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Has anyone used Bounce fabric softener sheets as an insect repellent? If so was it effective? | ||
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They will make you very smelly. I spray my clothes with permetherin, ...I say that hunters go into Paradise when they die, and live in this world more joyfully than any other men. -Edward, duke of York ". . . when a man has shot an elephant his life is full." ~John Alfred Jordan "The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance." Cicero - 55 BC "The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities." - Ayn Rand Cogito ergo venor- KPete “It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own self-interest. We address ourselves, not to their humanity but to their self-love, and never talk to them of our own necessities but of their advantages.” ― Adam Smith - “Wealth of Nations” | |||
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Why do folks insist on trying to find some super secret insect repellent instead of just using what works, namely netting at night, sustained release DEET, and permethrin treated clothing ?  Hunting: Exercising dominion over creation at 2800 fps. | |||
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a lot of the tradtional insect repellants are like cocktails for tsetse flies and so i am all ears if i think someone can find a new repellant , we get used to them but with some people it can have a very negative effect on their trip ! "The greatest threat to our wildlife is the thought that someone else will save it” www.facebook.com/ivancartersafrica www.ivancarterwca.org www.ivancarter.com ivan@ivancarter.com | |||
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I've said this many, many times, but for your health, I highly recommend Coulston's Duranon Permanone spray for your boots and clothes. It KILLS ticks, chiggers, mosquito's and any other crawler that makes contact with your clothing. Accept no substitute, Coulston's is the best I've used for years and I've tried many. Sawyer is #2 IMHO. Cabela's and small archery/gun shops can order Coulston's. About $6 per can. I stick one in my boots enroute to Africa. By the time I see a tick 4-5 inches above my knee, he's already dying. Client's that follow my pre-hunt strategy have yet to contract any insect born disease. Those that ignore...tick fever on occasion. It is ONLY for clothing and will last about two weeks (their claim) even through washing. Personally, I only have my pants washed when needed and respray after a wash. One can will last 14-21 days. Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333 Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com NRA Benefactor DSC Professional Member SCI Member RMEF Life Member NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor NAHC Life Member Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt: http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262 Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142 Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007 http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007 16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more: http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409 Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311 Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941 10 days in the Stormberg Mountains http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322 Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232 "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running...... "If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you." | |||
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agree on Coulston's. I never go out with out my Thermacell unit. I havent hunted in Africa but next year when I do go ill take it for sure!! | |||
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Can you take the butane bottles on a plane? Fabric softener sheets work well for taking DEAD lovebugs off a vehicle, don't know about any effect on live bugs. | |||
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Bounce drier sheets don't work. Tried 'em last week in Alaska and they had zero effect. "....but to protest against all hunting of game is a sign of softness of head, not of soundness of heart." Theodore Roosevelt | |||
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Can you take butane bottles on a commercial airplane? NO !! Avon Skin So Soft has worked for me in 5 African Countries, South America, Canada and througout the USA. Has worked on ALL bugs encountered in all of the above. Doesn't stain or ruin your skin and equipment, keeps your skin soft, last for a long time, Mine also has a little sun block in it, so just another plus. Larry Sellers SCI Life Member
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I live in northern Alberta and quite a few of my workers would wrap a bounce sheet around the headband of their hardhat. I tried it and it works good. Saves putting repellent on your face and neck but you still need to spray your hands and arms. The best part of it is that you don't have repellent running in your eyes and mouth when you're sweating. | |||
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Tiger bomb works on bee's, sweat bee's and Tsetse flies. | |||
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Not to dispute your personal experience, but scientific studies of SSS show it lasts only about 30 minutes and is 10 times less effective than 12.5% DEET. Botanicals are far inferior to DEET in most cases. The common theme for most botanicals is the oily layer they initially provide provides most of the protection, and when that is gone, so is the protection. Sad for those allergic to it, but DEET is so cheap and effective, the research for a better insect repellent is not all that aggressive from what I have read. But then again, what company is going to spill the beans about their new repellent before it goes to market. Hunting: Exercising dominion over creation at 2800 fps. | |||
