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Cartridges and their associated hunting personalities
28 June 2011, 13:35
umshiniwamCartridges and their associated hunting personalities
Hi,
for pure entertainment value, which iconic hunting personalities do you associate with the various hunting cartridges/chamberings?
I am thinking along the lines of well-known hunting personalities who were known to use, or are currently using these, through their careers, and are inextricably associated.
For example, my list thus far;
.270 Win. - Jack O'Connor
7x57mm - WDM "Karamojo" Bell
.30-06 Spr. - Teddy Roosevelt, Ernest Hemingway?
.416 Rigby - Harry Selby
.375 H&H - Harry Manners
.458 Win. Mag. - Ron Thomson?, Richard Harland
.500 Jeffery - Fletcher Jamieson
.505 Gibbs - Kevin "Doctari" Robertson, Richard Harland
I wouldn't say this should be restricted to hunters and cartridges of old, e.g. who would you consider to be the icon of the .458 Lott? Is there one?
I would like to hear what your thoughts are.
Cheers
28 June 2011, 13:55
ozhunter500NE- Sten Cedargren.
470NE-George Adamson.
28 June 2011, 13:58
mouse939,3x62 - Ganyana
375-404 Jeffery - Saeed
.450 NE No2 - Ian Nyschens
28 June 2011, 14:04
umshiniwamquote:
Originally posted by mouse93:
9,3x62 - Ganyana
& Osa Johnson?
28 June 2011, 14:06
mouse93...by all means
28 June 2011, 19:38
jvw375Not to forget the .577 NE (Jim Sutherland), or the 10,75x68 (George Michael, and not the one with a fondness for public toilets), or the .450/400 (John Taylor), or the .577 BPE (Sam Baker)...
28 June 2011, 20:33
degoins.275 Rigby, 450-400....Jim Corbett
DRSS
28 June 2011, 21:07
BaxterB4-Bore Hollis Frederick Selous
45 Colt Elmer Keith
244 H&H Magnum Robert Ruark
I would add Wally Johnson for the 375 H&H
600 Nitro Mark Sullivan
28 June 2011, 21:11
kayakerTony Sanchez-Arino championed the 9,3x64 quite a bit (along with the .416Rigby and .375)
28 June 2011, 21:35
nainitalI may add that the 500 NE was the war horse of nobody less than John A. Hunter. By the way, Sánchez Ariño also championed the 465 H&H.
28 June 2011, 23:38
Max Trauma.338 win mag Jim Carmichael
28 June 2011, 23:41
phurley5Elgin Gates --- .300 Weatherby Mag.
phurley
28 June 2011, 23:50
shootaway458 lott-shootaway
28 June 2011, 23:55
MikeBurkequote:
.505 Gibbs - Kevin "Doctari" Robertson, Richard Harland
and Barry Duckworth
29 June 2011, 00:23
AnotherAZWriter.333 OKH Elmer Keith
.416 Rigby - Jack O'Connor
.30-06 Eleanor O'Connor
I agree Carmichel should be associated with the .338 Win, but even more so the .458 Win.
29 June 2011, 00:26
BaxterB338 Win Mag. Robert K. Brown
29 June 2011, 01:07
BaxterB416 Taylor --- Will!!!
29 June 2011, 01:27
JBrownquote:
Originally posted by phurley5:
Elgin Gates --- .300 Weatherby Mag.
Add Herb Klien to the 300 Weatherby.
quote:
Originally posted by umshiniwam:
.30-06 Spr. - Teddy Roosevelt, Ernest Hemingway?
You could add Grancel Fitz to the 30-06. He was(IIRC) the first person to kill record book heads of all NA game, and he did it all with a G&H 30-06.
Also, 7mm Magnum = Warren Page
8MM Magnum(or anything fast and flat) = Col. Charles Askins
Jason
"You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core."
_______________________
Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt.
Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry
Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure.
-Jason Brown
29 June 2011, 01:54
JeffreyPhD458 Win Mag: Finn Aagaard
338 OKH: Elmer Keith
44 Rem Mag: Elmer Keith
29 June 2011, 02:04
Von Gruff404 Jeffery John F Burger.
Von Gruff.
29 June 2011, 02:10
nainital30-06: Stewart Edward White before all of them.
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J. Lane Easter, DVM
A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House
No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
29 June 2011, 02:43
PSmithLord Grey and .280 Ross
Paul Smith
SCI Life Member
NRA Life Member
DSC Member
Life Member of the "I Can't Wait to Get Back to Africa" Club
DRSS
I had the privilege to fire E. Hemingway's WR .577NE, E. Keith's WR .470NE, & F. Jamieson's WJJ .500 Jeffery
I strongly recommend avoidance of "The Zambezi Safari & Travel Co., Ltd." and "Pisces Sportfishing-Cabo San Lucas"
"A failed policy of national defense is its own punishment" Otto von Bismarck
29 June 2011, 02:51
Cross L50-90 Sharps--Billy Dixon
50-70 Springfield--Buffalo Bill Cody
SSR
quote:
270 Win. - Jack O'Connor
7x57mm - WDM "Karamojo" Bell
.30-06 Spr. - Teddy Roosevelt, Ernest Hemingway?
.416 Rigby - Harry Selby
.375 H&H - Harry Manners
.458 Win. Mag. - Ron Thomson?, Richard Harland
.500 Jeffery - Fletcher Jamieson
.505 Gibbs - Kevin "Doctari" Robertson, Richard Harland
I thought Teddy would be .405 WCF???
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J. Lane Easter, DVM
A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House
No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
29 June 2011, 03:15
Cross Lquote:
Originally posted by ledvm:
quote:
270 Win. - Jack O'Connor
7x57mm - WDM "Karamojo" Bell
.30-06 Spr. - Teddy Roosevelt, Ernest Hemingway?
.416 Rigby - Harry Selby
.375 H&H - Harry Manners
.458 Win. Mag. - Ron Thomson?, Richard Harland
.500 Jeffery - Fletcher Jamieson
.505 Gibbs - Kevin "Doctari" Robertson, Richard Harland
I thought Teddy would be .405 WCF???
Since as I understand it he was personally involved as president in the adoption of the 03 Springfield and the 03 and 06 cartridges it is fair to associate him with it. I am not sure but I seem to recall that he shot an elephant with the 06.
SSR
29 June 2011, 03:23
Nitro Express416 Hoffman - George Hoffman
LTC, USA, RET
Benefactor Life Member, NRA
Member, SCI & DSC
Proud son of Texas A&M, Class of 1969
"A man's reach should exceed his grasp, or what's a heaven for?" Robert Browning
29 June 2011, 03:35
Nakihunter8mm Rem Mag - Craig Bodington
458 Win Mag - Phil Shoemaker
308 Win - John Wooters
"When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick."
Single shot Blunderbuss - Elmer Fudd
44 Magnum - Clint Eastwood (as Dirty Harry)
29 June 2011, 04:10
BaxterB375 JDJ -- JD Jones
373 H&H - Eugene Henderson ;-)
29 June 2011, 04:36
safari-lawyer416 Rem. Mag -- Me -- In less than two weeks!

