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I rarely visit AH. I find AH a much less experienced group than AR. There are a half dozen or so internet experts on AH that comment on almost every post. These AH internet experts have 9,000+ posts in a pretty short period. Just browse the main topics on AH and very easy to see who these people who post on every topic are, they must not have a life. These AH Internet experts have been on Zero, one, two or three AFRICAN hunts and rarely out of the country hunting, but they are self proclaimed experts on dangerous game rifles and hunting the world LOL. I find AH a bit of a old ladies club, lot’s of gossiping. Much like the INTERNET EXPERTS ON 24 Hour Campfire. 4WD | |||
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Just to make sure we are talking about the same post, it is the one from “photocollector73”? If so, he acknowledges the good things he has heard about Andrew, he labels the negative things as “cartoonish” and “contradictory”. He recognizes the harassment, threats and violence Andrew has been subject to. When accused of saying something in public about someone on-site he states that he didn’t know he was on-site and hoped Andrew would respond. Why would this guy not be taken at his word? Andrew, perhaps you know who this guy is or have more information about his intentions. Otherwise, you’re a bit of a public figure around here (and I assume on other forums), there are conversations by third parties about others (posters and not) constantly. Why would this be different or more sensitive? My condolences and prayers for the shitstorm you have had to endure, just not sure this was part of it? | |||
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505 Gibbs The poster on AH came over to accurate Reloading and has been reading the posts here. However, he does not post here. At that time he started changing his story. Making excuses for not being understood or not choosing his wording well. The poster was not wanting to listen to individuals who knew Andrew. My thinking and just mine who or what kind of individual would make a posting and not work on their wording to be understood by readers. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "You've got the strongest hand in the world. That's right. Your hand. The hand that marks the ballot. The hand that pulls the voting lever. Use it, will you" John Wayne | |||
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I am cheering for you, Andrew ! | |||
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Really? You must read different posts than I do. Like here, there are members with vast hunting experience - Africa and elsewhere. Quite a few are members here as well. The question from the OP was at the very least phrased badly. A number of AH members who know and respect Andrew provided some immediate context. | |||
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Red Leg, Totally a different vibe and experience level of contributors on AH. My experience and opinion. On AH there are very few actual contributors, with the same old small group of participants , patting themselves on each other’s backs day after day.The reason I rarely spend anytime there. The post bringing up Andrew’s unfortunate situation is a perfect example of the old lady type of gossiping that goes on over on AH. WHATEVER YOU THINK, The OP was not trying to do Andrew any favors by starting that thread, especially when Andrew does not participate on AH. Sounds like AH is where your spend all your time, since this is your first post. I stand by my statement. AH is a less informed group of gossiping self proclaimed internet experts. I ,like Andrew , spend my time here. I get enough gossiping and drama , I don’t need to get more of it from a bunch of gossiping , like a old ladies club on a hunting forum . This is why you don’t find that type of post here on AR about someone with Andrew’s reputation. 4WD | |||
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Thats very interesting. I have to wonder aloud how that poster became aware of Accurate Reloading? Several months ago a poster here made a public inquiry as to the whereabouts and or welfare of a member here that goes by the handle MacD37. I knew MacD37 from my interactions with him at Africahunting dot com and proceeded to the private messaging system there with the intention to simply reach out to him. Being fully aware that any mention of Accurate Reloading in the forums there is verboten, I privately sent him a message that there were a number of folks wondering about him on Accurate Reloading, that I hoped all was well, and actually explained in my private message to him that I was inquiring privately because the terms of service there prohibited me from posting it publicly. I hit send. Immediately I got a ping back from the AH messaging system. I opened up my sent messages there to find that the words "accurate reloading" were censored from my private message and the message rejected... So I would have to think somebody here or at AH knows who that poster is and is communicating with them thru other means, because they most assuredly didn't read the words Accurate Reloading over at AH. Oh and by the way, censoring my private messages was an instant kibosh to any interest in further participation.  . | |||
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Bloody hell! It is even worse than I thought! I have NEVER, EVER, accessed any members private messages! Non of my bloody business! Very sad indeed, that the management of AH think AR is any threat to them. I suppose AR is only here for the benefit of our members. No one is asked to pay a penny, and everyone is free to say whatever they wish. May be having a hunting website to earn money has gone too far?? | |||
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Saeed, sad does not even begin to describe how I felt about it. I had ties there for years after I won an essay contest in 2010 for a free safari in South Africa. My very first safari. My late friend Bill Quimby was so excited for me. That hunt was fabulous and changed my life forever. But like I said, censoring my private messages is a FULL STOP. . | |||
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Damn that is ridiculous. | |||
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freedom has a cost and luckily we have Saeed for this. | |||
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Best wishes Andrew. As far as that other site, I have no use for it. I went over there years ago to defend a friend. No interest in being micromanaged. I still receive their stupid offers, however… | |||
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I’m looking forward to my 3 week adventure with Andrew this July/August. | |||
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Which area(s)Cme? | |||
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I've got precious little use for plaintiffs' lawyers, but if there is a billionaire on the other side they'll sue him for sure. And the avaricious bastards will do it for a percentage of the recovery and fund the litigation. Might be time to strike back with mercenaries. I can give you the worst of the worst if you want them. | |||
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Andrew, Tell me where we can get jurisdiction and venue. Need facts as to where people live and where stuff happened. | |||
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By the way, what is AH and what has happened? | |||
