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U.S Banks Now Not Wire Xfer $$ to Zim??
19 November 2013, 05:12
MopaneMikeU.S Banks Now Not Wire Xfer $$ to Zim??
I took the day off work this am in order to wire transfer fee's for shipping my trophies..
About an hour later, my bank calls and informs me that they no longer can wire transfer to Zim..
What gives?? Bob do something even more than what he's done?
I didn't have any issues transferring funds for my hunt earlier this year..
MopaneMike
19 November 2013, 05:37
pagosawingnutHadn't heard of that. I just wire transferred funds for my trophies about 5 weeks ago.
19 November 2013, 18:35
cnm123Mike
I sent a wire to ZIM last week with TD Bank.
Chris
19 November 2013, 18:44
JaglavDid you attempt to do the wire through a major bank or a local bank/credit union? Sometimes smaller banks/credit unions are problematic when it comes to international wire transfers.
19 November 2013, 18:48
martin pietersWires arrive fine as of yesterday.
19 November 2013, 20:40
Greg BrownleeIt's probably a policy with your bank. Some banks have a black list of countries they won't wire to, with the smaller banks having a longer list than the big banks (just as Jaglav states). We wire money to Zim frequently.
Greg
19 November 2013, 20:59
ledvmAnother hunter mentioned the same problem not to long ago...can't remember what the verdict was for him in the end.
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19 November 2013, 21:22
BEGNOchange banks
BUTCH
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19 November 2013, 21:24
McKaySent one last week and all was good. Sent from Chase Bank.
Mac
19 November 2013, 22:39
DulcineaI had the problem. It was my credit union that would/could not do it. Because I rd not have a relationship with a big bank could not do through one either. Ended up sending a check to a US partner
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19 November 2013, 23:19
MuletrainChase will do wire transfers to Zim.
Chase, in Houston, will not notarize copies of 4457 forms or a copy of the first page of your passport.
Last year they would, this year they would not. I had to go to a FedEx store to get the notary work done.
Elephant Hunter,
Double Rifle Shooter Society,
NRA Lifetime Member,
Ten Safaris, in RSA, Namibia, Zimbabwe
19 November 2013, 23:52
MopaneMikeThank you all for your replies..
I used the same bank earlier this year.. Don't know why they suddenly changed up on me.. Htae to open an account somewhere just to wire one time..
MopaneMike
20 November 2013, 00:05
MJinesquote:
Originally posted by Muletrain:
Chase, in Houston, will not notarize copies of 4457 forms or a copy of the first page of your passport.
Curious, why do you need notarized copies of either a 4457 or the first page of a passport? I have never done either.
Mike
20 November 2013, 00:50
Muletrainquote:
Originally posted by MJines:
quote:
Originally posted by Muletrain:
Chase, in Houston, will not notarize copies of 4457 forms or a copy of the first page of your passport.
Curious, why do you need notarized copies of either a 4457 or the first page of a passport? I have never done either.
S.A. in-transit firearms permit.
Elephant Hunter,
Double Rifle Shooter Society,
NRA Lifetime Member,
Ten Safaris, in RSA, Namibia, Zimbabwe
20 November 2013, 01:01
MJinesThanks . . . another benefit of flying Emirates and skipping Jo'berg.
Mike
20 November 2013, 02:16
Todd Williamsquote:
Originally posted by Muletrain:
quote:
Originally posted by MJines:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Muletrain:
Chase, in Houston, will not notarize copies of 4457 forms or a copy of the first page of your passport.
Curious, why do you need notarized copies of either a 4457 or the first page of a passport? I have never done either.
When did it become a requirement to have those items notarized? I'm leaving in 9 days and don't have mine notarized. Although I'm booked to go on through and not clear in JoBerg, that continuation flight was canceled last year and I had to clear and spend the night, so it's always best to be prepared. I had heard the notary requirement before, but I've cleared in JoBerg 8 times previously, as late as late last year, October 2012. No notary and no issues?
Do you have a link to this being a requirement now?
Thanks.
20 November 2013, 02:31
Todd WilliamsJust checked the SAPS website. It hasn't changed since I last viewed it. States certified copy of passport docs and certified copy of permit (4457). I always let them make their own copy of my passport info and the 4457 already has a certifying stamp from the customs officer. It doesn't mention Notary anywhere that I can find.
Good to go I think!
20 November 2013, 02:36
BEGNOThe only time I have seen a notarized copy of documents required was when applying for a visa and the documents were being sent to their Embassy in the US.
Since I clear my guns myself and present the original/official documents there is no need for notarized anything.
BUTCH
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(It is all good)
20 November 2013, 02:51
Todd Williamsquote:
Originally posted by BEGNO:
The only time I have seen a notarized copy of documents required was when applying for a visa and the documents were being sent to their Embassy in the US.
Since I clear my guns myself and present the original/official documents there is no need for notarized anything.

