http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-28152477

Zimbabwe's President Robert Mugabe has called on the country's remaining white farmers to cede land to black people.

"We say no to whites owning our land and they should go," Mr Mugabe told his supporters at a rally.

The white farmers union said it was regrettable that racial tensions were flaring up again.

The president's critics say his policy of seizing most of Zimbabwe's white-owned farms caused the country's economic collapse from 2000-2009.

TIA

It is coming here too judging by rhetoric being spouted.
Of course when the buggers are starving, they will go begging to the UN and Nordic countries who will all cry "Oh shame, we must help the poor starving wretches." Screw them and remind them of their stupidity.

+1000 Starvation lends itself to New Leadership!

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Originally posted by Scriptus:
It is coming here too judging by rhetoric being spouted.
Of course when the buggers are starving, they will go begging to the UN and Nordic countries who will all cry "Oh shame, we must help the poor starving wretches." Screw them and remind them of their stupidity.

Further to the comment by Scriptus:

These are pictures of sugar/citrus/banana farm right next to Ngwenya Lodge in Komatipoort , South Africa .



It was sold to (taken by) the SA Government in 2007, in their land reform and re-allocation program whereby the riches are

distributed among the less advantaged, oppressed "indigenous" community i.e. black empowerment.



This is what it looked like when the previous white owners thought they were going to look at the development of their old homestead and farm.

They matched each scene (Aug 2011) with a 'before' photo (Jan 2007) and the last photograph was taken from a helicopter where the remains (shell) of

the house is visible.

I should add that I know these sugar farms very well indeed...... until the hand over, they were beautifully kept and a licence to print money.

Just before I left Africa and soon after the last hand overs, I took a last drive along that road and the fences were all torn down, the working irrigation systems & pumps had all been torn out and sold for scrap, the houses demolished and sold brick by brick and what was once immensely fertile land had been turned to desert that could barely support a family where before, each farm had provided employment and income for hundreds.

Steve,

Thanks for sharing the story and photos...UNBELIEVABLE and TERRIBLY SAD!!!
TRAGIC INDEED!!!

I just got an e-mail from a PH friend. His family is in difficult straights financially. His brother has passed away and although the family still lives on the farm they cannot hunt. They have been given quota but cannot get permits. Their sugar cane and stone quarry businesses have been taken. The first time I visited this ranch I was amazed the love they showed to their workers. A couple black orphaned children were being raised as their own. They had built local schools and medical facilities. Over 1000 people worked for them but now all gone! Tragic!

While I love going there, I leave depressed every time. It is unimaginable what these idiots have done to that country. The entire continent will crash & burn sooner or later.

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Originally posted by larryshores:
While I love going there, I leave depressed every time. It is unimaginable what these idiots have done to that country. The entire continent will crash & burn sooner or later.

Reaching the conclusion there might not be much of anything left in Zim after Uncle Bob and his gang are done.

Just sad and pathetic what they done to the country.

Mike

Does anyone see the similarity of the "take from the rich and give to the poor" concept between Zim and what our own (U.S) government is trying to do.

This should surprise no one. I'll be accused of being racist of course, by factions in Africa and certainly by our current corrupt Adminstration, BUT ... The folks to whom this land was entrusted are obviosly incompetant to accomplish much of anything.

This is a disgrace! When will the world wake up to this nonsense?

I also have seen, the riches to rags story line in SA & Zim.

I was taken and shown where a 4 or 5 star lodge was located the before pictures and i was able to walk through the destruction. What was not torn-out and sold was burned to the ground. We looked at 3 different farm locations and was provided a eye opening view of what was and what it is today.

I have some friends in Zimbabwe and they are on the front lines is the latest land grab. They had 51% taken a few years back and now they want the rest of the ranch.

I guess i will get the real story when i go visit later this year.

Why does this surprise anybody? I mean look at Detroit right here in the US.

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Originally posted by lavaca:
This should surprise no one. I'll be accused of being racist of course, by factions in Africa and certainly by our current corrupt Adminstration, BUT ... The folks to whom this land was entrusted are obviosly incompetant to accomplish much of anything.

