30-06 220 grain solids for African dangerous game

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16 March 2008, 10:41

jfm

30-06 220 grain solids for African dangerous game

I've heard the 220 grain solids from the .30-06 Springfield have been used in the past for dangerous game animals such as elephant or buffalo. Is this something that would be considered a stunt or perhaps practical in a pinch? I'm just curious and do not plan on "trying this at home" as they say.

Thanks,

jfm

16 March 2008, 12:07

458Win

I under stand it is relatively common among those still culling elephants.

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16 March 2008, 13:38

Ganyana

common? no. mike LaGrange used garands with A square ammo for culling cows and calves. Rule of thumb for the culling teams- when you had shot 500 ele you could use a rifle under 9,3 if you wished. I have used a .308 twice. Difficult circumstances and I got away with it- would never do so by choice.

Have guided a kid onto a tuskless armed with a 30-06. he made a perfect side brain shot at 25m and it all went according to script. It can be done but you are limiting yourself and there is a very good chance that the ph will end up shooting your ele.

Buffalo- no ways.

16 March 2008, 13:51

shakari

There's a guy who works for Mpumalanga Game Dept and has to deal with problem animals who tells me he chooses to use a 300 WM for all his control work, including elephant. - I wouldn't recommend it to most people though. His wealth of experience might make it possible, but very few people have that degree of experience.

17 March 2008, 00:25

M 98

Gerard from G S CUSTOM told me a ph useing his 165 gn proj in a 300 win mag shot an elephant with a frontal brain shot...end of story
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17 March 2008, 00:27

Will

quote:
Originally posted by M 98:
Gerard from G S CUSTOM told me a ph useing his 165 gn proj in a 300 win mag shot an elephant with a frontal brain shot...end of story
Daniel

End of what story?

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17 March 2008, 00:41

465H&H

Bell did it with a 276 Rigby! So what does that prove?

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17 March 2008, 00:57

458Win

Ganyana, I hear through the grapevine that Mike LaGrange is supposed to be culling hippos in the Luangwa. Any idea of what he uses for jobs like that?

17 March 2008, 05:19

billinthewild

quote:
Originally posted by Ganyana:
common? no. mike LaGrange used garands with A square ammo for culling cows and calves. Rule of thumb for the culling teams- when you had shot 500 ele you could use a rifle under 9,3 if you wished. I have used a .308 twice. Difficult circumstances and I got away with it- would never do so by choice.

Have guided a kid onto a tuskless armed with a 30-06. he made a perfect side brain shot at 25m and it all went according to script. It can be done but you are limiting yourself and there is a very good chance that the ph will end up shooting your ele. Buffalo- no ways.

Ganyana. Have been trying to e-mail you and Jacqui with all failing. Let me know by PM if there is a better address. Thanks.

17 March 2008, 05:41

Michael Robinson

I'd feel pretty well armed, for anything needing a solid, with a .30-06 loaded with 220 grain solids.

But it would be far from my first choice for that kind of work.

17 March 2008, 16:44

Ganyana

Mikes still using 30-06

17 March 2008, 17:50

Will

And the elephant poachers using the 303 British. Certainly is do-able.

As long as you have adequate penetration to the brain, big deal. But if LaGrange screws up and misses the brain, does he have to pay a trophy fee?

17 March 2008, 18:55

Ganyana

quote:

As long as you have adequate penetration to the brain, big deal. But if LaGrange screws up and misses the brain, does he have to pay a trophy fee?

Nope

17 March 2008, 20:03

AzGuy

quote:
Originally posted by Will:
.... But if LaGrange screws up and misses the brain, does he have to pay a trophy fee?

Perhaps HE becomes the trophy fee