20 November 2013, 06:05
sevenmagltd.All wires go through a "corresponding U.S.bank" who then transfers the money to Zim. They should have supplied you with that information as part of the wiring instructions. Hope that may help.
20 November 2013, 08:48
MopaneMikeWe came up with a "Plan B"
Thanks all
MopaneMike
20 November 2013, 09:09
H TI think it has to do with new regulations that came into play in late October (the 21st?) as a result of the Dodd-Frank Act.

Puts some additional recordkeeping and regulations on the bank sending an international wire, and some banks figured that since they don't do a lot of them, the chances to make a mistake are too great, and considering the penatlies have opted out. So it's a Congress thing rather than a mysterious change from a bank.
20 November 2013, 11:16
NakihunterThe small town banks in the US are a real pain to send money to - even from NZ. You have to use the larger international intermediary banks and they take a sizable fee for playing middle man!
Wells Fargo as the intermediary bank charged me double what my bank charged me for a transaction!
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10 December 2013, 09:04
Russ GouldChase notified me by letter not too long ago that they will no longer transmit "personal" wires to foreign countries, only legit business wires.
Re notarization, that is required if you are getting your RSA rifle permits "in advance" thru a third party. All the paperwork has to be notarized. Frankly, I have never seen the need to have someone do this for me in advance. I do it on arrival and have never had a problem. Esp if you take photocopies of all the docs, it goes quickly.
Russ Gould - Whitworth Arms LLC
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11 December 2013, 00:45
Bwana338Russ,
I received the same letter from Wells Fargo In October. Only i need to visit with them in person and make some arrangements on money transfers by wire in the future and if they will be allowed.
Never had an issue until i went to Zimbabwe. I received the speal, that you could not use your credit card in Zimbabwe, sign in and let the state department know where you are going and who were you doing business with. (i am sure it had to due with the elections last year)
Last year the shipper of my trophy's had to be billed out of South Africa so that i could transfer the money.
quote:
Originally posted by Russ Gould:
Chase notified me by letter not too long ago that they will no longer transmit "personal" wires to foreign countries, only legit business wires.
Re notarization, that is required if you are getting your RSA rifle permits "in advance" thru a third party. All the paperwork has to be notarized. Frankly, I have never seen the need to have someone do this for me in advance. I do it on arrival and have never had a problem. Esp if you take photocopies of all the docs, it goes quickly.
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11 December 2013, 01:43
DuckearAs an aside, I did have fun last year with the bank rep when wiring funds to Bots to have my trophies shipped back.
I told her I had just gotten an email and needed to wire a few thousand dollars to Africa. In return, they would ship me a crate full of treasures.
Her look was priceless as she said, " I can't let you do that. Let me get a manager!"

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14 December 2013, 05:43
Russ GouldHmmm ... It occurs to me that if the gov't were getting worried about a run on the dollar, this is exactly what they would do ... among other things. If they make the private purchase of bullion illegal as well, then expect the worst. I suppose you can buy a foreign mutual fund if it comes down to nut-cutting time. Or a pile of food and ammo.
Russ Gould - Whitworth Arms LLC
BigfiveHQ.com, Large Calibers and African Safaris
Doublegunhq.com, Fine English, American and German Double Rifles and Shotguns
VH2Q.com, Varmint Rifles and Gear
14 December 2013, 09:46
FjoldMy brother's credit union wouldn't do an international money transfer to South Africa.
Frank
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14 December 2013, 19:35
Bwana338Russ
Went to the bank last week to order up 20K SA Rands... I was expecting to have it this week... I have not heard anything and i may be will have to go visit with them next week.
Your post is and side i did not think about.
quote:
Originally posted by Russ Gould:
Hmmm ... It occurs to me that if the gov't were getting worried about a run on the dollar, this is exactly what they would do ... among other things. If they make the private purchase of bullion illegal as well, then expect the worst. I suppose you can buy a foreign mutual fund if it comes down to nut-cutting time. Or a pile of food and ammo.
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"You've got the strongest hand in the world. That's right. Your hand. The hand that marks the ballot. The hand that pulls the voting lever. Use it, will you" John Wayne
14 December 2013, 21:11
Russ GouldWell as an agent I can still wire funds to safari operators around the world. I use AMEX as well as Chase, and AMEX recently made it very clear that any use of the service to wire personal funds would result in the termination of my account. I think this is all Dodd Frank or Patriot Act stuff.
Anyway, if anyone wants to appoint me as their "agent", let me know@!
Russ Gould - Whitworth Arms LLC
BigfiveHQ.com, Large Calibers and African Safaris
Doublegunhq.com, Fine English, American and German Double Rifles and Shotguns
VH2Q.com, Varmint Rifles and Gear
26 December 2013, 07:13
r_p_narramoreI tried to transfer my shipping fees for my trophies Tuesday morning and my bank said they had Zimbabwe on a blocked list. I'll have to try to figure something out tomorrow when everything opens back up.