Does the hard cover have more pictures for each animal at multiple angles?

I have the mini-edition, but it's limited on angles.

Taking my wife to RSA for the first time this summer and want to have pics with multiple angles.

She's a really good shot and has made many tough shots (elk and aoudad facing; pronghorn walking away in neck), so not to worried. But everything extra helps!

Yes the revised edition does
Available from Amazon
https://www.amazon.com/Perfect...i%2Caps%2C159&sr=8-2

Imagine a line passing through the chest connecting the shoulders.

Aim to break it from any angle.

Works every time, never failed.

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Imagine a line passing through the chest connecting the shoulders.

Aim to break it from any angle.

Works every time, never failed.

Agreed. The crease of the shoulder and below the halfway line works for me. The exceptions would be Croc and maybe Giraffe.

Shot lots of crocs.

All brained.

Only shot one giraffe, which was wounded by a friend and running away.

Got him in the base of the tail and dropped him on the spot.

With the rifle and bullets I am using, aiming for that spot in the middle of the chest works great.

I never both about the angle.

Even on buffalo and from the rear.

Works every time.

One of the most stupid things I have seen about shot placement was the PAYLINE!

Utterly ridiculous!

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Imagine a line passing through the chest connecting the shoulders.

Aim to break it from any angle.

Works every time, never failed.

This is the truth and what I do.
When I over think, I make a bad shot...

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Originally posted by dogcat:

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Imagine a line passing through the chest connecting the shoulders.

Aim to break it from any angle.

Works every time, never failed.

This is the truth and what I do.
When I over think, I make a bad shot...

The PAYLINE doesn’t just make you over think, but you imagine needing to be on the level of Einstein to understand it!

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Originally posted by Austin Hunter:
Does the hard cover have more pictures for each animal at multiple angles?

I have the mini-edition, but it's limited on angles.

Taking my wife to RSA for the first time this summer and want to have pics with multiple angles.

She's a really good shot and has made many tough shots (elk and aoudad facing; pronghorn walking away in neck), so not to worried. But everything extra helps!

Austin Hunter, your question was answered by the author of the book in case you didn't know. You can't beat that!

Yep! On the way from Amazon!

I always aim for the heart but focus on where I want the bullet to exit on the other side.

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Originally posted by Michael Robinson:
I always aim for the heart but focus on where I want the bullet to exit on the other side.

Indirectly, one always hits the heart, no matter from what angle.

That is where the blood comes from!

Shot an impala, broke both his front legs just under his chest.

The bullet creased the chest, but did not go inside.

He dropped dead!

Roy was very upset, he was using a stick trying to get into the chest cavity, saying "he shouldn't have died!"

I said He is dead because he was shot in the HEART!"

He said this is not where the heart is.

Told him it is, because that is were the blood comes from!

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Imagine a line passing through the chest connecting the shoulders.

Aim to break it from any angle.

Works every time, never failed.

What are you calling the “shoulders”…the actual shoulder joint? Or, the generalized shoulder region…kind of the center of the forequarter?

The actual shoulder joint (what I envision when someone says shoulder) is pretty far forward for this theory on quartering towards shots.

Could you put a pick up with a dot on what you call a shoulder aim-point?

I mean the middle of chest.

That is where all the plumbing is.

You cause serious damage there and it is the end for the animal.

I almost always hit towards the top of the heart, or higher into the aorta.

Roy calls it my favorite spot.

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Imagine a line passing through the chest connecting the shoulders.

Aim to break it from any angle.

Works every time, never failed.

I like this idea, one of the last African animals I shot was a Sable in Coutada 9, he was angling away and I remember visualizing the center of his chest by how his front legs where positioned and was really surprised how far back the bullet entered, smoked him right dead center!!

biebs will have to explain his favorite texas heart shot

The Texas Heart Shot is the only one you ever get after missing the first with your trusty Mossberg! :-)

I shot a croaker nyala in the base of the spine walking away in thick bush in KWZN in 2006 with my 375 H&H w/300 gr Aframe. Crumpled. DRT.

