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I for one am relieved that MS hammered that 7,000-lb bull between the eyes.......  "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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Thanks LJS, at least we now have a couple of different perspectives on the fellow and thankfully from folks who, as you say have actually hunted with Sullivan. John Sharp in a loin cloth? I can live with that. No doubt not as much of a shock as running into Pondoro in the old days, he quite often wore nothing. Judging from the photos that I have seen of Mr Sharp, he is built like Tarzan and I think would no doubt suit that attire. I for one, would not like to be the fellow to tell him, "it's not a good look"!!! | |||
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remind me never to get on you guys wrong side. I like some, only know what I have been told by, he said, she said. I am sure he is like most of us. A great guy sometimes and a shit other times. Don't like his movies and I don't buy them... NRA LIFE MEMBER DU DIAMOND SPONSOR IN PERPETUITY DALLAS SAFARI CLUB LIFE MEMBER SCI FOUNDATION MEMBER | |||
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Everybody is entitled to their own opinion but, damn, sometimes what actually gets put in print sounds like it's sprinkled with a little jealousy. It was one of Sullivan's first videos that prompted me to go to Africa the first time. And yes, I own them all now. They are entertaining and fun to watch but it would take a damn fool to believe and attempt to practice everything he sees in one of the videos. I've never met him but I've seen him at one SCI convention. I'll never hunt with him, he's too expensive. Would I, if I could afford it? Probably not but, I'll bet I would have a great time if I did. Just because you don't agree with his tactics and methods doesn't mean he needs to be burned at the stake. This "hollier than thou" attitude subscribed to by some does more to hurt hunters and the sport than his videos. And as for this 7000 pound "hippalo" or "buffapotomus" refered to earlier...I'll take a dose of that!  Bull1 | |||
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Who needs more than this load of horse manure from his website to form an opinion? "I hunt dangerous game . . . on equal footing, allowing the animal to charge, testing my nerve and eye against Africa's most feared and deadly beasts. It is a well known fact that I do not hunt the way other professional hunters do. And I don't want to. My manner and method of hunting dangerous game is unique and I dismiss the notion of dispatching wounded Cape buffalo from a safe distance or from the back of a vehicle, when, with a bit more care, my client and I can walk up and give the bull the choice of how he is to die. Such hunting methods are certainly controversial and not for everyone, but I know that deep down in the heart of every hunter who goes to Africa, that he secretly wants to test his mettle against wounded Cape buffalo and the deadliest of them all, rogue bull hippo on dry land. . . . I deliberately walk up to wounded Cape buffalo and rogue bull hippo, challenging them on their own turf, just so I can hunt my way." What an oaf. This melodramatic crap would actually be pretty funny if it weren't so contemptible. No hunter worth his salt wants to "test his mettle" against a wounded anything. We all want, or should want, to make a clean kill, ideally with one shot. But not this clown. Who can discount the reports, many from those in a position to know, of how this "professional" deliberately wounds dozens of animals just to get some of them on film and sell his videos? And even when and if the wounding is unintentional, what self-respecting hunter would not shoot to kill a wounded animal at his first reasonable opportunity? Not this drama queen. He passes up excellent chances to end the animal's suffering, and waits until the camera is ready, and then drags it out for "dramatic" purposes and provokes a charge by the wounded beast, just so that he can get the creature's death on film for commercial and self-promoting purposes. That kind of thing is despicable and I make no apologies for holding firm to that opinion. I enjoy dangerous game hunting. But I would sooner chase butterflies with a net than hunt anything with this egotistical ass. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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Don't get me wrong! I'm no fan of Mark Sullivan, as anyone who knows me will attest. I'm probably one of his worse nightmares, and outspoken critics of his chest beating ego trips. My comment was strictly in regard the calling camp staff "BOYS" comment, nothing more!  ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith  | |||
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MacD37 I understood you. Thanks for the perspective. bull1 Who wouldn't be jealous of a man who get's to spend that much time hunting dangerous game in Tanzania? I know I am, but that doesn't affect my feelings about his ethics and professionalism. mrlexma pretty well sums it up with Mark's own words. There's no need for he said she said read/hear his words and watch his actions. Brett DRSS Life Member SCI Life Member NRA Life Member WSF Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick. And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too. May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep. May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip. -Seth Peterson | |||
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In my opinion, his own words condemn him and show his lack of respect for quick and humane kills. 465H&H | |||
