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Here are a few more pictures from my father and grandfather's safari in 1965 with Harry Selby. I hope you enjoy them as much as I have. I thought the one of my father drawing a bead on an elephant was a great photo (he didn't shoot it). Mr. Selby told him more than once not to shoot the bull - my father was 18 at the time, and he wanted to be sure he didn't get too excited and pull the trigger. It would have been a heck of a bull, but had a broken tusk... I've had the distinct pleasure of exchanging a few emails with Mr. Selby as a result of these pictures, and thought I'd share with some additional information about the hunts that he conducted at that time: He made mention of the following (hopefully I have the details correct): When he started the Ker Downey & Selby operation in Botswana, they decided on an 'all-in' safari charge. The quote included the hunt for the number of hunters on the safari and the duration. It included the 'Package Game License" which included 1 elephant, 1 lion, 1 leopard, 4 buffalo, 3 kudu, 1 sable, 1 sitatunga, 1 roan, 1 waterbuck, 1 gemsbok and a generous number of other plains game. Extra animals could be purchased for some species, however no extra sable. There were no trophy fees and no concession fees, all drinks and gratuities except for the professional hunter were also included (it was not uncommon in those days to not tip the hunter). The only extra for the client's account were any purchases made on the safari, such as curios, or any charter aircraft fees. The system worked very well, and clients were happy to know exactly what the safari would cost before its commencement. They were eventually forced to abandon this method of 'safari charge' due to their competitors comparing their prices to KD&S's and neglecting to mention that their quote would include a whopping after safari's end bill...this generally worked out to be more expensive than their safari quote system would have been. Given that this was prior to SCI/DSC, hunters were not able to compare prices as easily, and their quote appeared to be much higher than that of their competitors. I am not sure if someone could conduct a safari of this type in Botswana today - I can only imagine the cost. Brant                     | ||
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Too cool. I'm thinking leather jacket on the next trip! Some things never change, like Coke, Fanta, and stringing the wires for the radio. Except I guess there are satelite phones these days too. ------------------------------- Will / Once you've been amongst them, there is no such thing as too much gun. --------------------------------------- and, God Bless John Wayne. NRA Benefactor, GOA, NAGR _________________________ "Elephant and Elephant Guns" $99 shipped. “Hunting Africa's Dangerous Game" $20 shipped. red.dirt.elephant@gmail.com _________________________ If anything be of note, let it be he was once an elephant hunter, hoping to wind up where elephant hunters go. | |||
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Yes, like that Land Rover. The Australian defense Force's still use them and most of them are probably from the 60s. | |||
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Thanks for posting these great pictures! It sure was nice looking at them. | |||
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From the  Seriously though, great pics, thanks for sharing! Cheers, Dave. Aut Inveniam Viam aut Faciam. | |||
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Superb! - mike ********************* The rifle is a noble weapon... It entices its bearer into primeval forests, into mountains and deserts untenanted by man. - Horace Kephart | |||
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This thread is great. The picture of your dad and the ducks is wonderful. This is nice to see things like this on the forum. Global Sportsmen Outfitters, LLC Bob Cunningham 404-802-2500  | |||
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FANTASTIC!!! Thanks for posting. Kathi kathi@wildtravel.net 708-425-3552 "The world is a book, and those who do not travel read only one page." | |||
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This just reminded me of some videos that were converted from super 8 of a friend of mines fathers hunts with Harry from the 60's. They were pretty cool to watch. Thanks for sharing. | |||
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Although Will may be right (and isn't he usually?) about some things never changing, when I see these wonderful pictures I am put in mind of the title of Peter Byrne's book Gone are the Days. Many thanks for posting these. Strange to think that twenty or thirty years from now (or sooner?) people will look back on how inexpensive and easily available hunts were for us. ------------------------------- Some Pictures from Namibia Some Pictures from Zimbabwe An Elephant Story | |||
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Pictures of yours remind me of the days way back in my youth that first tingled my brain into thinking of going on safari in Africa. Thanks for sharing them with us. .395 Family Member DRSS, po' boy member Political correctness is nothing but liberal enforced censorship | |||
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Thanks, Selby is one of my heroes! What a treat to see these! Karamojo Bill At then end of my time here, I want to come skidding through the Pearly Gates & hear God say, "Whoa Boy, that was a hell of a ride!" | |||
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The buffalo pic is a fantastic shot of your dad and the buff, but also, the fact that selby is in the background. I wonder if it was planned that way, or just happened by accident Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum | |||
