I was out on my Saturday bike ride last week, my knee's were sore for some reason. It was windy so I just attributed it to that.

Sunday, my lower back was hurting. I took note but still just figured with getting old...

Monday, went to work, sat at my desk and just didn't feel right. Not sick, just different. I called my business partner and told him I was going home and going to get a Covid test.

Tested positive Tuesday.

Up to now, only sore lower back and some slight nausea. No cough, no loss of taste or smell.

Anyone else?

I had about 4 days of feeling "off". Maybe at 75%. No fever, no chills, no cough. Didn't want to eat much and bowels were watery. Kinda like the flu for me. Wife added a fever and chills to the above. We were lucky compared to some from what I've read. Some seemly healthy people it just flat kills....
Bruce

Only two people I know who got it lost their sense of taste.

Non felt bad really.

Glad you are ok.

I thought I had a minor head cold. If you really have immunity for 3 or more months after having it I wish I could have been infected sooner. Don

I got it in December. Still don't really have my sense of smell back....otherwise, other than some aches a couple days and a HALF A FREAKING DEGREE OF FEVER, I had nothing.

One of my partners got it but has ZERO symptoms.

I know several who have gotten it who have lost their sense of taste and/or smell.

One client who is slim and it great shape lost 22 pounds in 2 weeks. Two months later, he is still weak.

A friend who is in his 40's and in shape got it and was dead in 4 days.

Hang in there brother! Take this serious.

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Originally posted by larryshores:
One of my partners got it but has ZERO symptoms.

I know several who have gotten it who have lost their sense of taste and/or smell.

One client who is slim and it great shape lost 22 pounds in 2 weeks. Two months later, he is still weak.

A friend who is in his 40's and in shape got it and was dead in 4 days.

Hang in there brother! Take this serious.

Larry -

I am taking it seriously. I personally know 5 people who have perished. I'm doing Emergen-C daily, Zinc and vitamins. I always have eaten right, so no issues there.

My (our) biggest worry is our son, Brian. As you know he's disabled and we both believe this would kill him. We are taking this so serious, that I have not been inside my home for nearly 11 months.

I am fortunate enough to have a separate guest Casita and have been living in there. Brian got his first vaccine, yesterday.

I started a Trophy Room project today that I've been putting off. I have lots of fish reproduction mounts. I had them sorta all over. I have an alcove that had three full mounts in it. I moved them all out, pulled all the fish down and patched holes. I'm waiting for the spackle to dry, sand it then paint.

Problem now is the Bongo mount and two others need to go upstairs. Haven't really figured that one out yet.

I'm better every day. Thanks

Steve

Caught it in middle of January in Europe
Was out for a week with achiness, absolutely no energy, cold and cough, slight dizziness, everything tasted like a handful of salt so I dint eat for few days and another week I nursed kinda deep cough
Became expert with remote control on the couch ...
After that all good
Back to home in MT completely healthy

I had it October, I was functional after ten days but barely. Still get tired late in the day. No fever but had severe cough for several weeks, back pain, chills, sweats, restlessness and pretty extreme shortness of breath for several days, most likely should have went to the hospital but i didn't. I am getting some taste back but smell is still pretty weak. The guy I got it from perished, he was 66 and healthy. I am not the pillar of health, blood pressure is a tick high, overweight, probably high cholesterol, 25 plus year cancer survivor, spots on my lungs from grain dust in my youth. I think the China Virus has damaged my lungs more but not sure yet, the real test is when I head to 10,000 feet next week to go snowmobiling.

It can be more of a challenge for some than other's, I hope the vaccine prove's to work and immunity is lasting after the first infection

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:
I was out on my Saturday bike ride last week, my knee's were sore for some reason. It was windy so I just attributed it to that.

Sunday, my lower back was hurting. I took note but still just figured with getting old...

Monday, went to work, sat at my desk and just didn't feel right. Not sick, just different. I called my business partner and told him I was going home and going to get a Covid test.

