Anyone watching "Western Extreme" right now?

22 October 2012, 05:14

Paul Reed

505,

If you are talking about the bow hunt for lion, the bad first shot, the long follow-up and the slow death for a regal dangerous game animal, I found it unethical and disheartening…leave the frickin bow at home when hunting dangerous game…it proves nothing IMO. Not a show I normally watch but just happened to sit down for a break…it will be my last episode...

Paul

22 October 2012, 05:18

chuckmaxman

Don't like watching that show. For some reason, the two hosts rub me the wrong way.

22 October 2012, 05:32

boliep

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Don't like watching that show. For some reason, the two hosts rub me the wrong way.

One of them is really hard to take. The other is fair. Show is not one I watch any longer.

22 October 2012, 07:22

jdollar

i guess it's just me but if the animal hunted requires someone with a rifle to back up the first shot FOR SAFETY REASONS- IT SHOULD BE HUNTED WITH A RIFLE TO BEGIN WITH!!!!! if a bow hunter really wants to test his skill/courage, forget the backup and follow his shot and finish it off if necessary-BY HIMSELF! of course this s illegal in Africa for a damn good reason- dead hunters are bad for business

22 October 2012, 16:04

Thunder Head

I usually dont watch it.
I certinaly wasnt going to watch another tame lion being shot while hiding under a bush. I went outside and shot my bow instead.

22 October 2012, 20:52

JoeDemocko

I turn the channel when it comes on.

22 October 2012, 20:56

505 gibbs

One thing I found interesting was that the words "South Africa" were never mentioned, rather, the area was referred to as "The Kalahari".....

22 October 2012, 21:48

butchloc

may the fleas of a thousand camels invade their pubic regions

23 October 2012, 02:06

Dave Fulson

They always say Kalahari, sounds like real hunting. Are we the only ones who hunt wild lions on TV. I'm serious. Well, to be honest Shockey does,maybe others but the list is real short!

23 October 2012, 19:22

AnotherAZWriter

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Originally posted by Dave Fulson:
They always say Kalahari, sounds like real hunting. Are we the only ones who hunt wild lions on TV. I'm serious. Well, to be honest Shockey does,maybe others but the list is real short!

Dave:

Your show is the best because it profiles real customers, not the same guy pulling the trigger over and over. Under Wild Skies is a well done show, but after Makris shoots his 354th elephant, it becomes a bit monotonous. It is also monotonous to watch the same animals shot week after week, another reason I stopped watching Wild Skies. You overdid it on buffalo and location a year ago, but I think you listened to feedback and made some adjustments.

I used to leave Outdoor Channel on while in my trophy room, but most of it is so bad, I just DVR the shows I want to watch. Even then, I don't watch them all.

I wonder how shows like Western Extreme even get sponsors.

23 October 2012, 19:59

Caracal

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Originally posted by Dave Fulson:
They always say Kalahari, sounds like real hunting. Are we the only ones who hunt wild lions on TV. I'm serious. Well, to be honest Shockey does,maybe others but the list is real short!

Probably because it's difficult to film a real lion hunt?

There are so many countries in the world that offer great hunting. Why don't they hunt a little bit off the beaten path. It's always the same stuff.

23 October 2012, 20:13

surestrike

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Probably because it's difficult to film a real lion hunt? Confused

If anybody knows how difficult it is to film real life no shit hunting it's Dave Fulson!

23 October 2012, 20:20

Caracal

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Originally posted by surestrike:
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Probably because it's difficult to film a real lion hunt? Confused

If anybody knows how difficult it is to film real life no shit hunting it's Dave Fulson!

I know, that's why i'm asking him

. Is that the reason they like filming canned stuff?

23 October 2012, 20:39

2Barrels

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You overdid it on buffalo and location a year ago, but I think you listened to feedback and made some adjustments.

Possibly swinging the pendulum a little to far the other way. Lately all I've seen are elephants, more elephants, and even more elephants being shot. Different clients, but the same PHs.