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Brant, these are fabulous, thank you! I hope you publish these in a book someday. LDK Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333 Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com NRA Benefactor DSC Professional Member SCI Member RMEF Life Member NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor NAHC Life Member Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt: http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262 Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142 Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007 http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007 16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more: http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409 Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311 Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941 10 days in the Stormberg Mountains http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322 Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232 "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running...... "If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you." | |||
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More great photos. Thanks for sharing these. I love the old bull buff your dad shot, and the sable your grandfather shot is remarkable too. Super warthog, waterbuck, etc. too! They must have had a terrific time of it on that safari. And that Weatherby they were sharing has some very pretty wood on it. The slides seem to have held up very well over the years. Thanks again. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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reat photos, thanks for sharing them with us. | |||
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Thanks for sharing. Great photos. Do you have any info on the rifles and scopes? Have gun- Will travel The value of a trophy is computed directly in terms of personal investment in its acquisition. Robert Ruark | |||
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Man, what I wouldn't give to have a mint Landrover like the one pictured with Selby! On the plains of hesitation lie the bleached bones of ten thousand, who on the dawn of victory lay down their weary heads resting, and there resting, died. If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue, Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch... Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it, And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son! - Rudyard Kipling Life grows grim without senseless indulgence. | |||
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There are plenty available for you to choose from here in Aus. | |||
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Those pictures are just terrific. I really appreciate your sharing them with us. Thanks. Kudude | |||
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I'm headed there as soon as I can, Adam. Line me up a buff and a banteng and throw in a minty 'Rover to top her off... man that's heaven! On the plains of hesitation lie the bleached bones of ten thousand, who on the dawn of victory lay down their weary heads resting, and there resting, died. If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue, Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch... Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it, And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son! - Rudyard Kipling Life grows grim without senseless indulgence. | |||
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Russ, Barry Jones of www.buffalosafaris.com would be a good option on the Buff, Bantang and Boar and im sure we could find a classic Landy to send to Texas at a resonable price.  | |||
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You can have mine if you want. Just come and pick it up... Which one do you want? A Series One, Two, 2A or Three?  Harry's looks to be a 2A, Cheers, Dave. Aut Inveniam Viam aut Faciam. | |||
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Very interesting post. Do you know what they spent for the safari? mario | |||
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Man I love the Aussies!!!!! On the plains of hesitation lie the bleached bones of ten thousand, who on the dawn of victory lay down their weary heads resting, and there resting, died. If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue, Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch... Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it, And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son! - Rudyard Kipling Life grows grim without senseless indulgence. | |||
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Too cool!!!! The photo of Riley's is great. An old man sleeps with his conscience, a young man sleeps with his dreams. | |||
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What a wonderful time to have been in Africa. Thanks for the photos. I have a custom 25-06 that is a twin of the rifle shown in the picture of your grandfather. An absolute twin. It was built in the late 60's or early 70's by a guy in Miami. | |||
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Those were the days. Thank you for sharing the photos. I know someone who hunted in Botswana in 1969 or 1970, his was a 28 day safari for the big 4 and it cost him under ten thousand dollars including travel and trophy fees. Aziz  | |||
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Again, thank you for sharing these wonderfull pictures. Proud DRSS member | |||
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Aziz, Glad you enjoyed the pictures. The safari in 1965 cost about $12,000 for two people, 21 days, full bag. A good chunk of change back then, but I can't really guess what it would be now. Brant
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LDK, I am trying to figure out what to do with them. I've started to put together a photo book of this safari for my father. I think I will try to do one for each of their "major" trips, and maybe a compilation of trips from the western U.S. and Alaska. Fortunately, getting them printed by the web-based publishers these days makes it much easier. There are dozens of magazine articles written by Erwin Bauer covering many of these trips - they will get archived as well - kind of like The Nick Kudu files here on AR. Brant
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 Seriously, I restore them for fun. When I work out how, I'll stick up a few pics. Cheers, Dave. Aut Inveniam Viam aut Faciam. | |||
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brant, love the photos you have been posting, keep em coming thanks! | |||
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