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On the Tourism Tanzania web site there is a list of Hunting Licenced Tourist Agents dated 2004. The list is detailed below. What exactly does this list mean? If a safari outiftter is not on the list what does that mean? Thanks. HUNTING SAFARIS ARUSHA: 1 Otterlo Business Corporation Ltd 2 Wengert Windrose Safaris (T0 Ltd 3 Robin Hurt Safaris 4 Tanzania Game Trackers 5 Old Nyika Safaris Ltd 6 Tanzania Big Game Safaris Ltd 7 Tandala Hunting Safaris Ltd 8 Tanganyika Game Fishing & Photographic Safaris Ltd 9 Safari Royal Holdings Ltd 10 Tanzania Safaris & Hunting (2003) Ltd 11 Northern Hunting Entr. Ltd 12 Pori Trackers Of Africa Ltd 13 Tanzania Game Tracker Safaris Ltd DAR ES SALAAM: 1 LUKE Samaras Safaris Ltd 2 Tanzania Bundu Safaris Ltd 3 Royal Frontiers Of Tanzania Ltd 4 Game Frontiers Of Tanzania Ltd 5 Miombo Safaris Ltd 6 African Bush Company Ltd 8 Wild Foot Prints Ltd 9 Barlette Safaris Co. Ltd 10 Tanganyika Wildlife Safaris Ltd 11 Kilombero North Safaris 12 Rugwa Game Safaris (T) Ltd OTHER REGIONS: 1 VIP Safari Club (Mara) The website: http://www.tourismtanzania.go.tz/documents/TOURIST%20AGENTS.htm
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Hi Nitrox. The Wildlife Act states that in order to conduct tourist hunting operations in Tanzania, a company must first be registered as a hunting company in Tanzania. Only Tanzanian registered hunting companies can apply for a hunting concession through the Director of Wildlife. Furthermore, it is my understanding that Tanzanian registered hunting companies that own one or more hunting concessions are bound by a MoU with the Game Department which states that it is illegal to "sub-lease" their hunting concessions to 3rd parties (I am searching for a document to confirm this). "...Them, they were Giants!" J.A. Hunter describing the early explorers and settlers of East Africa hunting is not about the killing but about the chase of the hunt.... Ortega Y Gasset | |||
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Good find Nitro. Here's the 2005 List from the pdf at: http://www.tourismtanzania.go.tz/Documents/List%20of%20...Tourist%20Agents.pdf HUNTING SAFARIS ARUSHA: 1. Grumeti Reserves Ltd 2. Kilimanjaro Game Trails Ltd 3. Old Nyika Safaris Ltd 4. Otterlo Business Corporation Ltd 5. Pori Trackers Of Africa Ltd 6. Robin Hurt Safaris Ltd 7. Safari Royal Holdings Ltd 8. Tandala Hunting Safaris (1998) Ltd 9. Tanzania Big Game Safaris Ltd 10. Tanzania Game Tracker Safaris Ltd 11. Tanzania Safaris & Hunting (2003) Ltd 12. Wengert Windrose Safaris (T) Ltd DAR ES SALAAM: 1. African Bush Company Ltd 2. Barlette Safaris Co. Ltd 3. Coastal Wilderness Ltd 4. Eco Safaris Ltd. 5. Enzagi Safaris Ltd 6. Game Frontiers of Tanzania Ltd 7. Gerard Pasanis Safaris 8. Intercon Adventrues Safaris Ltd 9. FOA Adventrues Safaris Ltd 10. Kilombero North Safaris Ltd 11. Luke Samaras Safaris Ltd 12. Miombo Safaris Ltd 13. Northern Hunting Entr. Ltd 14. Royal Frontiers of Tanzania Ltd 15. Rugwa Game Safaris (T) Ltd 16. Tanganyika Wildlife Safaris Ltd 17. Tanzania Bundu Safaris Ltd 18. Wild Foot Prints Ltd | |||
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http://www.tanzania.go.tz/budgetspeech/2005/Maliasili%2...alii%20majedwali.htm Scroll down to Jedwali Na. 8 and see a chart with the revenues of all the outfitters over the last few years. Regards, Terry Msasi haogopi mwiba [A hunter is not afraid of thorns] | |||
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Terry, I was told by a TZ Safari company that this chart is probably paid Trophy Fees. CHEERS | |||
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MZEE, Thanks, yes I assume it is the fees paid from the outfitters to the Government of Tanzania. Regards, Terry Msasi haogopi mwiba [A hunter is not afraid of thorns] | |||
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So what does it mean if your PH and safari outfitter are not on the list? | |||
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Where does that put Usangu and Tawico Safaris? 465H&H | |||
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Usangu and TaWiCo are bona fide operators, who are owned by the Mulla clan of the Baluchi tribe. They started Usangu years back, and later bought TaWiCo from the government as it was a parastatal that was for sale. Rumour has it that TaWiCo is being taken over by a wealthy individual from Florida who is owed $1.4m by them!!! Usangu will remain with Mzee Hassan Mulla who started the whole business about 16 years back. | |||
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jangili! Does that mean that the list posted above is not complete or are they listed there under another name? 465H&H | |||
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So if I am thinking of booking a safari in Tanzania, but the safari company is not on the list above, what does that mean? | |||
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Its pretty obvious other outfitters or PHs also legally buy access to the concessions as well, perhaps from some of these licenced outfitters listed here. But some of these licenced outfitters evidently do not "re-sell" their rights or access and only deal with clients directly. However how does this fit in then:
This is just conjecture. I am interested in hearing what the actual framework is, for personal knowledge. Hopefully someone knowledgable can answer. | |||
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This is most interesting Does this mean that outfits that have been sub leasing have been breaking the law? What about Kuduland Safaris. They sub-lease from Intercon....apparently. Jezz | |||
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Terry, What do you make of that list? On its face, the safari companies paying the highest dollar figure are obviously taking more trophies. But, are they operating more camps out of numerous concessions, have better concessions, better professinal hunters or over utilizing their quotas? "There are worse memorials to a life well-lived than a pair of elephant tusks." Robert Ruark | |||
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SBT, I don't think you can do a direct comparison because (as you said) the dollar amount would be affected by the fees charged, the number of hunters and concessions each company has per year, the amount of quota taken, etc. Honestly, I don't think it tells us much. I just found it interesting. Regards, Terry Msasi haogopi mwiba [A hunter is not afraid of thorns] | |||
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Harry, 500g and others, A non TZ registered outfitter can book a hunt with any of the listed companies and hunt in their concessions PROVIDED the listed company "outfits" the safari and that the client is "guided" by a TZ registered PH employed by the listed company. In effect the hunt is a hunt conducted by the "listed company" whereby the "foreign company" is the client. That makes the Listed company responsible for all Gov fees due, licenses, trophy exports, etc AND very important, TAX liabilities resulting from the hunt. The fact that it is a common occurence does not detract from the fact that if not done correctly it is an illegal transaction. But then who'se checking "...Them, they were Giants!" J.A. Hunter describing the early explorers and settlers of East Africa hunting is not about the killing but about the chase of the hunt.... Ortega Y Gasset | |||
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Thanks for the explanation Mich. | |||
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