Saeed is right, don’t overthink it.

Usually the PH isn’t going to let you take a frontal or a rearward presentation shot.

Aim about a third up from the bottom of the chest at the offside front leg and generally they fall over fast.

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Originally posted by crbutler:
Saeed is right, don’t overthink it.

Usually the PH isn’t going to let you take a frontal or a rearward presentation shot.

Aim about a third up from the bottom of the chest at the offside front leg and generally they fall over fast.

My Phs have given up on me.

They put the sticks up, and leave the rest to me.

I have shot buffalo from every conceivable angle.

Never had a problem.

On the other hand . . .

I have had the utmost confidence in a shot, been as sure as sunrise in the morning.

And missed completely.

Baffling.

What ever system you use, the more you are acquainted with the anatomy of the various animals the confidence you will have.

Assuming not broadside, break a shoulder, either the on shoulder or the off and you're good. With a bow, don't try the on shoulder, but the off shoulder works just as well.

Saeed,
You would by now have a wealth of knowledge in that head of yours, maybe its time for a book, and then a chapter on shot placement with illustrations ofcourse, just an idea.

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Imagine a line passing through the chest connecting the shoulders.

Aim to break it from any angle.

Works every time, never failed.

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Originally posted by Shukaree:
Saeed,
You would by now have a wealth of knowledge in that head of yours, maybe its time for a book, and then a chapter on shot placement with illustrations ofcourse, just an idea.

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Imagine a line passing through the chest connecting the shoulders.

Aim to break it from any angle.

Works every time, never failed.

There are a number of books on this subject, some are relevant and others are totally useless, as I mentioned about the PAYLINE.

It really does not require a PHD in anatomy to know that to kill an animal one has to stop major functions.

And the chest is where all it happens.

Put your bullet through there, and you will have your chops for dinner.

Very well said. Your videos illustrate what works. You know what works.

I have also shot many animals around the world straight on in the chest and all of them have died. A few years ago I shot a giraffe in Zimbabwe straight on and he dropped like a ton of bricks. The trackers and skinners could not get over it. Frontal shots are indeed deadly if you know what you're doing.

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Originally posted by Use Enough Gun:
I have also shot many animals around the world straight on in the chest and all of them have died. A few years ago I shot a giraffe in Zimbabwe straight on and he dropped like a ton of bricks. The trackers and skinners could not get over it. Frontal shots are indeed deadly if you know what you're doing.

Yep it called the engine room

Lane,

My favorite shot on buffalo is quartering to. Hit them on the point of the lead shoulder and you're good. Quartering away is good if they are showing you their right side. Aim for the off shoulder.
Quartering away showing their left side, watch the rumen. It will soak up lead. But Doctori wrote the book. Buy it.

Hell, Lane, you don't need the book that was directed to other comments. You're a vet. You understand the rumen. But from experience, the rumen can be a problem.

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Originally posted by lavaca:
Lane,

My favorite shot on buffalo is quartering to. Hit them on the point of the lead shoulder and you're good. Quartering away is good if they are showing you their right side. Aim for the off shoulder.
Quartering away showing their left side, watch the rumen. It will soak up lead. But Doctori wrote the book. Buy it.

I have shot them from every conceivable angle.

As long as the bullet gets to the chest, no drama!

Not sure how much change has been made to the book.

I did have the original one, but seems to have developed legs and gone off.

Just ordered the second edition from Amazon.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Imagine a line passing through the chest connecting the shoulders.

Aim to break it from any angle.

Works every time, never failed.

What are you calling the “shoulders”…the actual shoulder joint? Or, the generalized shoulder region…kind of the center of the forequarter?

The actual shoulder joint (what I envision when someone says shoulder) is pretty far forward for this theory on quartering towards shots.

Could you put a pick up with a dot on what you call a shoulder aim-point?