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Just an observation: Clearly there seems to be a difference between the MS that we have seen on film and the MS that guides hunts that are not on camera. Too many people with whom he has hunted say that he is a helluva guy and a very good PH. Also, I am sure that he has made a lot of money filming all those charges but in the long run, he will probably regret it. Most African PHs, hell, any professional, wants to leave behind a good legacy and his will forever be one of controversy. Landrum | |||
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MS isn't that a crippling sickness?No Quarter Given Nor Asked | |||
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LOL!! That's damn funny!!  "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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Juging by Sullivan's DVD sales I think he too may have "provided a lot of entertainment" as well. | |||
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LJS Never seen a bad personal first hand report yet on any forum. Always good. Just a lot of people who watch the films and determine an neative opinion from the films. Huge difference. | |||
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I just got back from RSA/Zim yesterday. My PH said he was a little bit of a Sullivan fan for exactly the reason Bull1 described above, getting people interested in hunting Africa. No matter what one thinks of him, there are many who would have never thought of hunting Africa if it wasn't for him or PHC. Caleb | |||
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MS has the now infamous line " lets let him choose how he wants to die!" everytime I hear that line I got to crack-up --thats some funny crap ---right there! did anyone point out to the "smart" MS that the animal is going to die by bullet? What is the choice? Maybe MS asks the animal "gee is it O.K. if I shoot you --or do you prefer to die of old age?" Also--what do you think MS would do if when he asks the buff, "how he wants to die" --if the buff spoke back---Mark, put down that damn double and lets settle this score buff to man --hand to hand combat---no weapons-------now that would be a good video!!  got to love cheap intertainment  but I would never hunt with this clownnothin sweeter than the smell of fresh blood on your hunting boots | |||
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Rev Jimmy Swagart is a nice guy in church, but his antics when not in church pretty much over shadows his Sunday TV show! The mark of an ethical person has nothing to do with if anyone is watching, or not, or if the lack of said ethics makes him money! .......................BYE  ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith | |||
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I have talked with Mark Sullivan of 3 or 4 occasions, a couple of times for quite a while. He was very nice. you could tell that hunting was a passion with him and he liked double rifles. I did not find him to be a braggart, full of himself etc. I have talked to a person that has hunted with him twice [at that time], and he had nothing but high praise for him. I do know that one person in his videos has hunted with him several times. One thing to consider, on the Safaris where there is no "drama" they do not make the video. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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I hunted with Mark last fall and did not kwno what to expect from him or any other PH in the field. I really enjoed the hunt and the time in the fiel and camp. He runs a reaaly tight camp and does every thing to get your animal , hunt last up early and goes the extra mile to get you a great trophy. Even when his health is sub standard he goes out and pushes you and him hard. I saw this first hand on my safari. Before I went over Mark had come back to the states for some health issues. His doctor told him not to go and do the safari with me but he went anyway. He had about 70% blockage in one of his arteries in his heart. I did not know any thing about this untill in Africa. While hunting with him for the first 3 days he would start to take his nirto for this heart as he was starting to have problems. By the third day he was really terrible shape. I had killed my 2 41" bufafalos the first day and had all but one animal by the end of the third day. I was having a great time learning about the country and the area and really missed the other 7 days looking for the TOpi. But his health ment more to me to get him to the states for medical attention. So he flew out, I joined him as I did not want to hunt with another PH as he was who I booked with. He made it to Arizona and had 3 stints put in and ten days later he was back guiding as PH more groups. I am not sure how many other PH's out there would have done this. One foolish but two hunted hard even though they felt like shit and might die out there. I really felt cheated for missing the extra days and spending it in the field with him gaining knowledge of Africa. His hunting style is very controversial and he has made a name for his style. Some say that is foolish and some say that is the best marketing that any one can do. He takes chances and so far has won. He has sold a lot of videos and made it easier for other outfitters to get people interested in Africa. Both are good and both are bad. I bet that when he dies it will be on his terms just like he says about the animals that he gets to charge. He will die, but he will always be remembered for what he did and how he hunted. Good Or bad. He will be written about and read about for more years after his death just like Capstick is and was. He has his 15 minutes/seconds of fame over and over and has monopolised on it. Good? Bad? Smart markerting!! I missed out on those 7 days. He still is able to hunt his way. I expect he will always put his heart into every thing he does no matter how he feels or if he thinks it might just piss some one off. That is his way. I tend to use more than enough gun. | |||