Tested positive Tuesday.

Up to now, only sore lower back and some slight nausea. No cough, no loss of taste or smell.

Anyone else?

As long you don't get the viral pneumonia or blood clots you should be ok.

A very close friend of mine is a trauma surgeon in NYC.

He got it at work, but just got the clotting. Treated himself with blood thinners, ACE inhibitors. Wouldn't go on a ventilator as the long term damage from the things is horrendous.

He said now he would take the monoclonal antibodies and the new treatment the Israelis have developed. It's amazing in small scale trials.

Both his aunt and uncle died of it (he didn't infect them)

And a very close friend of 36 and ICU nurse caught a huge viral load at the hospital and was dead in 4 days.

Look after yourself and your son mate.

Wife lost half her hair and sense of smell, was pretty sick, (but stayed home) for about a week. If I had it we'll never know. I Tested negative same time she tested positive.

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My Father-in-law Died on 1-5-21.
My has Mother-in-law survived thus far.

Covid was brought into their home by a denier as they were terrified to go out.

He is among the 492,038 US Covid dead as of today.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:
I was out on my Saturday bike ride last week, my knee's were sore for some reason. It was windy so I just attributed it to that.

Sunday, my lower back was hurting. I took note but still just figured with getting old...

Monday, went to work, sat at my desk and just didn't feel right. Not sick, just different. I called my business partner and told him I was going home and going to get a Covid test.

Tested positive Tuesday.

Up to now, only sore lower back and some slight nausea. No cough, no loss of taste or smell.

Anyone else?

The exact symptoms of a client of mine...went to the doctor mainly for the lower back soreness.

A friend of the family just came down with it last week. In her fifties, not fit, and with pre-existing conditions.

She is now on a ventilator in the ICU. Only 90% oxygen levels. We are terribly worried for her.

This thing is so hard to predict. One person sneezes a few times, the next one dies. But age, being out of shape and having pre-existing conditions seem to be key factors in morbidity.

I hope your symptoms remain mild and you recover completely and quickly.

All the best,

About six people I know well have died from it. Some has prior conditions while some did not or it wasn’t known. Many others have got it and were sick most recovering but about half still have issues. My opinion is this is serious and every precaution should be taken I am waiting for my second vaccination coming up in a week or so.

Then there is my mother and father in law. My FIL was a 4 pack a day smoker his whole adult life. He is now home ridden with COPD and can’t walk to the bathroom without O2 insufflation. He gets to coughing sometimes and turns blue.

His wife (my MIL) has tried to be careful outside of the home but caught it a few weeks ago. She was never real sick but didn’t feel well for a few days and when he (FIL) started feeling bad...she went to the doctor and got tested. She was positive. The doctor put them both on azithromycin and hydroxychloroquin. He also had them take zinc and vit D. They started both feeling better in 48 hrs and are fine.

We all had thought all year if FIL gets it...he is gone. While we are happy as heck...it doesn’t make sense. Course he never went in and got tested...but had same symptoms as positive MIL and they live in a small farm house.

There really is no rhyme or reason to the severity of infection or the symptoms, it seems.

I've been very surprised at the test results in folks at times- one guy I was certain had it, no.

Others I didn't think had anything significant were positive.

Its hard to deal with in that respect.

Good luck to you, and stay safe!

I never got tested, but pretty sure I had it early on. I felt like 30 years had been added to my age overnight. I’m now 44 and was in relatively good shape prior, but I don’t have the extra gears like I did before what may have been the coronavirus.

It felt like a had a massive hangover for about a week with just a slight fever. I could hardly get out of bed to walk my dog and sometimes she couldn’t hold it as long. That was the worst feeling, as she thought she al had done wrong, but it was my fault.

The back pain is ever present for me.

I find it amazing that no one has died from the flu this year and no one has had it....

Must be a miracle....

