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I've heard the 220 grain solids from the .30-06 Springfield have been used in the past for dangerous game animals such as elephant or buffalo. Is this something that would be considered a stunt or perhaps practical in a pinch? I'm just curious and do not plan on "trying this at home" as they say.

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I under stand it is relatively common among those still culling elephants.


Anyone who claims the 30-06 is ineffective has either not tried one, or is unwittingly commenting on their own marksmanship
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common? no. mike LaGrange used garands with A square ammo for culling cows and calves. Rule of thumb for the culling teams- when you had shot 500 ele you could use a rifle under 9,3 if you wished. I have used a .308 twice. Difficult circumstances and I got away with it- would never do so by choice.

Have guided a kid onto a tuskless armed with a 30-06. he made a perfect side brain shot at 25m and it all went according to script. It can be done but you are limiting yourself and there is a very good chance that the ph will end up shooting your ele.

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There's a guy who works for Mpumalanga Game Dept and has to deal with problem animals who tells me he chooses to use a 300 WM for all his control work, including elephant. - I wouldn't recommend it to most people though. His wealth of experience might make it possible, but very few people have that degree of experience.






 
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Gerard from G S CUSTOM told me a ph useing his 165 gn proj in a 300 win mag shot an elephant with a frontal brain shot...end of story
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Gerard from G S CUSTOM told me a ph useing his 165 gn proj in a 300 win mag shot an elephant with a frontal brain shot...end of story
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End of what story?


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Bell did it with a 276 Rigby! So what does that prove?

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Ganyana, I hear through the grapevine that Mike LaGrange is supposed to be culling hippos in the Luangwa. Any idea of what he uses for jobs like that?


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common? no. mike LaGrange used garands with A square ammo for culling cows and calves. Rule of thumb for the culling teams- when you had shot 500 ele you could use a rifle under 9,3 if you wished. I have used a .308 twice. Difficult circumstances and I got away with it- would never do so by choice.

Have guided a kid onto a tuskless armed with a 30-06. he made a perfect side brain shot at 25m and it all went according to script. It can be done but you are limiting yourself and there is a very good chance that the ph will end up shooting your ele. Buffalo- no ways.


Ganyana. Have been trying to e-mail you and Jacqui with all failing. Let me know by PM if there is a better address. Thanks.


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I'd feel pretty well armed, for anything needing a solid, with a .30-06 loaded with 220 grain solids.

But it would be far from my first choice for that kind of work.


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Mikes still using 30-06
 
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And the elephant poachers using the 303 British. Certainly is do-able.

As long as you have adequate penetration to the brain, big deal. But if LaGrange screws up and misses the brain, does he have to pay a trophy fee?

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As long as you have adequate penetration to the brain, big deal. But if LaGrange screws up and misses the brain, does he have to pay a trophy fee?

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.... But if LaGrange screws up and misses the brain, does he have to pay a trophy fee?

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Perhaps HE becomes the trophy fee Eeker


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