Will J. Parks, III
29 June 2011, 06:17
johnfox243-Warren Page
29 June 2011, 06:41
BigFiveJack2 Bore (Baby)- Baker
Jack
OH GOD! {Seriously, we need the help.}
29 June 2011, 06:53
phill pittman458 Lott--Jack Lott why not?
quote:
Originally posted by Cross L:
50-90 Sharps--Billy Dixon
50-70 Springfield--Buffalo Bill Cody
SSR
50-70
Springfield Government
as in the Allin Conversion of percussion musket to Trapdoor Springfield,in 1868, the first centerfire breechloader rifle of the U.S. Army.
As in "Lucretia Borgia" the "Needle Gun" of William F. Cody, which was a direct descendant of the first metallic cartridge (rimfire .69-caliber

) breechloader in the world.
"Needle Gun" referred only to the long and skinny shape of the centerfire Trapdoor Springfield rifle, not a pin-fire.
Yes, we here in the USA beat the rest of the world to it, in 1858, Morse conversion, of the Springfield 1816 Musket, flintlock to rimfire!!!
Then the Model 1865 Rifle, Allin Conversion of Springfield Model 1861 percussion musket to .58 Rimfire, First Model Allin.
Then the Second Model Allin Conversion of 1866, using Springfield Model 1863 percussion muskets, to .50 cal. centerfire, 50-70 Govt, with new .50-cal barrels, instead of barrel liner,
mass produced for USA from 1868 through 1872,
until 45-70 Govt. of 1873.

.395 H&H: Rip
An oddball for an oddball.

29 June 2011, 07:11
Cross LMy apologies RIP,
of course you are correct, I was ID'ing the rifle and not the cartridge.
SSR
29 June 2011, 07:44
blackbearhunter4 bore - Tom the safarikid
375H&H=P.H.Capstick
577 T rex-saeed
7mm rem.mag.& 243win.-warren page
405win-T.R.Roosevelt
35whelen-Townsend whelen
44spl.-skeeter
45colt-Jessie James/John Wayne
22-Annie Oakley
45-60/Tom Horn
45-70/Quigley
41mag.& 44magnum-Elmer Keith
357mag.-Jordon
7x57-WDM Bell
275.rigby-Corbett
260-Carmichel
29 June 2011, 07:48
prof242Well, if RIP is taking the .395 H&H, I, Max, will lay claim to the .395 Max. However, as far as caliber, RIP is THE GRANDFATHER of the .395 and a legend for this hugely popular size.

.395 Family Member
DRSS, po' boy member
Political correctness is nothing but liberal enforced censorship
29 June 2011, 08:26
Cane Ratquote:
Originally posted by shootaway:
458 lott-shootaway

Thanks for that! Gave me a chuckle

"RIP is THE GRANDFATHER of the .395 and a legend for this
hugely popular size."

500 Jeffery Improved: Harald Wolf and Tony Sanchez-Arino
Quigley didn't use a 45-70.