I had it in November. A mild case. Had all of symptoms except fever, sore throat and headache. Was tired for a day and a half. Mostly evident was the loss of smell and taste. That lasted two weeks before it started coming back. Finally tested negative three weeks later after first testing positive. Was re-exposed a month later due to my hair cutting/stylist having it and not realizing it. I quarantined for another week and tested negative again.

I caught it from an unexpected visitor, my nephew brought his girlfriend to our house. The girlfriend had covid, but was unaware because she had no symptoms.

As for me I basically had no symptoms at all, except for the loss of smell for about a week. I had no fevers or body aches. During my quarantine I went on early morning 2 mile runs (alone). My wife and daughter did not have covid, so I was trapped in the guest room for 14 days with my work computers.

My wife and daughter never did get the virus. My wife tested negative 3 or 4 times. My daughter has had about dozen negative tests because she now get tested weekly at her university.

I am sure I caught it in March last year though I never went for a test to confirm.

My symptoms were a rather sore throat which was unusual for me as I don't have tonsils and am rather immune (for unknown reasons) to the common colds and bronchitis that affects most people; a slight temperature and runny nose, all of which lasted about a week.

My chemist prescribed me the usual 5 day treatment of antibiotics which took care of the issue but left me with that "washed out" feeling for another week.

Both my kids got zapped this year, my daughter who tested positive was bed-ridden for about a week and was prescribed Orelox 200 + paracetamol , Vit. C, D and Zinc tablets. She too was left draiined of energy for about a week.

My son, who had left Dar just before Xmas for Tampa got zapped shortly after arriving from his host and hostess who were both infected; it hit him very lightly and he recovered without too much fanfare.

Azithromycin and Orelox 200 are the most commonly prescribed meds here in Dar and doctors are pretty much adamant in advising patients to take Vit. C, D and Zinc as a preventive course of action though not a guarantee in preventing but if affected offers the chances of a milder whack.

Several of my friends were infected and all recovered though a few ended up having to be put on oxygen as their normal count dropped to drastic levels.

In early April 2020 I and my doc thought I had the flu.

On 20 April I was feeling really bad. I woke up from a nap feeling like I had been trampled by a herd of buff. I used my fingertip pulse ox he insisted that I buy and it read 74. Anything below 90 is bad. I called him on his cell and he said call 911 or you are dead in 2 hours.

Thus began my oddesy.

I live 25 min outside Denver. In 12 minutes my rural ambulance company had me on a gurney and an ox gym mask in my face going full blast. By the time we arrived at the hospital 40 minutes later they had 2 sticks in and an IV going and everything called in for my arrival at the ER.

This was early days of Covid so the hydrated me and got me on oxygen and moved me to a private room.

After 3 days of vomiting and direah they told me I tested positive for Covid and said they needed to do some treatments and here sign these consent forms. (I saw them later and they were electronic and it looked like I had drug my fingers across them.

This was April 24 th and I rennet watching Tac as I was falling asleep.

The next aware thoughts I had were these:

Why am I choking to death/being waterboarded?

Why can’t I speak?

WTF why can’t I move my hands and get what the hell why am I in restraints?

Ok what the hell why are their Memorial Day sales on the TV?

There was a nurse there and all I remember her says was “hi sweetie good to see you awake”.

The docs and more nurses came in.


I learned later it was May 16th

I had been in a coma for 22 days according to the records they went over with me much later. I was choking/ feeling like I was being waterboarded because I had been on a ventilator for 22 days and would remain on it for several more days. This was also the reason I couldn’t speak. It would be 3 more weeks before I could even whisper because of damage to my vocal chords from the ventilator.

I felt like I was restrained because I was so that I would not self extubate and had I had my hands free I damn sure would have.

I learned later that I had had 2 rounds of plasma therapy ,Remdisiver, I think Hydroxyhycloriquin, enough drugs to kill Keith Richards and had had enough of my blood replaced to again rival Keith Richards. At this point I was also on constant dialysis. Ie that machine was running 24/7. A few days later they extubated me and my blood work let them move me to dialysis once every 3 days and they told me inwoukd be one it the rest of my life. All I could think was crap no more African hunting for me.