IMHO, "Tracks . . . " could spend a bit more time (other than the 60 second break-away) to educate - trip planning and preparation, etc. Maybe a 'Africa First Timer's segment'

23 October 2012, 20:44

Dave Fulson

Yes is the answer. We have filmed so many 21 day lion hunts where, despite our very best efforts a lion of a certain age or mane size never came to bag. Cameraman costs, their travel expenses, park and government fees and the like are right out the window.But the one day South African 100% successful lion safari is a cannot miss "show" and it obviously is a powerful lure to most producers as proven by the constant stream of these shows.
Ivan recently spent 21 days filming in one of the better Tanzanian blocks for lion. They had, I believe, 4 five year old males on camera that were simply bruisers in both body and mane, yet did not pull the trigger due to the six year old rule in place. We are going to make a show in this case, as both the action and conservation message are strong, but that is the exception for us. But many times we come up with a very expensive NO SHOW. I know you guys get it, and it is appreciated tremendously by our team. But the majority of folks do not, and wonder why the Tracks boys can't shoot those monster maned lions like the rest of the shows. SERENITY NOW!!!! LOL

23 October 2012, 20:52

AnotherAZWriter

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Originally posted by Dave Fulson:
Yes is the answer. We have filmed so many 21 day lion hunts where, despite our very best efforts a lion of a certain age or mane size never came to bag. Cameraman costs, their travel expenses, park and government fees and the like are right out the window.But the one day South African 100% successful lion safari is a cannot miss "show" and it obviously is a powerful lure to most producers as proven by the constant stream of these shows.
Ivan recently spent 21 days filming in one of the better Tanzanian blocks for lion. They had, I believe, 4 five year old males on camera that were simply bruisers in both body and mane, yet did not pull the trigger due to the six year old rule in place. We are going to make a show in this case, as both the action and conservation message are strong, but that is the exception for us. But many times we come up with a very expensive NO SHOW. I know you guys get it, and it is appreciated tremendously by our team. But the majority of folks do not, and wonder why the Tracks boys can't shoot those monster maned lions like the rest of the shows. SERENITY NOW!!!! LOL

Dave,

The "no lion" shows are rather obvious: client is on a 21 day in Tanz...shoots leopard but not lion. It isn't tough to figure out, but it takes nothing away from the show.

Mark Young once said, "You have to see the safari unfold." Those are great words and it applies in spades to a well filmed hunt. Not all are successful, and to me, it adds to the show. I watch "On Your Own Adventures" because it isn't predictable, even though Randy is too often the guy pulling the trigger (but not always).

24 October 2012, 10:01

Bud Meadows

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Originally posted by boliep:
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Don't like watching that show. For some reason, the two hosts rub me the wrong way.

One of them is really hard to take. The other is fair. Show is not one I watch any longer.

I agree 100%. Jim Burnworth is a smug arrogant braggart. He celebrates after every kill like he just scored the winning TD in the Superbowl. He's big on canned hunts, whether it's Africa or elk.

24 October 2012, 22:00

Dave Fulson

Yep, all hunting shows are crap anyhow, nothing to learn from or enjoy there...

25 October 2012, 03:14

Slider

That show is a waste of good air time.

25 October 2012, 04:52

AnotherAZWriter

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Originally posted by Dave Fulson:
Yep, all hunting shows are crap anyhow, nothing to learn from or enjoy there...

Dave:

I watched Sports Afield last night; good show, even though Steve H. didn't get a ram. You never know till the end of the hunt...or the end of the show.

25 October 2012, 09:07

Aaron Neilson

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Originally posted by AnotherAZWriter:
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Originally posted by Dave Fulson:
Yep, all hunting shows are crap anyhow, nothing to learn from or enjoy there...

Dave:

I watched Sports Afield last night; good show, even though Steve H. didn't get a ram. You never know till the end of the hunt...or the end of the show.

Agreed! The Sports Afield show is well produced, and offers those of us that like to see hunts from around the globe, alot of variety. Good job - Safari Classics.

26 October 2012, 21:45

filmit

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Originally posted by Bud Meadows:
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Originally posted by boliep:
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Don't like watching that show. For some reason, the two hosts rub me the wrong way.

One of them is really hard to take. The other is fair. Show is not one I watch any longer.

I agree 100%. Jim Burnworth is a smug arrogant braggart. He celebrates after every kill like he just scored the winning TD in the Superbowl. He's big on canned hunts, whether it's Africa or elk.

+1 I can't stand the guy, let alone understand what he's saying. I saw him at a sportshow one year and he was just running around trying to get free hunts from outfitters. Very arrogant IMO. Don't like his partner either.