sidelines and watch Uncle Bob bring more misery to Zimbabwe. Of course, that is just my "hysterical" view as an AR member. As Don Causey has discrened, we are all just a bunch of barely literate, unwashed bumpkins that can only manage to peck out a message on a keyboard after first removing our fingers from our noses. SCI Life Member DSC Life Member | |||
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Brett: Nothing specific, he was just merely speculating on previous disturbances are almost always limited to Harare. Bulawayo's a different "tribe" and anti-Mugabe. Personally, I think the bottom line is Mugabe and his thugs lack the organizational and operational capability to exert much influence beyond Harare and the surrounding areas and certainly not in the bush. Enjoy your hunt! jorge USN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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FYI try this site http://www.zimbabwesituation.com/ Has some interesting articles to pick some info out of. Stu | |||
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I am scheduled to leave for Harare on April 27. I exchanged emails today with Rich Tabor, my PH. Rich lives in Harare and reports no trouble. Police presence, but not much different, if any, than usual. He just traveled from the Save Conservancy in the south east lowvelt to Harare and there were police blockades, but they were just waived through, without needing to stop. Ran into a few of these in Sept and Oct '06 and if we were required to stop, it was prefunctory. We continue to plan to drive from Harare to our Nyakasanga hunting camp. In Harare, "Shotgun and revolver next to the bed, just like normal..." Normal might not yet be too much different than here near DC, I have a 45 ACP next to my bed and a 12ga in the room next door. I've asked Rich if he would like his wife to join us in camp in Nyakasanga in the Zambezi Valley, since it seems to me that she will be (much) safer there than in Harare if things go south while we're hunting. They have no kids yet. Plan B is the Zambia exit by hunting truck, hopefully with guns, without if required. Plan C is the Zambia exit by boat. Brett, Where are you planning on staying in Harare? JPK  Free 500grains | |||
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HEY...Speak for yourself...personally I am quite adept at multi-tasking  ______________________________ "Are you gonna pull them pistols,...or whistle Dixie??" Josie Wales 1866 | |||
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Since Don Causey apparently reads the AR forum...cheers from a paying subscriber!    _______________________________ | |||
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I believe the lady's last name,IIRC, is "Bown" not Brown". If you are going to quote her, Sally, at least get her last name correct. | |||
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Plan D is Zamibia via the doggy paddle...avoiding the crocs and hippos! Go and have fun!!! I received this from Sally BOWN today:
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Jim- That was a great post. I had not thought through the Chinese factor. Causey and his report have always annoyed me; perhaps it is the ingrained arrogance you can't help but notice as a regular reader. My interest in the report has always been about African hunting. Can anyone here at AR think of a single "scoop" Mr. Causey has delivered for suscribers in recent memory? Insulting a long time regular who has contributed so much here is the last straw for me. Ganyana, who doesn't know me AT ALL, recently helped me with a small issue in country. In my eyes Causey has lost all credibility a a source for Africa and I will not be renewing. | |||
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The following is a note that I received this morning from Buzz Charlton. Again, to me the key is to stay in communication with someone that you know, trust and respect and rely on information from them as opposed to media reports, rumors and speculation.
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George, Thanks for the info! JPK, I'm not sure which hotel. I'm traveling with a friend who will be hunting with Andy Hunter in Chewore. Andy made the hotel arrangements. I'll be in Dande South for seven days then joining my frind in Chewore for the last seven days of his leopard-buff safari. I guess "plan B" is Angola or Moz by road (boat etc.). Brett | |||
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Airlines. Are the normal airlines who had scheduled service to the main cities ( H & B& Vic Falls)before the election on Mar 29 still keeping to their regular schedules? Anyone have any inputs from beings at these airports, ie, extra long lines, increased trouble coming in and getting hunting firearms permitted thru the airport police? Just another aspect of what us futer hunters (like in the next 60 days) might see at the airports. | |||
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Jim M -- very well said!!---as to the "Hunting Report"--- renual that was on my desk is now in the trash - will be sending "Don" my thoughts accordingly -- what a goof he is --UGH! G OMG!-- my bow is "pull-push feed" - how dreadfully embarrasing!!!!! | |||