What saved me was an experimental treatment called Cytosorb. They had tried it as a last ditch treatment on 13 previous patients and it didn’t save them. I was the first.

I do recall one thing vividly.

After they extubated me a nurse gave me my first tiny little ice chip and it was finer than any meal I have eaten in my life.

After 49 days in the hospital with an amazing medical staff I was released and transported to a rehab facility. They weighed me before I left and I was 181 pounds. I came in at 254.

Rehab was another long story but I will say they were also nothing short of amazing.

Onw funny thing that happened was one of my PT folks was a guy named Craig. Turned out I had referred him playing rugby in college and he recognized me because of all of the rugby stuff friends and former players had sent me. The next morning he walked in and tossed me a rugby ball. If you want to hear about a grown man breaking down in tears that was it.

Because if the muscle atrophy I had to somewhat learn to walk again and they spent 24 days helping me learn to do things again and get stronger.

I will you cannot imagine the sheer joy of finally being helped to a real toilet and using it on your own after 2 months of crapping through a tube and using a bedpan.

They finally released me on June 30th and I went home where my sister came in from out of state to help me for 3 weeks till I could get around and care for myself.

I also had a good friend who drove over to my house every day for the e tire time I was sick which is roughly 104 miles round trip and would t even take gas money. I did manager to sandbag him and he now owns a suppressor courtesy of me and a 5 month wait with the ATF.


There are a lot more details I have left out for the sake of brevity but I am alive by the grace of God and some amazing medical staff.


Also my best friend who is on AR but I forget his handle took the time every single day to call and get my medical condition from the doctors and nurses and then no matter how long it took to help her understand called my 88 year old mother and explained to her in words she could understand what my condition and prognosis was and kept her from freaking out. That is another debt I can never repay.

I had two guests duck hunting with me for a couple days in mid January; and a few days after they left, one of them called to tell me that both of them tested positive for COVID the day before. They had mild symptoms, scratchy throat, mild but persistent headache, back a little sore and feeling rundown with no energy.

I immediately made alternate arrangements for my other guests and headed home. When I spoke with my doctor about getting tested, I was asked my symptoms and explained them as outlined above since I was experiencing the same things as the other two fellows. Doctor said don’t bother getting tested as I’d have to self-quarantine whether I tested positive or not. Said if I developed more serious symptoms to call back immediately. Said if I suddenly started getting really sick, go straight to hospital without delay.

Doc said to take increased vitamins and zinc, stay hydrated and get plenty of rest. That was all easy since I already take vitamins and other supplements daily. I wanted a nap every day. I asked Doc about taking hydroxycloroquin and azithromycin, which I had purchased on trips abroad, and doc said NO. Doc said it doesn’t work and New England Journal of Medicine had article out to stay away from it. Doc also made a point of telling me all the dangers of taking hydroxycloroquin, including potential bad effects on the heart.

So, I quarantined, took hydroxycloroquin & azythromycin (against Doctor’s advice), zinc, a bunch of other vitamins and never has more than mild symptoms. Quarantine period ended January 27. I never had more than mild symptoms and never got tested. Strange thing is, I’m still having mild headaches and get tired easily. Still feel kinda run down and out of breath more easily than normal.

One funny aside about hydroxycloroquin... I was on the phone with Roy Vincent’s wife, Rene, a few days after talking to the doc and when I told her about the doc’s warning against taking hydroxycloroquin, she cracked up laughing. She said that she and Roy took Cloroquin, and then hydroxycloroquin, for decades as malaria prophylaxis. It never had any effects, other than not getting malaria.

I got it in February of last year (2020). I'm a surgeon, and had a medical student from China (she had just gotten here) rotate on my service.
I felt like I had a pretty good flu, and had to miss a day of work; symptoms lasted about 10 days.

