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I was a speaker on Predator Management several years ago at a Texas Parks & Wildlife Conference and I suggested to the audience that the hunting community stop using the verb "harvest" instead of kill because we were not recovering corn or lettuce from the field. A friend of mine suggested the same for substituting "clay sports" for a shooting club, as if pottery were being taught.

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Originally posted by Doubless:
I see it a bit differently... all game animals are a renewable resource nowadays, managed expressly as that. In that light, aren't we harvesting a renewable resource, just like a crop?

FWIW, TP&W refers to the "deer harvest" in their yearly report. Or at least they used to...

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Originally posted by ted thorn:

Harvest instead of kill.......more PC

Chickens are a renewable resource and are not harvested at the local Tyson plant

Nope....own up to it....I sure do

We hunters kill animals.....it's that simple

We harvest crops

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Originally posted by MJines:
Earnest, from my perspective I am fine with someone concluding that, for example, in your case, given your charming good looks that you would prefer not to post pictures with you in them. On the flip side, obviously I am fine with someone that choses to post an unaltered photo with them in it. I guess what I find sad or odd is the posting of altered, masked, blurred out photos. Just my opinion, but perhaps not posting a photo with the person in it in that instance would be preferable to posting something that looks like it should be featured on the 10:00 pm news.

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Originally posted by MJines:
The future of hunt report photos on AR? I hope not.

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Originally posted by BuffHunter63:
As a simple courtesy, I always block out the faces of people before posting pics on the internet, unless I have their express permission to do so.

With digital editing capabilities an innocent person's face can appear on all types of unsavory photos. Just a fact of life in the digital age.

BH63

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Originally posted by cal pappas:

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Originally posted by BuffHunter63:
As a simple courtesy, I always block out the faces of people before posting pics on the internet, unless I have their express permission to do so.

With digital editing capabilities an innocent person's face can appear on all types of unsavory photos. Just a fact of life in the digital age.

BH63

How true. My deepest fear is my face being photoshopped into a pic of Biebs and a Blaser.
Cal

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by cal pappas:

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Originally posted by BuffHunter63:
As a simple courtesy, I always block out the faces of people before posting pics on the internet, unless I have their express permission to do so.

With digital editing capabilities an innocent person's face can appear on all types of unsavory photos. Just a fact of life in the digital age.

BH63

How true. My deepest fear is my face being photoshopped into a pic of Biebs and a Blaser.
Cal

Would improve your looks or his?

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Trouble is many people still believe that they can hide on the Internet.

You cannot.

If you have ANY presence on the Net, anyone with some time can find you.

....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1
DRSS Charter member
"If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982

Hands of Old Elmer Keith

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by cal pappas:

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Originally posted by BuffHunter63:
As a simple courtesy, I always block out the faces of people before posting pics on the internet, unless I have their express permission to do so.

With digital editing capabilities an innocent person's face can appear on all types of unsavory photos. Just a fact of life in the digital age.

BH63

How true. My deepest fear is my face being photoshopped into a pic of Biebs and a Blaser.
Cal

Would improve your looks or his?

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Originally posted by Beretta682E:

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by cal pappas:

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Originally posted by BuffHunter63:
As a simple courtesy, I always block out the faces of people before posting pics on the internet, unless I have their express permission to do so.

With digital editing capabilities an innocent person's face can appear on all types of unsavory photos. Just a fact of life in the digital age.

BH63

How true. My deepest fear is my face being photoshopped into a pic of Biebs and a Blaser.
Cal

Would improve your looks or his?

Biebs has told me Robert Redford looks like him.

Mike

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Originally posted by MJines:
Hunting television shows . . . showcase hunting. Hunting magazines . . . showcase hunting. Hunting DVDs . . . showcase hunting. Hunting books . . . showcase hunting. Hunting websites and forums . . . showcase hunting. A suggestion to those that do not like hunting, do not watch hunting television shows, read hunting books and magazines, watch hunting DVDs . . . or frequent hunting websites. Material difference in my mind from a narrow subject matter forum like AR and a broad social media platform like Facebook or Twitter.

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:
Curious as to what the end game is here?

What is the goal? Is it purely to inflame and antagonize the anti-hunting movement?

You guys with the "in your face:" mentality as to posting pictures on FB and even here on AR, can you answer me as to why. Is it ego?

It surely has nothing to do with a conservation thru hunting strategy. Your obtuse posting has, and is costing all of us and our heirs. The rich hunting and shooting sports heritage of America is at stake here.

I Just don't understand how you don't get it, YOU are giving our opposition the very information to bludgeon us with.

Again, I believe AR should be a pay site. The anti's are also cheap and won't pay. At that point, we have closed the bedroom door and we can share our hunts with one another, without worry. Saeed can then donate 100% of the funding from the AR membership dues to an annual conservation cause.

Anyone whom cares to pigeon-hole my stance as withdrawing from the battle simply doesn't completely understand who it is we are fighting.