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There is a scientific article in the New England Journal of Medicine Volume 347:13-18 July 4, 2002 Comparative Efficacy of Insect Repellents against Mosquito Bites Mark S. Fradin, M.D., and John F. Day, Ph.D. that substantiates Duckear's comments and discusses the overwhelming safety of DEET in spite of its critics. I would think that a combination of Permethrin on ones clothing and DEET as needed on exposed skin, would be about as good as its going to get. by Pollack, R. J. Letters Add to Personal Archive Add to Citation Manager Notify a Friend E-mail When Cited PubMed Citation | |||
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Sorry, somehow I did not delete enough of the garbage on my above post. | |||
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I have followed L. David Keith's reccomended repellants and they have sorked for me in Austrailia, Africa, Swamps of Southern USA, and in the woods deer hunting. Hunting wild pigs in Texas, the pretreating of your clothes is a necesity if you don't want ticks all over you. We even shower with dog, flea and tick shampoo to get rid of the "Chiggers"!!!!!!! Another side note is L. David told me to take a Super Vitamin B complex to reduce the mosquito attraction. Before I was like a magnet,,, now I seldom ever get a mosquito bite. Not sure why it works but when your outfitter tells you to do something to prepare for a hunt and you ignore their advise,, you deserve what you get. you can make more money, you can not make more time | |||
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I don't know anything about Bounce but AFA "chiggers" or redbugs go, it is normally quite easy to take care of them if exposed. First of all, treating your clothes to about knee level is the first line of defense. I've used Raid or other permethrin based insecticides simply sprayed on the outside with very positive results. BUT if you are exposed, forgot to spray, crawled under a fence, etc (and exposure to red bugs is USUALLY around some type of water source, ponds, ditches, etc), just pay attention and when you get that kind of "crawly" feeling, which is the first indication that red bugs are making a new home in your skin, simply wipe the area down with rubbing alcohol (you could use whiskey but it would be a waste, save that for snake bites) and, voila, no more red bugs. If you do this in the first few hours, you won't have any "bites", it will still kill them after that but the dreaded itchy bites will probably still appear. You can also take a bath in a weak bleach solution but I prefer showers and use rubbing alcohol myself. xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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The problem I have always had with Deet products is it eats the finish off of very expensive binocs, cameras, rangefinders etc. It will also soften the finish on rifle stocks and other finished wood products. If the stuff eats things up like this, no way will I ever put it on my skin. Usually apply SSS no more than twice during a 10 hour day outdoors, no problem with it diminishing it's effectiveness for me. Guess it's more affective on me than the lab findings? Oh well. Larry Sellers SCI Life Member
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I have heard about Avon Skin So Soft for years, but I have always stuck with Deet (or Off in the US) because they are so easy to find. However, I am impressed by Larry's positive experience. I imagine that SSS has a fairly mild odor, too. Norman Solberg International lawyer back in the US after 25 years and, having met a few of the bad guys and governments here and around the world, now focusing on private trusts that protect wealth from them. NRA Life Member for 50 years, NRA Endowment Member from 2014, NRA Patron from 2016. | |||
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'Exofficio' has a shirt that has Permithrin but it's a new insecticide modification that actually bonds to the cotton fiber. Doesn't wash out . | |||
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Begging your pardon, sir, but did mean "Tiger Balm"? It's quite popular here in the Philippines as treatment for various kinds of insect bites. Jess | |||
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Fellas after two 21 day safaris in the Selous melting plastic on my hearing aides, I have found something much better. I use the AVON towelettes that have SSS and picardin bug repellant You do not feel greased up. This kept the damn tsetses at bay all day. Deet used to work for 2 hours and they would walk thru it. Avon also has a sun screen in the picardin and SSS available. My professional bought 6 bottles 2 years ago, the best he has ever used. Mike | |||
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These threads always make me wonder at the level of intelligence among hunters. As has been stated above, there is NO scientific evidence that the SSS products work, period. On the other hand, extensive scientific control studies show that Deet works better than anything. All the affirmations of SSS is simply so much BS based solely upon undocumented beliefs, whether from hunters, outfitters or PHs; anecdotal only. Permethrin on clothing and deet on skin is what works better than any other products to protect from insects. When considering the seriousness of insect borne disease (malaria, lyme disease, tick fever, etc.), to advise anyone otherwise is totally irresponsible, IMO. But don't take my word for it, instead do some internet research on your own and see what you discover, based upon control study testing. Believe whatever you want, but be cautious about what you recommend for other peoples health. Mike ______________ DSC DRSS (again) SCI Life NRA Life Sables Life Mzuri IPHA "To be a Marine is enough." | |||
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