Funny thing is I tried to report it to the Department of Health, and was told it couldn't be COVID as the student didn't come from Wuhan province (bullshit).

I wsnted to test to see if I had cellular immunity, so in July I deliberately infected myself from one of my patients with confirmed COVID.
I didn't get sick, but felt a little run-down.
The day my energy level got back to normal (3 days of feeling run down but no fever) I lost my sense of smell (which returned after about 3-4 months).

It was stupid to lock down otherwise healthy populations, but it would have been wise to quarantine/protect vulnerable populations.
My father was 93 when he got it, and had lots of concomitant disease (dementia, aortic stenosis, etc), but he got it from a visiting healthcare nurse.

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Originally posted by N. Garrett:
I got it in February of last year (2020). I'm a surgeon, and had a medical student from China (she had just gotten here) rotate on my service.
I felt like I had a pretty good flu, and had to miss a day of work; symptoms lasted about 10 days.

Funny thing is I tried to report it to the Department of Health, and was told it couldn't be COVID as the student didn't come from Wuhan province (bullshit).

I wsnted to test to see if I had cellular immunity, so in July I deliberately infected myself from one of my patients with confirmed COVID.
I didn't get sick, but felt a little run-down.
The day my energy level got back to normal (3 days of feeling run down but no fever) I lost my sense of smell (which returned after about 3-4 months).

It was stupid to lock down otherwise healthy populations, but it would have been wise to quarantine/protect vulnerable populations.
My father was 93 when he got it, and had lots of concomitant disease (dementia, aortic stenosis, etc), but he got it from a visiting healthcare nurse.

I think you nailed it with your comment “It was stupid to lockdown otherwise healthy populations, but it would have been wise to quarantine/protect vulnerable populations”.

Our government, and most others around the world, have taken a shotgun approach (skeet choke at that!) to fighting this virus. A precision rifle approach would have likely been better.

I have a relative on the faculty of the medical school at Ohio State University, where he runs their pulmonary critical care unit at the hospital. OSU has done a great deal of research on this virus. He advised family members about a year ago that the best way to avoid COVID was to stay away from those who are coughing, sneezing or sick. Also told us that washing our hands regularly would be one of the smartest things we could do, saying we’d likely avoid the Flu too if we took these measures. I think that’s still pretty solid advice.

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Originally posted by DLS:
Strange thing is, I’m still having mild headaches and get tired easily. Still feel kinda run down and out of breath more easily than normal.

Hear that quite a lot, not very strange. It seems quite a few people are left with inflammatory reactions in their bodies for quite a while. Those suck energy, and make you tired and run down. It will get better, just takes some time. Just keep taking the vitamins!

I tested positive for covid on December 14th the only symptoms I got was a runny nose, a tickle in my throat, and some aches and pains, but got no fever. I never lost taste or smell and felt fine for most of time could have went to work but was forced to quarantine for 10 days meanwhile a coworker of mine who got it was on a ventilator for 2 months and died, it's very odd who gets very ill and dies and those who don't! I have several comorbidities one being a dialysis patient and the other being diabetic. I was certain that I would get very ill but I am a Opositive blood type and I've heard that O's are less affected by the virus! I do feel that God blessed me by not Getting very sick, it really has changed my whole outlook on life!

It’s amazing how they engineered this virus to affect people in different ways.

Sorry for a very PFy post! Haha...

A virus unable to kill many people in 130+ 3rd world countries, also barely touches half the 1st world, (including countries who didnt bother locking down) yet does most of the damage in just the largest 1st world countries with the best medical systems of all. They should make a movie about it. We will need someone to write a D-grade sci-fi plot about a virus smart enough to target select countries economies...

They got this across the line because people are too stupid to manage 8th grade geography anymore. 2 billion people in the world cant lock down or socially distance, (hint: when you have no plumbing or power you need to access crowded water points and markets 3x per day) This thing should have killed 50 million by now. To date its rating between Diaorhea and TB for global deaths. Not even 6th place for actual problems..

