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I recently returned from Namibia. As most of you know, leopard hunting using dogs has been outlawed. Not sure why, but I did hear some operators may have been buying box-trapped leopards from farmers and releasing them to be tracked by the dogs.


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Did you get a leopard? How was the hunt?
 
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I heard the same thing back when dog hunts were legal.
 
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Did you get a leopard? How was the hunt?


Didn't see a leopard except on trail cam pics. Had a good time however and the price was very reasonable. Got a nice gemsbok, which was my secondary goal, as well as klipspringer, steenbok, and zebra. Shot baboons and jackals too.

I can see why DOJ loves the little guys. What a hoot. Klipspringer remind me of chamois hunting in New Zealand, except it is far easier. Cool animal; watching them jump from rock to rock is worth the trip.


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I heard the same thing back when dog hunts were legal.


I had a dog hunt scheduled the year they made it illegal. Now I am glad I didn't make that hunt.


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When hunting with PH´s that love the "bait" hunt you hear that version and when you hunt with ph´s that love the "dog hunt" you hear about hunts like this below..

The outfitter buys a leopard dead or alive, if its alive he kills it and puts it in the freezer and wait for a client to arrive.

A few days in the hunt he ask one of his trackers to take the leopard out of the freezer and put in in a tree lets say 100 meters from the road the client will be driving past each morning.

One early morning the PH see a sleeping(dead) leopard in a tree, the client shoots it and hopefully it falls down..Its to "risky" to get in close (still frozen) so they leave it for a few hours for a early brunch...gets back and find it under the tree hopefully not frozen Smiler

Both scenarios have probably happened but not on a big scale I would think, its just easier to hunt a live/free one Smiler
 
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Sorry you didn't get your leopard, but sounds like you had a good hunt none the less. One of my target species in RSA this summer is a klipspringer; they sure are neat to look at.

You missed out on a great leopard hunt back then with dogs, if your choice in hunters was good. Hound hunting for leopards with a reputable outfitter is some of the most exciting hunting you can do.

There are many in Namibia who are still actively campaigning to restore it. Unfortunately, I don't believe it will ever be legalized again.
 
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Hey mate welcome back. Glad you had a good hunt.....so where are the photo's? Wink


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Hey mate welcome back. Glad you had a good hunt.....so where are the photo's? Wink


I have never posted a photo...

If you and Jorge and have good hunts, I will be happy, even if I didn't get a leopard this time.


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When hunting with PH´s that love the "bait" hunt you hear that version and when you hunt with ph´s that love the "dog hunt" you hear about hunts like this below..

The outfitter buys a leopard dead or alive, if its alive he kills it and puts it in the freezer and wait for a client to arrive.

A few days in the hunt he ask one of his trackers to take the leopard out of the freezer and put in in a tree lets say 100 meters from the road the client will be driving past each morning.

One early morning the PH see a sleeping(dead) leopard in a tree, the client shoots it and hopefully it falls down..Its to "risky" to get in close (still frozen) so they leave it for a few hours for a early brunch...gets back and find it under the tree hopefully not frozen Smiler

Both scenarios have probably happened but not on a big scale I would think, its just easier to hunt a live/free one Smiler


Oh ja! The one problem with that stunt is that the poor taxidermist has to fill a huge hole where the frozen bone and muscle has blown out a large piece of skin. I saw photos used in a civil claim of a cheetah hunted frozen. The clients suspicions were aroused when he saw through the scope, a large amount of matter on impact, leaving the cat, and the shot cat never moved, just sat there. Big Grin
 
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I think this have happened in Namibia and the PH got caught, at least thats the story I have heard Big Grin
 
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rotflmo

When hunting with PH´s that love the "bait" hunt you hear that version and when you hunt with ph´s that love the "dog hunt" you hear about hunts like this below..

The outfitter buys a leopard dead or alive, if its alive he kills it and puts it in the freezer and wait for a client to arrive.

A few days in the hunt he ask one of his trackers to take the leopard out of the freezer and put in in a tree lets say 100 meters from the road the client will be driving past each morning.

One early morning the PH see a sleeping(dead) leopard in a tree, the client shoots it and hopefully it falls down..Its to "risky" to get in close (still frozen) so they leave it for a few hours for a early brunch...gets back and find it under the tree hopefully not frozen Smiler

Both scenarios have probably happened but not on a big scale I would think, its just easier to hunt a live/free one Smiler


Oh ja! The one problem with that stunt is that the poor taxidermist has to fill a huge hole where the frozen bone and muscle has blown out a large piece of skin. I saw photos used in a civil claim of a cheetah hunted frozen. The clients suspicions were aroused when he saw through the scope, a large amount of matter on impact, leaving the cat, and the shot cat never moved, just sat there. Big Grin



But that could be explained with a leopard are soft skinned Smiler
 
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I have heard about that type of "hunt " from some that are very knowledgable about the business. Reprehensible.
 
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after shooting a baited leopard and then hunting one with dogs I will never again hunt a leopard on bait. There just something to be said for the excitement level of a cat that may very well charged. So far I have hunted two cats with dogs. Both times I was charged. One cat was killed at a dead charge around 15 meters. The other cat was shot by my wife in mid air jumping to attack me. The leopard fell dead at my feet. I'm judging anyones hunting method. I'm merely saying I had one heck of a hunt and very much prefer to use dogs.
 
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same experience and same end result/conclusion for me. there is something inherently exciting about stopping a leopard charge in mid-air....


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rotflmo

When hunting with PH´s that love the "bait" hunt you hear that version and when you hunt with ph´s that love the "dog hunt" you hear about hunts like this below..

The outfitter buys a leopard dead or alive, if its alive he kills it and puts it in the freezer and wait for a client to arrive.

A few days in the hunt he ask one of his trackers to take the leopard out of the freezer and put in in a tree lets say 100 meters from the road the client will be driving past each morning.

One early morning the PH see a sleeping(dead) leopard in a tree, the client shoots it and hopefully it falls down..Its to "risky" to get in close (still frozen) so they leave it for a few hours for a early brunch...gets back and find it under the tree hopefully not frozen Smiler

Both scenarios have probably happened but not on a big scale I would think, its just easier to hunt a live/free one Smiler


Oh ja! The one problem with that stunt is that the poor taxidermist has to fill a huge hole where the frozen bone and muscle has blown out a large piece of skin. I saw photos used in a civil claim of a cheetah hunted frozen. The clients suspicions were aroused when he saw through the scope, a large amount of matter on impact, leaving the cat, and the shot cat never moved, just sat there. Big Grin



But that could be explained with a leopard are soft skinned Smiler


There is a slight difference between a hole made with a soft nose of say maximum 12.5 mm and a hole that looks as though it was made with 155mm field gun. Cool
 
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