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I hope this is not too stupid of question.
Situation: I work in Africa, currently Rwanda, most of the year. Cannot bring my firearms. That said, I see these hunts that I could be on in no time once I have the logistics arranged.
Question: It chokes me to ask when I have a safe full of rifles but are rental rifles available with most outfitters for large game? Or, is there a method of bonded shipping to/from the US where I could have my rifles delivered and returned.
Frankly, I'm tired of missed opportunities to hunt just because I don't have my rifles. I'm not getting any younger.
Thanks and hope this isn't a bothersome question.
Jeff


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Posts: 70 | Location: Rwanda via Indiana | Registered: 07 February 2005Reply With Quote
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It would be problematic to ship your rifle(s). Many of the larger and some of the smaller outfits will have rental or loaner rifles available. Ask before you book! Book a hunt, you will not regret it!


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I would think that even if an outfit doesn't normally have rifles for rent that when you explained your situation and that problem was all that was keeping you from booking with them, they would be able to come up with a solution.


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Thanks, gents. I figured a rental or borrower wouldn't be that difficult. Just didn't know if some of the outfitters had a "license" to hold clients guns. Now to sell some guns and stockpile some more funds. Those Zim/Moz hunts pulled the trigger for preparations.


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Jeff,

I don't know of a practical way to send your guns ahead to a safari operator. Each country including the US has its own regulations that may stand in the way of what might seem a very straight forward process.

Every operator will probably have guns to rent but the quality, maintenance and available ammo for those firearms can vary greatly. Ask you operator exactly what he has.

Most important is to definitely book something. There really is nothing quite like being on safari.

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Jeff,
Go hunting - book, and take advantage of all these good offers that pops up.
I've hunted a good number of times in New Caledonia, New Zealand, Australia, England, Scotland, Canada, and 3 countries in Africa with hire / borrowed rifles provided by the owner / outfitter.
I've only been let down ones when I had a very mixed bag of ammo provided.
I use the following 5 rules of tumbs when using a "non my" rifle:
1 - check that the scope mounts are solidly attached - use force to check this.
2 - dry fire the rifle a good number of times so you are confortable with the trigger and safety, they are all very different.
3 - Mount the rifle untold number of times till you are sick of it, it has to feel natural when it touches shoulder and cheek.
4 - check each piece of ammo to make sure it is the same make and bullet.
5 - check the rifle on the range however primitive it is set-up, don't accept the guides word for that it is "spot one" - it may be, but check.

Good hunting - go for it.

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Again, thanks gents. You have verified my thoughts. Good advice huntfish. In eight years living here I've found that "maintenance" doesn't mean the same thing as sometimes expected.
Mr. Young, your postings started this. It will take a bit of time but I hope to book some trips within the next year or so.
Best to all,
Jeff


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Another quick note: ITAR regs have kicked me in the teeth several times in my work. Simple things like front sight adjustment tools get confiscated and dealing with folks who don't know the generational differences with other non-firearm equipment.
Hence the question about bonded shipping for private firearms.
Again, appreciate the input.


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Jeff, every outfit I've dealt with in Africa offers rental firearms. Depending upon your needs, .22 Hornet up to large bore rifles can be rented. Each PH will have a different mix but it should be no problem for you to sort out what rifles/calibers they have, condition of said firearms, scoped or open sights and the quantity and brand/components of ammo. The average rental price of each long gun is $20-$30 per day with ammo running $3 per round on small to mid calibers. Since you mention booking a hunt in the future, contact a few agents or outfits directly and ask what their fees are. As mentioned in previous posts, shipping your own firearms ahead opens the door to all kinds of problems, primarily due to you not being there to claim/register them upon arrival. Deal with reputable persons and you should be fine. LDK


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Slightly off topic, but what kind of work are you doing in Rwanda?


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