The biggest problem is the food supply and global shutdowns are now placing 250 million into starvation risk, 7000 kids a day dying as we speak. Not to mention the fact we have just handed our own kids a bill with great depression stamped on it. A hell of a price to pay to save a few % of geriatrics...

A virus so dangerous you have to take a test to find out if you have it.Countries borrowing many trillions of dollars from private banks, big pharma making astronomical profits, no one allowed to ask questions etc...The past two years have been the only two in many years in which I have not been sick with anything.Before that I was being hit really hard with a virus or viruses every year and a few times I was lucky enough to have survived.Just before and during my last trip to Makuti in 2018 I was taking antibiotics and my throat had nearly shut.After I got back from that trip everything changed for the better.I believe that the trip did my mind good and health followed suit.I need to get back there for some more vitamins.

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Originally posted by Ready Aim Shoot:
A virus so dangerous you have to take a test to find out if you have it.Countries borrowing many trillions of dollars from private banks, big pharma making astronomical profits, no one allowed to ask questions etc...

Dont forget those who are seeing some good out of this virus. The billionaires who's net worth is doubling every 6 months as they hoover up the remains of middle class small business. Musk, Bezos, gates and the gang are going to have to invent new numbers soon just to name their net worth Gazillionaires?

And politicians are already talking 'economic recovery programs' on TV LOL. Good heavens, recovery? The damage hasnt even arrived yet. You will know the 'recovery' when it occurs because its when the superinflation and taxation we are in for starts to die down , if we are lucky, after 10-20 years.

I couldn’t say it better Karl

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Originally posted by Karl:

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Originally posted by Ready Aim Shoot:
A virus so dangerous you have to take a test to find out if you have it.Countries borrowing many trillions of dollars from private banks, big pharma making astronomical profits, no one allowed to ask questions etc...

Dont forget those who are seeing some good out of this virus. The billionaires who's net worth is doubling every 6 months as they hoover up the remains of middle class small business. Musk, Bezos, gates and the gang are going to have to invent new numbers soon just to name their net worth Gazillionaires?

And politicians are already talking 'economic recovery programs' on TV LOL. Good heavens, recovery? The damage hasnt even arrived yet. You will know the 'recovery' when it occurs because its when the superinflation and taxation we are in for starts to die down , if we are lucky, after 10-20 years.

Damn you sound like a Bernie socialist.

If you believe all you opinions do something about it. Start a hedge fund and short the long bond and all other wonders of modern finance and become a billionaire where you can fly private and not worry about the unwashed masses

But I would look at all the AR members who caught covid and see the bad hand dealt to some of them.

We got saved by an effective vaccine portfolio built largely on cutting edge mRNA vaccines.

Choose vaccination and be careful (social distancing , wearing a mask ect) - would suck to get covid when a vaccine is already here.

Given the South African strain

https://www.jpost.com/health-s...ous-condition-658907

I would not be betting on African hunting conning back full swing in 2021. The US domestically will do fine but everywhere South Africa touches in Southern Africa - zim moz Namibia Botswana will be touch and go in 2021.

Mike

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Originally posted by Beretta682E:

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Originally posted by Karl:

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Originally posted by Ready Aim Shoot:
A virus so dangerous you have to take a test to find out if you have it.Countries borrowing many trillions of dollars from private banks, big pharma making astronomical profits, no one allowed to ask questions etc...

Dont forget those who are seeing some good out of this virus. The billionaires who's net worth is doubling every 6 months as they hoover up the remains of middle class small business. Musk, Bezos, gates and the gang are going to have to invent new numbers soon just to name their net worth Gazillionaires?

And politicians are already talking 'economic recovery programs' on TV LOL. Good heavens, recovery? The damage hasnt even arrived yet. You will know the 'recovery' when it occurs because its when the superinflation and taxation we are in for starts to die down , if we are lucky, after 10-20 years.