I have asked this a hundred times. On a true board side animal, a shot into the top of the heart is not the shoulder. The shoulder blade is higher and more forward. That is what I consider the “shoulder shot.” Now, with big cartridges on lesser game, I have broken the shoulder blade even when not hitting the shoulder blade (scapula).

Would some one kindly explain why the upper heart shot is called the “shoulder” on a broadside animal. There is a bone coming from chest the foreleg. That bone would cover some of the heart of the leg is pulled back.

I have Not shot a Buffalo. However, I have shot Elk to squirrels, have both editions of The Perfect Shot, and a collection of little anatomy books from my youth, the heart shot is basically at the top of the rear line of the foreleg.

One third of the way up severs the main arteries (I think they are called arteries) of the heart, damaged the head, and penetrates the lower lung lobes. This is considered by Dr. Robinson the best of all worlds shot with a good margin for error.

However, this is still not a shoulder shot. I love the shoulder shot (being the scapula) there is a bunch of nerves anchored to the scapula that when struck turn off. The scapula covers the spine get through scapula and sever the cervical spine. The scapula covers the lungs (at least the rest 1/4) and you send bone shrapnel through the chest cavity.

Again, on lessor game with big cartridges if you are off, you have a high double lung (generally not preferred over the lower double lung) and can still break the scapula and disrupt those nerves do anchored.

The shoulder blade/scapula shot is not recommended by Dr. Robinson on Buffalo. He acknowledges it, and dismisses it for novice, sport hunters taking on Buffalo.

In conclusion, I have found the shoulder blade (scapula) to be a wonderful shot on my limited experience on game up to 500 pounds. I do not understand why folks call the heart shot or the top of heart and lower double lung shot a shoulder shot. The shoulder blade shot is not recommended by Dr. Robinson for novice sport hunters.

Would someone explain why the heart shot is called a shoulder shot when on a true Buffalo no bone covers the target area?

Again, there is a bone from the bottom of the scapula that connects to the leg that might cover the top of the heart, lower lungs if the foreleg is drawn rearward.

One is not shooting through shoulder bone on a broadside Buffalo shot in the middle of the lungs nor the heart. Whether you have shot 200 Buffalo or none.

If someone could kindly tell me why this is called the shoulder shot?

If the foreleg or bone is broken on a true broadside shot into heart or lung it is done so by brute force.

Looking broadside…the heart in Buffalo resides in the space between a line through the shoulder jt proper and a line through the elbow jt. The cranial (forward) edge of the heart along the caudal (back) edge of the humerus.

Forget the heart.

Aim for the middle of the chest.

That is it.

Far too many people shoot too low anyway.

Another misconception is “break bones”!

Put the bullet through the chest, and it will cause serious damage.

I agree with your concept Saeed and do almost exactly the same.

I use a vertical line through the back the leg for my y-axis and a horizontal line through the shoulder joint proper as my x-axis to get my broadside spot. Then I imagine a broomstick through those spots on each side for quartering shots.

That is why I asked the question above.

The center of the chest is well caudal (rearward) to the shoulder joint proper and caudo-ventral (just below back edge) the shoulder blade.

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Looking broadside…the heart in Buffalo resides in the space between a line through the shoulder jt proper and a line through the elbow jt. The cranial (forward) edge of the heart along the caudal (back) edge of the humerus.

I wish I could post pictures. The heart/lung shot, indeed the heart proper is not covered by any bone in Dr. Robinson’s work. One would have to shoot quarrying away or questing to to break bone. The scapula would be too high.

I agree w Saeed on this one. Structurail bone may break, but not because you shot into them in a broadside Buffalo with De. Robinson’s perfect shot. That is being down with force which may speak to using 458 lot and larger cartridges.

Folks are shooting into the chest, through muscle and ribs on the “shoulder” appearing to the eye, but not through “shoulder bones” with the board-side shots advocated by Dr. Robertson in the Perfect Shot.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Looking broadside…the heart in Buffalo resides in the space between a line through the shoulder jt proper and a line through the elbow jt. The cranial (forward) edge of the heart along the caudal (back) edge of the humerus.