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Absolutely not mate and I think you got the wrong end of the stick. Billionaires set up multiple companies to protect their assets and are not always aware of the tactics of others on the ground. My reference is not to PTJ but rather to some serious ugly individuals who realized there was a profit to make from hijacking my project. Friends turned into enemies and those I trusted became my foes. Other than that I cannot say much more except it was extremely traumatic. But in life, one door closes and another opens and I am privileged to hunt anywhere in Zambia without looking over my shoulder or dealing with communal politics. I have the support of my family and get to spend more time with them. Ironically the lands I rejuvenated are fully protected and the game is secure which was my vision. I wish no harm on others but seek justice for those in the community who have no voice and as landlords, they have rights to their lands and their natural resources. ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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AH is a commercial hunting website. They don't like free speech. They don't like facts. They don't like the truth. You have to pay what I understand $2,500 a year to advertise your your hunts. For that you are protected from any negative reports from the clients you screw. They read your private messages, to make sure you NEVER, EVER, mention AR. AR, of course, you already know and love. No adverts. No hanky panky pandering to paid for crooks. Dedicated to us, hunters, professional hunters, outfitters, and anyone interested in shooting and hunting. On AR you are who you are. You stand on your own merit, reputation and two feet. Crooks and silly idiots don't survive on AR. Not because of the management of the site, but because of you, who are free to post whatever you wish. Funny part is AH is run by people who live in a DEMOCRACY??!! And AR is run by someone who thi8nks DEMOCRACY is the biggest bloody crook we are all suffering today!  | |||
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Andrew, I'm sorry this is happening to you. I've always wanted to hunt with you in Zambia. I'm looking for something in 2015. Let me know what you've got and I'd love to go. I know that's a ways away. Wish I could do something sooner. | |||
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Saeed, Agree totally about your comments about AR. Your comments about Democracy also have merit given the current state of affairs with the media and their manipulation of the masses. | |||
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 ______________________ DRSS ______________________ Hunt Reports 2015 His & Her Leopards with Derek Littleton of Luwire Safaris - http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/2971090112 2015 Trophy Bull Elephant with CMS http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/1651069012 DIY Brooks Range Sheep Hunt 2013 - http://forums.accuratereloadin...901038191#9901038191 Zambia June/July 2012 with Andrew Baldry - Royal Kafue http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7971064771 Zambia Sept 2010- Muchinga Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4211096141 Namibia Sept 2010 - ARUB Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6781076141 | |||
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Jim; like many of us, Lavaca wishes he could go back in time. | |||
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I went on AH under a new name just to test the waters and posted a few pics and was closed down for solicitation! Then there are those who post that they just by chance came across this magnificent 50-inch buffalo on their 400-acre estate together with the fantastically maned Kalahari Lion who broke through their fence! ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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 you mean lion didn’t really break in yesterday? And the Buffalo wasn’t really charging the ‘Cruiser carrying lucerne (alfalfa)?Karl Evans | |||
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Serves you right! Operating in the MAFIA ZONE you have to pay PROTECTION! I just love the way some run a website. Soon they will be competing with Zuckerberg by selling all your information! | |||
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Sorry to hear that. An uphill battle. When Jones’ Global touches down in Mozambique he is greeted by the Minister of Tourism. No doubt similar levels of status at his other fiefdoms in Tanzania and Zambia. There are two types of people in the world: those that get things done and those who make excuses. There are no others. | |||
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They posted a link to their rules. So, I quoted their rule that stated no links to commercial sites that are competitors are allowed and explained that AR is not a commercial site, so why the ban. That post got deleted and now on a Gigabit Internet feed their site either takes minutes to come up or doesn't come up at all. Methinks I am shadow banned now. | |||
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Very sad really. We support every hunting and shooting site around. Mention them, link them, recommend them, criticize them, your choice! I suppose it is a bit hard trying to play second fiddle to the best!  | |||
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Saeed, It's a Constitional Republic not a Democracy. Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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all is true and the most funny is im living in a kingdom where they let me believe in voting is democracy while ruled by a king ... | |||
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Being fairly new on here, I have been hearing through reliable sources that even AR bans people for opinions Is that true? | |||
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The only people who get banned are idiots who set themselves up to disrupt the forums. Every single one gets a warning first. If they continue, we do ban them. Funny thing is very few of them who do get banned, and allowed in again, remain here because they get up to their usual tricks. By being disruptive I mean they get into personal fights with others on PMs. We ask them to take their fights off site. When they don’t, they get kicked out. | |||
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Yeah - If we got banned just because of our opinions, there wouldn't anyone left LOL! "At least once every human being should have to run for his life - to teach him that milk does not come from the supermarket, that safety does not come from policemen, and that news is not something that happens to other people." - Robert Heinlein | |||
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I say, no world is perfect and that’s fair assessment Banners and banned will have opposite opinions as we can read about AH on here | |||
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I meant to be DSC Member...bad typing skills. Marcus Cady DRSS | |||
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I think banning people because they mention another website, or banning the mention of another website, is the ultimate in stupidity! AR is no competition to anyone. We support every hunting and shooting site. They can be mentioned, recommended, linked in posts, to anyone’s desire. | |||
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Well said Saeed | |||
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Take heart, Andrew! Zambia's wildlife sector is going from strength to strength, and early, successful experiments like yours have paved the way for wider discussions on how to unlock the potential that this country's wildlife economy has. The only way forward is by working through meaningful, equitable partnerships with the local communities as owners of the majority of the country's land and habitats. Fortunately Zambia's institutions are getting stronger, more participatory, its policies more inclusive...and all this is a good defence against land-grabbing and other vices that would ultimately harm the long-term future of wildlife as a resource here. | |||
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