Damn you sound like a Bernie socialist.

If you believe all you opinions do something about it. Start a hedge fund and short the long bond and all other wonders of modern finance and become a billionaire where you can fly private and not worry about the unwashed masses

But I would look at all the AR members who caught covid and see the bad hand dealt to some of them.

We got saved by an effective vaccine portfolio built largely on cutting edge mRNA vaccines.

Choose vaccination and be careful (social distancing , wearing a mask ect) - would suck to get covid when a vaccine is already here.

Given the South African strain

https://www.jpost.com/health-s...ous-condition-658907

I would not be betting on African hunting conning back full swing in 2021. The US domestically will do fine but everywhere South Africa touches in Southern Africa - zim moz Namibia Botswana will be touch and go in 2021.

Mike

Who is in charge of Southern Africa these days, Africans or Chinese?

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Damn you sound like a Bernie socialist.

Sorry, no interest in your politicians, nor any low grade extremetism they brainwash you with. Ive lived in a few 1st and 3rd world countries and if ive learnt anything its anyone screaming about the "damned left wing" or "damned right ring" is failing an IQ test called independant thought...

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If you believe all you opinions do something about it. Start a hedge fund and short the long bond and all other wonders of modern finance and become a billionaire where you can fly private and not worry about the unwashed masses.But I would look at all the AR members who caught covid and see the bad hand dealt to some of them.

Ask fellas on AR? lol How about ask the whole world.

There are vastly diverse populations abroad, 2 billion couldnt lock down at all( no plumbing means access crowded communal water or die in 48 hours), no masks in mine, some of the 1st world barely locked down at all.

We have a virus that causes less damage than TB or diaorhea across the globe yet somehow targets 3-4 of the largest economies with unsually high death counts.

The only conclusion I can draw is maybe the virus needs Italian restaurants, US dollars and British pounds to feed...

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We got saved by an effective vaccine portfolio built largely on cutting edge mRNA vaccines. Choose vaccination and be careful (social distancing , wearing a mask ect) - would suck to get covid when a vaccine is already here.

If the US wants to address a real pandemic, mandate a nationally adminstered appetite suppressant. You lose 1.5 million a year to diabetes, cancer, stroke and heart disease related to being one of the fattest races on earth. The rest of the western world is almost as bad. We'd save so many people in one year we'd need to fucking invade Africa to house them all.

Look out Saeed

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Originally posted by Beretta682E:

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Originally posted by Karl:

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Originally posted by Ready Aim Shoot:
A virus so dangerous you have to take a test to find out if you have it.Countries borrowing many trillions of dollars from private banks, big pharma making astronomical profits, no one allowed to ask questions etc...

Dont forget those who are seeing some good out of this virus. The billionaires who's net worth is doubling every 6 months as they hoover up the remains of middle class small business. Musk, Bezos, gates and the gang are going to have to invent new numbers soon just to name their net worth Gazillionaires?

And politicians are already talking 'economic recovery programs' on TV LOL. Good heavens, recovery? The damage hasnt even arrived yet. You will know the 'recovery' when it occurs because its when the superinflation and taxation we are in for starts to die down , if we are lucky, after 10-20 years.

Damn you sound like a Bernie socialist.

If you believe all you opinions do something about it. Start a hedge fund and short the long bond and all other wonders of modern finance and become a billionaire where you can fly private and not worry about the unwashed masses

But I would look at all the AR members who caught covid and see the bad hand dealt to some of them.

We got saved by an effective vaccine portfolio built largely on cutting edge mRNA vaccines.

Choose vaccination and be careful (social distancing , wearing a mask ect) - would suck to get covid when a vaccine is already here.

Given the South African strain

https://www.jpost.com/health-s...ous-condition-658907

I would not be betting on African hunting conning back full swing in 2021. The US domestically will do fine but everywhere South Africa touches in Southern Africa - zim moz Namibia Botswana will be touch and go in 2021.