I for one don't think it is racist to state the truth and the facts back it up. A drive from Harare to the Save backs up the destruction in a country's economic and social fabric.

I also don't take Uncle Bob to be a mad man - he may not no anything about economics or basic public policy. I don't think he has done anything for his people - he has been a blood sucking scumbag. But he has been an amazing politician and power gatherer - I don't for a second think he has a base anywhere near the amount of power and policies he has been able to implement in the last 30 years.

The man is evil but not mad or stupid.

Just my worthless 2 cents.

Mike

It is very simple they can not run A country period! There is not A single African country that not right away started on A down wards spiral the moment they took it over. And that my dear hunting friends is not being racist it is simply pointing out the obvious...

Any word from the guys in Zim about whether this is more talk than actions/
Scott

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Originally posted by sevenmagltd.:
Does anyone see the similarity of the "take from the rich and give to the poor" concept between Zim and what our own (U.S) government is trying to do.

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Originally posted by jorge:
Why does this surprise anybody? I mean look at Detroit right here in the US.

TBA

And just think about it when Bob dies, power struggle and shit will hit the fan.
I agree with the fact that African countries after so called independence can't run anything.
They just went back to their tribalism warfare and of course it's all whiteys fault in their eyes.
I heard that from their mouths.
It's kinda crazy.
Then again, look how long it took US from Revolutionary war to civil war to somewhat organized country? 100 + years ?
Time will tell about Africa, we will all be long dead by then and life will continue...

When I was in Zim last week there was talk of plans to bring back the Zim Dollar as soon as the end of July.
Go figure that nonsense !!!

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Originally posted by boarkiller:
And just think about it when Bob dies, power struggle and shit will hit the fan.
I agree with the fact that African countries after so called independence can't run anything.
They just went back to their tribalism warfare and of course it's all whiteys fault in their eyes.
I heard that from their mouths.
It's kinda crazy.
Then again, look how long it took US from Revolutionary war to civil war to somewhat organized country? 100 + years ?
Time will tell about Africa, we will all be long dead by then and life will continue...

A similar period to that of Liberia having been established. In that period, the US has built highways, railways, established a system of democracy, built a social system, massive industries & a space program etc.

Whilst Liberia has......... ummmmmmm maybe more or less mastered the wheel!

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Originally posted by shakari:

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Originally posted by boarkiller:
And just think about it when Bob dies, power struggle and shit will hit the fan.
I agree with the fact that African countries after so called independence can't run anything.
They just went back to their tribalism warfare and of course it's all whiteys fault in their eyes.
I heard that from their mouths.
It's kinda crazy.
Then again, look how long it took US from Revolutionary war to civil war to somewhat organized country? 100 + years ?
Time will tell about Africa, we will all be long dead by then and life will continue...

A similar period to that of Liberia having been established. In that period, the US has built highways, railways, established a system of democracy, built a social system, massive industries & a space program etc.

Whilst Liberia has......... ummmmmmm maybe more or less mastered the wheel!

Iss dat de ting dat not goes strate. Eehh? Riiitte?

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Originally posted by shakari:

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Originally posted by boarkiller:
And just think about it when Bob dies, power struggle and shit will hit the fan.
I agree with the fact that African countries after so called independence can't run anything.
They just went back to their tribalism warfare and of course it's all whiteys fault in their eyes.
I heard that from their mouths.
It's kinda crazy.
Then again, look how long it took US from Revolutionary war to civil war to somewhat organized country? 100 + years ?
Time will tell about Africa, we will all be long dead by then and life will continue...

A similar period to that of Liberia having been established. In that period, the US has built highways, railways, established a system of democracy, built a social system, massive industries & a space program etc.

Whilst Liberia has......... ummmmmmm maybe more or less mastered the wheel!

...but true as hell!

Definitely true but what can we the western powers do about that?
That is the million dollar question
I feel bad about white guys in a Africa
It's their home, they were born and raised there, what is there they can do?
And nobody else will do anything about it
Africa is slipping back to hell and it's slow only because we all give them free money otherwise they would have been in hell already

Catch 22 literally

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Originally posted by sevenmagltd.:
Does anyone see the similarity of the "take from the rich and give to the poor" concept between Zim and what our own (U.S) government is trying to do.