I wish I could post pictures. The heart/lung shot, indeed the heart proper is not covered by any bone in Dr. Robinson’s work. One would have to shoot quarrying away or questing to to break bone. The scapula would be too high.

I agree w Saeed on this one. Structurail bone may break, but not because you shot into them in a broadside Buffalo with De. Robinson’s perfect shot. That is being down with force which may speak to using 458 lot and larger cartridges.

Folks are shooting into the chest, through muscle and ribs on the “shoulder” appearing to the eye, but not through “shoulder bones” with the board-side shots advocated by Dr. Robertson in the Perfect Shot.

This^^^is an accurate statement.

And…exactly as I described in my description.

https://postimg.cc/K4RFG3Rj


Here is the Perfect Shot true broadside. The perfect shot as described is center of the heart 1/3 up the rear line of the foreleg severing the arteries and penetrating the lower lung lobes.

No “shoulder bones” nor any structural bones are being struck.

I was not disputing Dr. Easter just reading it out and talking it out. The connection was made as I articulated it with what Saeed said while I looked at the image.

As you said earlier, “General shoulder region as an aiming point.”

I do not dispute folks are breaking bone for those reading. I am disputing the broadside buffalo heart/lung shot is a shot that will primarily break structural bone. That is not what the shit us aiming to do. To do that, one has to target the scapula/spine, or the spine in the neck, or on a broadside shot shoot more forward which brings one off the vitals.


Breaking structural bone with the broadside shot is an exercise in what one hopes happens, and not what one is trying to accomplish. Like knocking out a missed brain shot on an elephant.

The more force you bring to bear. The better your odds you have to accomplish in the game of chance.

Funny how your grandfather manages to put the game down with ease. Its a learning.

Hunting in certain areas of Africa, one hardly ever gets the classic broadside shot at a standing animal.

Most of the times the animal would either be standing in some bush where it is difficult to see all his body, or he is moving.

Use a decent bullet, that will penetrate far enough from any angle to get to the vitals.

Last year, my last buffalo.

Driving along when we saw a very old bull running into long grass.

We ran after him.

He stopped.

Alan put the shooting sticks up.

I I looked and saw his head looking back at us.


I fired into the grass where I thought the junction of his neck and shoulder was.

Off he ran after the shot.

As he took off, I realized he was actually facing away, looking back at us.

Not as I had assumed looking at us facing at a slight angle.

He ran about 70-80 yards and dropped!

We walked up to him and I shot him again.

By bullet hit him in rear of one of his back legs.

Went in all the way, and lodged in the front of his chest!

Everyone was laughing.

This one was hit in the RIGHT rear leg.

A few days ear, I hit mother one in the LEFT rear leg.

Similar performance!

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Hunting in certain areas of Africa, one hardly ever gets the classic broadside shot at a standing animal.

Most of the times the animal would either be standing in some bush where it is difficult to see all his body, or he is moving.

Use a decent bullet, that will penetrate far enough from any angle to get to the vitals.

Last year, my last buffalo.

Driving along when we saw a very old bull running into long grass.

We ran after him.

He stopped.

Alan put the shooting sticks up.

I I looked and saw his head looking back at us.


I fired into the grass where I thought the junction of his neck and shoulder was.

Off he ran after the shot.

As he took off, I realized he was actually facing away, looking back at us.

Not as I had assumed looking at us facing at a slight angle.

He ran about 70-80 yards and dropped!

We walked up to him and I shot him again.

By bullet hit him in rear of one of his back legs.

Went in all the way, and lodged in the front of his chest!

Everyone was laughing.

This one was hit in the RIGHT rear leg.

A few days ear, I hit mother one in the LEFT rear leg.

Similar performance!

quartering shots are devastating with the right bullet. The problems I have had are with inexperienced hunts who do not understand the anatomy and it is sometimes difficult to explain when the pressure is on