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I traveled to and worked in Africa from '87 until '98. What I saw during several of those years was enough to gag a maggot.

I only did my first hunt in 2005. It was a revelation to me to discover that one could actually enjoy himself there, and I followed up that RSA PG hunt with two buff hunts.

I've probably done my last hunt there, retirement income being what it is, but I would like to go back.

Hunting buff is one of the most gratifying experiences I've ever had.

But if I don't return, I'll live with it.

My only regret is that I didn't start hunting there earlier when I could ride international carriers for free, back during the early and middle 90's, when safaris were a lot cheaper.

I have an ex-hunting buddy who spends a fortune hunting Saskatchewan whitetail and Mexican mulies every year. He did a black bear float trip to Alaska. He went to Africa once, a PG trip to Zim with a mutual friend.

I have repeatedly told him how rewarding a DG hunt is, but, truth be told, he just lacks the intestinal fortitude to take on old blackie on his own turf.

He'd rather sit in a tree stand in minus twenty F waiting for a big Canadian buck to walk out, than stalk buff in the thorn.

And I think he is so far out of his comfort zone, with all those black faces all around, the strange customs, the totally different experience that is Africa, that he will never return. Like some have said, different strokes.

I've hunted Saskatchewan twice and Manitoba once, and I absolutely love it because of the beauty of the places and the quality of the animals, but IMHO, nothing much in the hunting world compares to stalking a dugga boy in thick thorn in Kitiangare over dry leaves, with the ninjas all around you, carefully watching every step, knowing you can get blindsided at any moment, and making a good shot, bringing the experience to a very satisfying conclusion. In the world of hunting, it just doesn't get any better than that. For me, anyway.

I have an intense love/hate relationship with Africa that will never be fully reconciled. But if I got lucky and made a pile of cash, I know where I would spend a batch of it. I'd be on the phone to Wendell the second the check cleared.


Very well said sir.


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And I think he is so far out of his comfort zone, with all those black faces all around, the strange customs, the totally different experience that is Africa, that he will never return. Like some have said, different strokes.


I love Africa and go every opportunity I get!!! But...I will have to say...being under the control of blacks and surrounded by 1000's of blacks at times that all look at you like they were seeing you dead and robbed is unsettling to me.


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So I've been thinking about this for a few days now and I started a similar thread on another forum that isn't as "Africa-centric".

Are there any members here, or does anyone know of someone, who has NO desire to hunt Africa (provided they are physically able)? Even physical handicaps are less of an excuse these days since there are quite a few outfitters who are able and willing to accommodate those hunters who have physical ailments. If the answer to either of the above questions is "Yes", then why?

To me, Africa is the ultimate hunting destination. Over time though, I have met people (who are die-hard hunters) that have absolutely zero desire to travel to Africa, much less try and hunt there. When questioned as to why not, I've received a lot of the standard, canned responses - "It's too expensive", "It's too dangerous ", "It's so far away", yada, yada, yada.

This thread is not meant to be a criticism or a commentary on those who do not wish to hunt Africa. Certainly there are people to whom Africa holds no appeal. I am simply interested in hearing the reasons as to "WHY".


An equally valid question is why do you hold Africa as the ultimate destination or ultimate hunt?

And your reasons will fall on the deaf ears of those who don't share your passion.

Why do people collect stamps?

I haven't a clue.

Folks are just wired different.


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And I think he is so far out of his comfort zone, with all those black faces all around, the strange customs, the totally different experience that is Africa, that he will never return. Like some have said, different strokes.


I love Africa and go every opportunity I get!!! But...I will have to say...being under the control of blacks and surrounded by 1000's of blacks at times that all look at you like they were seeing you dead and robbed is unsettling to me.


I presume you are referring to Buffalo?


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I presume you are referring to Buffalo?


lol Nope!


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And I think he is so far out of his comfort zone, with all those black faces all around, the strange customs, the totally different experience that is Africa, that he will never return. Like some have said, different strokes.


I love Africa and go every opportunity I get!!! But...I will have to say...being under the control of blacks and surrounded by 1000's of blacks at times that all look at you like they were seeing you dead and robbed is unsettling to me.


Lane, I enjoy reading you posts much of the time but I find this one unsettling.
 
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Lane, I enjoy reading you posts much of the time but I find this one unsettling.


I am very sory Milo...but...it does not change how I feel. Smiler Just being honest...more than I can say for some. coffee


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It shames me to say this - I had shot a quite respectable 300+lbs black bear in Ontario. I had the bear head mounted and it was delivered to my office. The women in the office exclaimed how "cute" the bear was -and what an awful guy I was to shoot such a "cute" critter. I was also asked by a nice woman (otherwise) whether I would pick on some animal that could fight back. The comments bothered me (at 62 years of age and having hunted since I was 8) I decided to try to face a DG -and did so - buff at 35 yards turning to face me - Isn't facing DG really about that rather than any idea of a "trophy"? (P.S.- I shot my buff without the PH having to fire one shot)
 
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I have a very close friend who has hunted all over North America for moose, elk, bear, caribou, pronghorn, whitetails, etc. We duck hunt together a lot and he is always wanting me to go on a big game hunt with him.

When I decided I was going to take the plunge and go to Africa I asked him to go a long. His reply was "You are a fool and will get your head lopped off with a machette by some crazy canabal."

I told him he watched too many Tarzan movies and should really think before he believes everything he sees on the 6 o'clock news. PURE IGNORANCE.

A mutual friend just got back from RSA and had a great time. When we all got together, I asked if he saw any "canabals with machettes?" After laughing, he replied, "no, why?" and I said "oh, just saw it on a Tarzan movie once and they were talking about Africa on the news last night." That was follow up with silence.....
 
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Up until a few yrs ago, I had a friend that never ever thought of hunting Africa "Just not intersted in it" was his reply. He ended up heading over to SA on a group hunt and now he is HOOKED!

I believe the folks I talk to about DC have never put much thought into it. But once they get reading about it, perusing African hunting posts etc. They start to feel the lore & romance that may be involved with hunting there.

I was one of those guys up until about 4 yrs ago. I have to admit, in the yrs prior to my AR life, I never thought of it or Big-bores at all.....now most my dreams of hunting far off, exotic animlas revolve around Africa, and my shooting thoughts usually involve +375 cal. cartridges.

I have yet to visit this mystical land, but I know when I do I will have sparked something in me, that will be ir-reversible.


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