Both Presidents are black? ? ?

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Originally posted by boarkiller:
Definitely true but what can we the western powers do about that?
That is the million dollar question
I feel bad about white guys in a Africa
It's their home, they were born and raised there, what is there they can do?
And nobody else will do anything about it
Africa is slipping back to hell and it's slow only because we all give them free money otherwise they would have been in hell already

Catch 22 literally

Whatever happened to the socialist bleeding hearts - all hiding in a dark corner?? Surely they must know the solution!

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Originally posted by fujotupu:

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Originally posted by boarkiller:
Definitely true but what can we the western powers do about that?
That is the million dollar question
I feel bad about white guys in a Africa
It's their home, they were born and raised there, what is there they can do?
And nobody else will do anything about it
Africa is slipping back to hell and it's slow only because we all give them free money otherwise they would have been in hell already

Catch 22 literally

Whatever happened to the socialist bleeding hearts - all hiding in a dark corner?? Surely they must know the solution!

Oh come now, you know the the answer, it has never changed, it is those colonial white bastards who stuffed up the third world. Those idiots who brought stupid ideas like building with concrete and steel and hospitals and that really stupid institution, parliament. And of course, luxury German autos. How could you even ask?

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those colonial white bastards who stuffed up the third world.

May the pox infest their next of kin!

In Kenya some years ago, I spoke with a local who said it was all the fault of the British.... "You left 50 years too soon!!"
On asking why??!! He said that "All the Tribal Leaders and Political's had been educated, but not the Common people"
He indicated that due to the lack of education filtering down through the masses, those left in power by the exit of the British kept those under them ignorant and subservient to their will.....

We should have aplied evolution theory to Africa
Strongest survive, kinda like clearing the land
Of course that kinda expression will only get me in trouble
Well, it got accomplished in North America and Australia...

And if you fancy a Scottish Stag might be worth doing some rather than later. Given a yes vote in the Scottish referendum we will be getting the same here. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-s...nd-politics-27996654

And

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-s...nds-islands-27735003

Well here in Australia we outnumber our indigenous countrymen by about 23 million to 750,000.

Numbers count.........that's why the poor bloody whites in Africa are doomed...

A very good and personal friend of mine, Lloyd Johnson grew up on a farm in Zimbabwe. He recently wrote a book on his experiences as a youth and young adult in that once great country and the final take over of his family farm by none other than Mugabe and this thugs. The book is called "Spindrift". For those interested it can be purchased on Amazon. The following link will take you there.

http://www.amazon.com/Spindrif...2&keywords=spindrift

Unfortunately no one is making this stuff up, these are all real life stories. Very sad...

I have just been told by friends there that not only is this true and straight from Bad Bob's mouth but he has also issued a notice to his ministers that he does not even want them seen dining out with Whites.

Great ,another marvelous idea to improve the life of the people of Zimbawe.Congratulations to English and Carter gover.they permitted this kind of primate to take over a once great country.

Steve thanks for posting those pictures of Ngwenya. Very sad. I know the property very well from when before it was developed. My best friend as a kid lived there and over weekends there the lions, elephants and buffalo would wonder through. My father nearly died from malaria and tick bite putting in the water pumps from the Crocodile river. I passed through Komatipoort two weeks ago and although it was a hell hole of heat and malaria now it's also one giant trash dump. The only amusing thing was that an old military transport plane has been painted in KFC colors with the old colonel as an advert. I m afraid I saw this change all over the small farming towns of South Africa having driven some 3600 km. And now security companies must be 51percent locally owned, just the beginng of more business take over (see the new visa business rules) land reform has been extended to 2018, and Malema is becoming more popular. The only hope is for an educated middle class to stand up to this idiotic self destruction and corruption.

simply put- whites are a minority throughout Africa. things will only get worse-everywhere. it's not racist if it is a fact and repeated examples show it is a fact.....

Unfortunately that all too true jdollar.

Here is Sydney there is a lot of press coverage about all the residential property being sold to mainland Chinese. They are simply out spending the Australians. And they are circumventing our Foreign Investment Review Board regulations easily.