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About time the west do something collectively against this cancer that has spread to Africa..? https://www.bloomberg.com/news...arko-mozambique-site | ||
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Islamic extremism thrives in areas with an abundance of young, uneducated young men with little to no direction in life. They sell them a false promise and give them false direction. Africa has all the above in vast quantity. | |||
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I would imagine the petroleum companies will employ private contractors to provide security. Future attacks could be met with impressive defensive firepower. With the investment they’re bringing to Moz, I would expect they’d be given fairly free reign. | |||
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An organization like "Executive Outcomes" could handle the problem I would imagine. | |||
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Not sure "the West", such as it may be, is a solution to the world's ills. This is an in-house problem, and as has been pointed out, PMCs are probably the solution.
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The West has blood on their hands! If it was not for the West sticking their noses into other countries’ business when these countries were dealing with these animals, it would never has come to this. They kept screaming HUMAN RIGHTS! How the hell can anyone support the human rights of those whose sole purpose in life is to take yours away! | |||
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Unfortunately, there's a lot of truth to this..it takes an "iron fist" to deal with these types of people and the West ( or at least the Liberals) don't have the stomach for it. | |||
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Ive spent a lot of time in that corner of the world, even before this nonsense it was a rough and raw place. That said, incredibly beautiful and wild. ----------------------------------------- "I went to the woods because I wished to live deliberately, to front only the essential facts of life, and see if I could not learn what it had to teach, and not, when I came to die, discover that I had not lived. -Henry David Thoreau, Walden | |||
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The world was a better place when the sun never set on the British Empire. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Dr. Easter, I agree to a certain extent. Was Africa a failure? Some industrialists did bring it forward, but also took advantage of the land. Eventually after ceding control, it gradually went to crap. We are seeing some of this now decades after the change. Thank goodness for the operators keeping the safari industry alive. As politicians have asked “Are you better now than you were X years ago?” Everyone will have a different answer depending on who they believe and side with. Is the Arabian peninsula better off now, after our involvement in developing their natural resources? I don’t intend this to be a PF comment, but just food for thought. I meant to be DSC Member...bad typing skills. Marcus Cady DRSS | |||
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About everything peaks at some point in time. I believe civilization, as we know it, peaked sometime after WWII and prior to the millennium. The exact peak could be argued...but I firmly believe we are on the descending leg of the curve. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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100% Lane.. | |||
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Ledvm and Pondoro, Agreed. With the Burkina Faso post in this forum, where does the USA belong? We have a S show trying to take care of our own country. I’m happy we are on the right track now, but should we always look over our shoulder? I meant to be DSC Member...bad typing skills. Marcus Cady DRSS | |||
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That being said, I’d love to hunt in Africa again. Moz was an interesting destination. Angola, if they ever open fully would be great. Land mines do worry me, but I hope game has survived. I meant to be DSC Member...bad typing skills. Marcus Cady DRSS | |||
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What we fought against starting in the late 60's has now become reality. Today both China and Modern Russia have gained and are gaining ground in formerly contested battle ground states. Angola, Zimbabwe, Mozambique, Zambia ! Angola officially hosted the last Cold war Battle in the form of the Famous Battle of Cuito Cuanavale which was fought between August 1987 and March 1988. Many of us were participants in Operation Modular, Hooper, Packer and Displace. What was important to US strategic interests during the cold war fell away with the fall of the Berlin wall and subsequently keeping China and Russia out of Africa was no longer important. The Angolan war was a direct consequence of the US losing a foothold in Southern Africa when they kicked out of Zaire. Rhodesia was sold down the creek by South Africa in a deal for short lived South African preservation. With the USA no longer having a interest in Southern Africa Russia and China have simply stepped into the void ! | |||
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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The problem with the USA today getting involved in any conflict of length is the division within our own country. One party may be in power and get it kicked off to a good start only to loose the next election and have the whole process discontinued. It takes long-term continuity to make these things work and for a while...the USA cannot provide that...thus we certainly shouldn't be the chief in charge of any such conflict. I am sad to write this post. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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let them handle it then. | |||
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I agree completely. However, holes have been dug in the past. I wish we could take care of our own. CSpan shows much. I meant to be DSC Member...bad typing skills. Marcus Cady DRSS | |||
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The world was also a better place when the USA was more sane...like in the 1950's. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Refuted by all economic data. World has done pretty well since 1950s. https://ourworldindata.org/gra...mark?time=1953..2016 Mike | |||
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We cannot do this. Otherwise, Saeed would by on here crying that the US does not stand up to anyone. You see, like most of his "political" posts, everything the US does is wrong and nothing that his fellow Arab's do is incorrect. Simply a matter of fact..... | |||
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Most all of the parameters I measure good in the USA/world by...cannot be bought with money. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Great but it’s sounds like a anti hunter animal rights activist subjective view when one tries to explain to them hunting $$$ for killing animals is actually good for animals in the aggregate. Their response always is everything is not about money. I like to keep it simple and view everything on objective data. Mike | |||
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Were there wild black rhino in the Zambezi Valley, Selous, and many other places up through 1980? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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I am all for heavy american involvement in Africa.. | |||
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I am as well. I just wished we were poised to actually do some "real" good. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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On a lighter note, when I first glanced at the title on this, I thought it said "Sharknado Badly Hits Mozambique." | |||
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 ------------------------------- Some Pictures from Namibia Some Pictures from Zimbabwe An Elephant Story | |||
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I'm thinking that what really brings these young men with "no future" to fight for these extremist groups is the lie that promises them 72 virgins in heaven if the die in combat. If you are never going to have anything then that might be worth your life. | |||
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I am hunting Moz with Mokore in Nov. Just firmed up dates today. Mike | |||
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Lane, I can vouch for there being Black Rhinos in Charara, not very far from the Zambezi Valley, in 1986. We saw 5 different Black Rhinos, (including a cow, calf and bull together) during a 14 day safari in 1986. Saw lots of rhino tracks also, leading up from the Charara River, going back up into the Hills after drinking at night. I wonder if any are left? | |||
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Reminds me of an old joke: A jihadi blows himself up with a bomb vest and appears at the gates of Heaven. As he's standing there, Thomas Jefferson walks up to him and kicks him square in the balls. As soon as he recovers from that kick, George Washington walks up to him and hits him over the head with a giant club. When he starts crying and asking where are his 72 Virgins, God corrects him and says "That's 72 Virginians, and you've still got 70 more waiting their turn with you". Jesus saves, but Moses invests | |||
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Thank you sir. The answer to my question is yes, of course there were. Chewore had plenty in the early 80’s. My point was to give Beretta objective data of deterioration. He didn’t bite as hew knew where I was going. There were a slight few left in the Selous until 2003-06 era. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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