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Put his "heart" into it. Interesting. I think now we have insight into why he does what he does and the way he does it. Maybe all this time he's known that he has a congenital heart condition. | |||
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and maybe he hunts this way because he is a JACKASS!!!!!!!!!! Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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This man must a glutton for punishment! Imagine you going on safari, and have the Ph shoot all your animals! Is this a new form of safari hunting? | |||
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"LJS" in his post listed somewhere above states that he knows 3 people who have hunted with M.S. a total of 5 times and during those hunts he (Sullivan) never fired a shot! There seems to be a lot of hysteria attached to this guy, I'm starting to believe quite a bit may be unwarranted. Obviously a few folks posting on this thread have the same opinion. | |||
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Perhaps he does take on a different personna when the cameras are rolling....... I just can't imagine that he sheds it completely when he is on safari and no one is filming him. I may be wrong....... "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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i am curious if Sullivan is a member of any of the PH organizations in the countries where he hunts. all of the organizations have canon of ethics regarding the safe, humane and ethical treatment of wounded animals which he violates on a regular basis- on film. if he is a member, how does he get away with it? he is essentially a market hunter, except that he hunts for the video market instead of the commercial meat market. Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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Doug I have seen you at many SCI conventions and I can understand exactly why you and MS got along so well on safari. | |||
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I have not and would never hunt with him. I don't approve of him letting some of the animals suffer instead of ending it quickly and humanely just for the sake of action footage. I realize hunting dangerous game is obviously dangerous and there is a certain thrill associated with it, but I don't believe that a PH should put his clients in harms way for the sake of it. Intentionally putting yourself in a dangerous situation for the sake of it is asking for it and is sheer stupidity. I will give him this, he can handle a big double, is a very cool customer and has BIG balls. All good qualities but used in a negative manner due to his style of hunting! | |||
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One of my closest hunting friends has hunted with MS on two occasions in Africa. He has also been Mark's guest a number of times on hunts here in the states. This gentleman has hunted a lot, and knows what a good camp is, what a good area is and what a good PH is too. We've visited at length about those safaris and Mark in general. MS has never fired a shot while my buddy hunted with him, and they killed many buffalo, a lion, leopard, hippo and other game. As others who have hunted with Mark can attest, he is a very intelligent man and an excellent hunter. He works hard for his clients and won't lie to them about game he may or may not be able to show them. It's the client's call on how things are to be conducted. He employs good staff and runs a very tight ship. Sullivan would have been considered a top class PH if it weren't for those damned idiotic videos he puts out, and the antics it takes to make them. I'm sure they've made him a lot of money, but they've also cost him. | |||
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JohnS (as usual) is exactly 100% spot on. I also know the gentleman he speaks of and that is exactly how it is. jorge USN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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I understand that MS hunts with quite a few newbie high dollar clients, and maybe they want him to shoot the game???? | |||
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Come on guys give it up,  I don't mean to come across as saint Dirk here but slanderous remarks which are false or exagerated, let's get above the frey here gentlemen.  "An individual with experience is never at the mercies of an individual with an argument" | |||
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if they are true, then it is not slander. Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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Thankfully a bit more sanity to stack up against some of the hysterical bullshit on this thread.  | |||
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pichon, there are guys on here who have competing outfitter businesses, openly or not, and like to put the knife in, no matter what the evidence is or not. | |||
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Hi Mate, ain't that the truth!! As the old saying goes, "me thinks they protest too much" How are the vines looking? Shit loads of rain over this side of the "fence". Things are looking OK, hope it's the same with you.  | |||
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