Discuss,

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

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Originally posted by MJines:
Hunting television shows . . . showcase hunting. Hunting magazines . . . showcase hunting. Hunting DVDs . . . showcase hunting. Hunting books . . . showcase hunting. Hunting websites and forums . . . showcase hunting. A suggestion to those that do not like hunting, do not watch hunting television shows, read hunting books and magazines, watch hunting DVDs . . . or frequent hunting websites. Material difference in my mind from a narrow subject matter forum like AR and a broad social media platform like Facebook or Twitter.

Mike, we agree on the narrow point you're making. The problem is, they aren't tuning in or logging on to watch it to learn or even out of curiosity.

They are watching it to capture the emotion they need, to sell their anti hunting message. It is wrapped up in slick campaigns as to saving iconic creatures from "annihilation."

If I don't like ESPN or ABC or the lifetime network, I simply turn it off. They see our sport as immoral, un-athical and perhaps even illegal. In their world view, we are simply poachers and many of them wish us death. I've seen the same vitriol you have.

Plain and simple, they despise our very existence.

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Originally posted by Frostbit:

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

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Originally posted by MJines:
Hunting television shows . . . showcase hunting. Hunting magazines . . . showcase hunting. Hunting DVDs . . . showcase hunting. Hunting books . . . showcase hunting. Hunting websites and forums . . . showcase hunting. A suggestion to those that do not like hunting, do not watch hunting television shows, read hunting books and magazines, watch hunting DVDs . . . or frequent hunting websites. Material difference in my mind from a narrow subject matter forum like AR and a broad social media platform like Facebook or Twitter.

Mike, we agree on the narrow point you're making. The problem is, they aren't tuning in or logging on to watch it to learn or even out of curiosity.

They are watching it to capture the emotion they need, to sell their anti hunting message. It is wrapped up in slick campaigns as to saving iconic creatures from "annihilation."

If I don't like ESPN or ABC or the lifetime network, I simply turn it off. They see our sport as immoral, un-athical and perhaps even illegal. In their world view, we are simply poachers and many of them wish us death. I've seen the same vitriol you have.

Plain and simple, they despise our very existence.

Hi Steve,

Ever share pictures of your collector cars or race boats? How about bicycles? I have a beautiful all original hand made Italian Tomasso with full super record groupo. If I posted a picture of it on a bicycling website would it be "ego" making me do it or just a drive to share pictures of something like minded folks might find cool.

I put pics of my 12V Gen II Cummins down in the "classic car" forum below. Enjoy!! I've got enough ego to share.

Cheers
Jim

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Originally posted by crbutler:
Steve,

You saw my response to this thread on the hunting reports forum, and even commented favorably.

Now, I get plenty of comments about my hunting from my friends and acquaintances in real life. Having a few plains game heads in my office does tend to start the conversation on that.

I tend to look at it as offering a view to interested persons of something I enjoy doing and hopefully they will enjoy it as well. I do note that my reports have evolved a bit to add some local color and also I have been trying to add a bit of conservation to them.

I have always enjoyed writing, albeit in school I did not like writing papers because the assigned topics were usually incredibly boring to me.

From that point (indulging in what I enjoy, writing which I enjoy, and getting some positive feedback- which is nice) I would have to say it does have some ego involved, although I am not a psychiatrist or believe the business that pretty much everything is done for ego...

I used to put some stuff on facebook and actually got complained to management about (elephant hunt photo for avatar) which I basically told them that I don't need them, its a legal activity, and if they wanted to remove the photo of me with the elephant, then remove my entire account. They found that I was OK.- that to show I will get in their face at times.

From my perspective, I try to be educational, and not too confrontational in my posting, but not apologetic. I figure if they go looking for it, they will find it. It may bite me on the ass someday, but frankly, after my first african hunt, I was out there and might as well be hung for an elephant hunter as a buffalo hunter or whatever.

If we allow ourselves to be pushed further underground, we will be tacitly admitting that we are not proud of what we do and that there is something vaguely wrong with us.

I am not going to go out and confront folks over it and force them to see a bloody rhino picture, but I will attempt to share (tastefully) my hunting adventures with like minded folks and friends, and if that offends the sensibilities of the overly sensitive, I guess I will have to listen to them whine if they want to confront me, and then politely tell them how they are wrong.

If they threaten me, I will prosecute to the fullest extent under the law, and also point out how awfully hypocritical they are, as they usually are rankly so.

I know you have hunted a lot. I wish you would do some hunt reports for all to see, it would make interesting reading- and I am sure you could use a good ego feeding every now and then...

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Originally posted by MJines:
While I can see the value in avoiding the so-called "mainstream" social media outlets like Facebook and Twitter with hunting-related content, I do not agree that the only solution is to make hunting completely opaque to the general public. We need to be prudent and tasteful in messaging that the public has access to; however, we do not, in my view, need to take the sport underground.

....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1
DRSS Charter member
"If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982

Hands of Old Elmer Keith