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Ladies and Gentlemen, I posted the following message I received this afternoon on another thread. It seems a lot of people are leading a normal life - as far as Zimbabwe is concerned, while others are very scared of what might happen next. Attached is a confidential list with explanatory footnote supplied by a senior member of the Zimbabwe military, who is extremely annoyed and frustrated by the ongoing attempts of the military to achieve the impossible, and provoke a reaction from the mass of Zimbabweans who voted for the end of Mugabe's regime. Please give this the widest coverage since it is essential that the regional and international community see the extent of the determination by the military to subvert the expressed will of Zimbabweans. Despite such efforts, it is increasingly clear, both within and outside Zimbabwe, that there is a determined resolve to see an end to Mugabe's regime, which no amount of dirty tricks can prevent. 2008 April Harare Metropolitan Province AVM Karakadzai + CIO Bulawayo Province Col. C. Sibanda Bulawayo central Maj. J. Ndhlovu Maj. J. Ncube Manicaland and Mutare South Brig. Tarumbwa Buhera Central Col. M. Mzilikazi (MID) Buhera North Maj. L. M. Svosve Buhera South Maj. D. Muchena Buhera West Lt. Col. Kamonge Major Nhachi Chimanimani East Lt. Col. Murecherwa Chimanimani West Maj. Mabvuu Headlands Col. Mutsvunguma Makoni North Maj. V. Chisuko Makoni South Wing Commander Mandeya Mutare Central Lt. Col. Tsodzai Lt. Col. Sedze Mandi Chimene Mutare West Lt. Col. B. Kashiri Mutare North Lt. Col. Chizengwe Lt. Col. Mazaiwana Mashonaland Central Brig. Gen. Shungu Bindura South Col. Chipwere Bindura North Lt. Col. Parwada Muzarabani North Lt. Col. Kazaza Muzarabani South Maj. H. Maziri Rushinga Col. F. Mhonda Lt. Col. Betheuni Shamva North Lt. Col. Dzuda Shamva South Makumire Midlands AVM Muchena Brig. Gen. S. B. Moyo Lt Colonel Kuhuni Chirumhanzu South Maj T. Tsvangirai Mberengwa east Col. B. Mavire Mberengwa West Maj T. Marufu Matebeleland South AVM Abu Basutu Beit Bridge East Group Cpt. Mayera Rtd. Maj. Mbedzi Lt. Col. B. Moyo Gwanda South Maj J. D. Moyo Gwanda Central Maj. B. Tshuma Matopo North Lt. Col. Maphosa Matebeleland North Brig. Gen. Khumalo Binga North Maj E. S. Matonga Lupane East Lt Col. Mkwananzi Lupane West Lt Col. Mabhena Tsholotsho Lt. Col. Mlalazi Hwange Central Lt. Col P. Ndhlovu Masvingo Province Maj. Gen. E. A. Rugeje Rtd. Maj. Gen. Gibson Mashingaidze Rtd. Brig. General Rangwani Bikita West Maj. B. R. Murwira Chiredzi Central Col G. Mashava Chiredzi West Maj. E. Gono Gutu South Maj. Chimedza (Medical Doctor) AVM Muchena Masvingo Lt. Col. Takavingofa Mwenezi West Lt. Col. Muchono Mwenezi East Lt. Col. Mpabanga Zaka East Maj. R. Kwenda Mash West Province Brig. Gen. Sigauke Chinhoyi Col Gwekwerere Chegutu East Lt. Colonel W. Tutisa Hurungwe East Lt. Col. B. Mabambe Mhondoro Mubaira Col. C. T. Gurira Zvimba North Cpt. T. Majongwe Mashonaland East Brig. Gen. D. Nyikayaramba Rtd. Brig Gen Rungani Chikomba Central Lt. Col. Marara Gromonzi North Lt Col. Mudzimba Maj F. Mbewe Marondera Central Maj. Gen. Chedondo (COSG) Lt. Col B. Kashiri Marondera West Squadron Leader U. Chitauro Murehwa South Maj. Gurure Murehwa North Lt. Col. Mukurazhizha Lt. Col. Chinete In total, 200 serving senior officers of the armed forces will be participating in the exercise. They will be commanding other war veterans and Zanu pf thugs. The teams will be deployed on 8th April 2008 to campaign for RG Mugabe in the run off under the guise of war veterans. With the exception of two, all the deployed officers are senior serving officers of the armed services. It is understood that Lt. Gen. PV Sibanda will command the operation with the assistance of Maj. Gen. Nick Dube. General Chiwenga will be the overall commander of the operation. He is being assisted by Maj. Gen Last Mugova and Col. S. Mudambo www.accuratereloading.com | |||
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Brett, Since a good PH set up the accomodations I'm sure that they are secure. I will be staying at Rich's house (free beer and the price is right!) From Dande or Chewore, in case things get ugly, the main road, a gravel road, through the length of the Zambezi Valley runs south west from Dande/Chewore past Sapi through Mana Pools to the main east-west, cross country, tarred road not all that far from the river, then its across the bridge over the Zambezi and into to Zambia. I've done the trip from Harare to the escarpment and on down to the main Valley road and north east on to Chewore. About three hours from the east-west tarred road to Roger Whittall's previous camp in Chewore, just across from Dande, iirc. Maybe a half hour or so less to the Chewore River. Once south of Dande, there are no villages, settlements or towns and only PH's, clients, camp staff and game scouts or rangers in the valley, so no cause for trouble from the political side. You will most likely use the more northern route from Harare to Dande and Chewore since it is much shorter and more of the route is tarred. Because of the villages and towns north of Chewore, and so a reason for someone's mischeif, the southern exit might be preferred in case of real trouble. A look at the maps sticky here on AR in "African Travel", iirc, will provide a map of Zim which will show you the layout of the concessions if you haven't taken a look yet. JPK Free 500grains | |||
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So sayeth the BBC:
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Hello guys OK, this is a invite too all that are going to Zimbabwe in this year, I have a hunting camp on the Northern border with Mozambique, in the Tete province , south of Cahorra Bassa, If you have any !@!@#$#@ coming your way, and you are north of Harare, there is a Mozambique border post called Laqissoni, at 16 00 04.04 S & 31 15 19.06 E, this border post is flexible read USD , and is about 60 km from my camp on Cahorra, Sable Hills Safaris camp, at 15 43 51.44S & 31 21 06.93 E. If and when the @## hits a fan, and you and your PH are stumped, hop over We will have beer, and beds , I know this is the worst idea, but I have family buried in Zim, and I can remember vivd descriptions from my cousins in PATU, and Scouts,my first girlfrien was a survivor of a ambush in the old days, so please take this info and if needed you are more than welcome. Walter Enslin kwansafaris@mweb.co.za DRSS- 500NE Sabatti 450 Rigby 416 Rigby | |||
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Looks like Causey wants to be the Guru of all things Zim. I can't help wondering about someone that disparages someone else to make them selves appear more important. Don has shot him self in the foot and then stuck that bloody foot in his mouth. 465H&H | |||
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