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I've had the opportunity to take 15 whitetail deer sized animals (8 whitetails, 3 impala, 2 Red Lechewe, and 2 tsessebe) with 5 different calibers: 300 Rem SAUM 180gr, 300 WM unknown bullet, 30-06 180gr TBBC, 7X57 140gr core Lockt, and 375 H&H 300gr TBBC. All, with the possible exception of the 300 WM (PH's gun), were factory loads All worked well. Factoring in distance traveled after the shot, damage done to the trophy (big exit holes from 300 RSAUM and WM), recoil, etc; this highly unscientific survey leads me to say: "the 7X57 is the best choice for whitetail Deer sized game". TerryR When your next African hunt is a year away you have a lot of time for idle thoughts. | ||
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They are all the same. They all do basically the same thing. Because we are enthusiasts and we are bored at work, we like to argue about how many spirits can dance on the head of a pin. Everything from a .22-250 to a .460 Weatherby will terminate a whitetail. We argue because we are bored. analog_peninsula ----------------------- It takes character to withstand the rigors of indolence. | |||
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They are all the same only in they all will kill a whitetail/impala sized animal well. They are different however. The 300 magnums cause much more tissue damage. They have differing amounts of recoil. They feel different. In the end each of us has more or less confidence in one or the other. If we simply use a bench mark of which will effectively terminate any animal, than we would all have a 375 H&H and only a 375 H&H. After all it will kill anything, so why bother with any other caliber? TerryR | |||
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Thanks Terry. Now I have to go out and get a 7x57. It never ends! (at least I hope it never does!!!)  Brian "If you can't go all out, don't go..." | |||
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Interesting Terry. I note that the CoreLokt is hardly a premium bullet! peter. Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright, that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong; | |||
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No way will I get a 7 x 57, I want a .280 Rem.  | |||
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https://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/2711043/m/392101807  Brian "If you can't go all out, don't go..." | |||
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I like the .25 caliber for white tail size game. | |||
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Hmm!!! I will opt for .308 Winchester with 165 gr. bullets. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Just my 2 cents on the subject and nothing more: I'll keep my .280 although I own a .300RUM. If I want to avoid massive tissue damage I would use a Barnes bullet, 180 grain and do my best to pick a broadside shot avoiding the shoulders. Remington Corelokt's may not be a premium bullet but they do a premium job on Whitetails; big or small IMHO. Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333 Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com NRA Benefactor DSC Professional Member SCI Member RMEF Life Member NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor NAHC Life Member Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt: http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262 Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142 Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007 http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007 16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more: http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409 Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311 Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941 10 days in the Stormberg Mountains http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322 Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232 "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running...... "If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you." | |||
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Terry, Thanks for opening up this this can of worms! Yeppers, I used to think the 7x57mm was the perfect whitetailed deer cartridge, then I latched onto the 6.5x54mm, 6.5x55mm, 6.5x57mm, .260 Remington, .257 Roberts, and most recently the .280 Remington. Gee, the ALL do the job, but I have to tip my hat to the 6.5mm family, as I have taken the most deer (14) with the 6.5mms. The .30-06 works every time, the .270 is overkill, .243 WCF works, and ye olde and hoary .38-55 WCF is a killer. It still boils down to shot placement and a reasonable bullet. LLS  | |||
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