Mike

I would say with travel restrictions being implemented because of the SA strain, and lack of vaccinating in that region, the 2021 season won't be much better than the 2020 season.

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Originally posted by Beretta682E:

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Originally posted by Karl:

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Originally posted by Ready Aim Shoot:
A virus so dangerous you have to take a test to find out if you have it.Countries borrowing many trillions of dollars from private banks, big pharma making astronomical profits, no one allowed to ask questions etc...

Dont forget those who are seeing some good out of this virus. The billionaires who's net worth is doubling every 6 months as they hoover up the remains of middle class small business. Musk, Bezos, gates and the gang are going to have to invent new numbers soon just to name their net worth Gazillionaires?

And politicians are already talking 'economic recovery programs' on TV LOL. Good heavens, recovery? The damage hasnt even arrived yet. You will know the 'recovery' when it occurs because its when the superinflation and taxation we are in for starts to die down , if we are lucky, after 10-20 years.

Damn you sound like a Bernie socialist.

If you believe all you opinions do something about it. Start a hedge fund and short the long bond and all other wonders of modern finance and become a billionaire where you can fly private and not worry about the unwashed masses

But I would look at all the AR members who caught covid and see the bad hand dealt to some of them.

We got saved by an effective vaccine portfolio built largely on cutting edge mRNA vaccines.

Choose vaccination and be careful (social distancing , wearing a mask ect) - would suck to get covid when a vaccine is already here.

Given the South African strain

https://www.jpost.com/health-s...ous-condition-658907

I would not be betting on African hunting conning back full swing in 2021. The US domestically will do fine but everywhere South Africa touches in Southern Africa - zim moz Namibia Botswana will be touch and go in 2021.

Mike

I would say with travel restrictions being implemented because of the SA strain, and lack of vaccinating in that region, the 2021 season won't be much better than the 2020 season.

Would you not say that the band that incorporates Namibia, Zambia, Zimbabwe, and Mozambique has proven to have a very low mortality rate.

The symptoms of the South African variant seem mild north of the Limpopo.

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Originally posted by Ready Aim Shoot:
A virus so dangerous you have to take a test to find out if you have it.Countries borrowing many trillions of dollars from private banks, big pharma making astronomical profits, no one allowed to ask questions etc...

Dont forget those who are seeing some good out of this virus. The billionaires who's net worth is doubling every 6 months as they hoover up the remains of middle class small business. Musk, Bezos, gates and the gang are going to have to invent new numbers soon just to name their net worth Gazillionaires?

And politicians are already talking 'economic recovery programs' on TV LOL. Good heavens, recovery? The damage hasnt even arrived yet. You will know the 'recovery' when it occurs because its when the superinflation and taxation we are in for starts to die down , if we are lucky, after 10-20 years.

Damn you sound like a Bernie socialist.

If you believe all you opinions do something about it. Start a hedge fund and short the long bond and all other wonders of modern finance and become a billionaire where you can fly private and not worry about the unwashed masses

But I would look at all the AR members who caught covid and see the bad hand dealt to some of them.

We got saved by an effective vaccine portfolio built largely on cutting edge mRNA vaccines.

Choose vaccination and be careful (social distancing , wearing a mask ect) - would suck to get covid when a vaccine is already here.

Given the South African strain

https://www.jpost.com/health-s...ous-condition-658907

I would not be betting on African hunting conning back full swing in 2021. The US domestically will do fine but everywhere South Africa touches in Southern Africa - zim moz Namibia Botswana will be touch and go in 2021.

Mike

I would say with travel restrictions being implemented because of the SA strain, and lack of vaccinating in that region, the 2021 season won't be much better than the 2020 season.

Do you take pleasure in giving bad news?

2021 travel seasons and bad news? We just caused an economic recession, possibly a depression, and folks are worried whether they can fly somewhere for a vacation.... The damage that has been done means whether you are allowed to get abroad will become secondary to whether you can afford to.