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Just got my copy of the Barnes Reloading Manual No.4 In the intro to the 577NE 3" Mark Sullivan writes: "Another time, my client and I were hunting a snake-infested korongo that I knew held many old bulls. Eventually, we found a massive bull standing his ground in heavy brush. We crept closer until the 7,000-pound bull was a scant 16 yards away. The bull put his head down and charged. In an instant, the enraged buffalo closed the distance to less than 10 feet. I hammered him between the eyes with a Barnes bullet from my Charles Osbourne .577 and the bull crashed to the ground."  A 7000 pound buffalo? Must have been from Zimbabwe and the inflation rate is now affecting the size of the animals.Have gun- Will travel The value of a trophy is computed directly in terms of personal investment in its acquisition. Robert Ruark | ||
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It was a hippalo? | |||
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Now thats funny! NRA Life Member DSC Life Member Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves. Ronald Reagan | |||
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I would not expect any else from Mark Sullivan! I think he does not know what the truth is, from seeing all his videos! | |||
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7000 pound cape buffalo?????????????????? IMO, BIG WIND COME FROM EMPTY CAVE!  ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith  | |||
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I thought you where not supposed to shot Barnes in old doubles? | |||
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Did the client get to shoot the bull also? Or do you just pay the four figure daily rates to watch Mark shoot the animals first and then you get to shoot afterwards? Paul Smith SCI Life Member NRA Life Member DSC Member Life Member of the "I Can't Wait to Get Back to Africa" Club DRSS I had the privilege to fire E. Hemingway's WR .577NE, E. Keith's WR .470NE, & F. Jamieson's WJJ .500 Jeffery I strongly recommend avoidance of "The Zambezi Safari & Travel Co., Ltd." and "Pisces Sportfishing-Cabo San Lucas" "A failed policy of national defense is its own punishment" Otto von Bismarck | |||
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Just consider the source, and that tells the whole story!  Judge if it wasn't a HIPPOLO, maybe it was a CAPEJUMBO!  ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith | |||
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ummm, gents, he was talking about hippos...jorge USN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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....and the hippo chose to die in mortal combat with the Great Bwana Mark.... | |||
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Nope it looks like he is talking about a buffalo... Gerhard FFF Safaris Capture Your African Moments Hunting Outfitter (MP&LP) Proffesional Hunter (MP&LP) History guide Wildlife Photographer www.fffsafaris.co.za | |||
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The grass must be more nutritious in snake-infested korongos. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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Must have been one of those snake-eating hippalo (snakes are high in protein, ya know). He failed to mention why the SEH was enraged..... Antlers Double Rifle Shooters Society Heym 450/400 3" | |||
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If you have never met him he is even a bigger shithead in person than on film. He should be banned from any respectable sport show. | |||
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Have any of our resident taxidermists ever assembled a fabled Hippalo?? I guess the width of a hippo's head might make Cape Buff horns look puny, might need some water boo horns... "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | |||
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In all fairness the book mentioned was not written by Sullivan, he was only being quoted. I hardly think that the publisher would make such a glaring mistake knowingly, clearly a typo error. I know there is a lot of acrimony on this forum regarding Mark Sullivan and it may or may not be well earned. I do not know enough about the fellow to have a definitive opinion. One thing I will say is that from the small ammount of footage that I have seen of his videos he appears to be a pretty immpressive shot with a double and have balls of steel. There are no doubt folks posting here that have hunted with Sullivan and it is THEIR opinion that I would like to hear, other views are in danger of being based on hearsay or rumour. I remember from past posts many members of this forum being only too happy to put the boots into Capstick (easy to do when he is no longer with us) based on the fact that that they had "spoken to someone who knew someone who lived next door to a fellow who went to school with Capstick's best friend".... or similar bullshit. It's often too easy to critisize from afar without knowing the real facts. | |||
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Obivously you've never had the pleasure of knowing either of these gentleman. I met Capstick numerous times and he was always so shit face drunk someone was assigned to help him to walk. | |||
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Capstick and Sullivan each committed one unforgivable mistake, Americans succeeding in Africa...that simply is not to be tolerated. | |||
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"Pondoro" used to get roaring drunk as did Ruark, Hemmingway and many other hunters too numerous to mention, what's your point!! You didn't say so but are you also including Sullivan in that catagory,(ie drunkard) or havn't you met him? | |||
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Gotta love hunting with a PH that shoots your animals! 577NitroExpress Double Rifle Shooters Society Francotte .470 Nitro Express  If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming... | |||
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Would cut way down on travel costs, just have him send you a video of your hunt... "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | |||
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Or Barnes. | |||
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What a load of rubbish! There are many fine Americans who succeeded as PHs in Africa in the past, and some still do today. Whatever Capstick was, he provided a lot of entertainment, and I for one certainly appreciate what he as done for Africa and African hunting. Mark Sullivan, on the other hand, has done nothing but provide a fine example of a self-serving idiot on an ego trip. He is the exact opposite of what a PH should be. In fact, what he does stands in complete opposite to what I would imagine a hunter should be. What Mark Sullivan provides as "hunting" is no different to what Hollywood provides as "reality". | |||
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Come on Saeed, what do you really think of Sullivan?? "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | |||
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In defense of M.S., there is a guy on CDN GunNutz that hunted with Mark Sullivan and has nothing but praise for him. He said Sullivan worked his ass off, they took some nice heads, nothing huge. Basically there was nothing bad that happened and only good stuff. And the guy said he would hunt with him again, anytime. We all know damn well that the forced charges that Sullivan stages are bogus, but the man has balls of steel. Some day he will trip or his gun will misfire and a buffalo will get him. Then just watch the Mark Sullivan haters come out of the wood work. The sad thing is should that happen, other people that are with him could be killed/maimed as well. Sorta like Tim Treadwell and his girl Amy Hugeunard getting dragged into his madness. M.S. is gonna continue to be controversial long after he's done hunting. Even though I have not been to Africa, my idea of a PH is guys like Buzz Charlton, Robin Hurt or John Sharp. I've seen and read quite a bit about those guys and I'm pretty sure I would not be disappointed. | |||
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what would a hippo be doing in heavy brush in a snake infested korongo? if i am not mistaken, a korongo is essentially a dry creek bed or ravine( the Swahili equivalent of an arroyo) and old hippo bulls( the only kind of old bull in Africa that weighs 7000 lbs.) would not hang out there. more typical MS-BS!!!!! Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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Surely there is someone on this forum who has hunted with him (Sullivan) who can give us an insight into what the guy is like "up close and personal". One tends to get a good handle on people they have spent time in the bush with or hunted with. Refer my post above. | |||
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PS to above post: Come to think of it I can understand why nobody would admit to hunting with him, given the vitriole that has been written. It would be akin to admitting that "Zimbabwe Bob" is your best friend!! | |||
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Wrong! Old bull hippos very often hide in very thick brush of which korongos are often full off  "...Them, they were Giants!" J.A. Hunter describing the early explorers and settlers of East Africa hunting is not about the killing but about the chase of the hunt.... Ortega Y Gasset | |||
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I've seen a few of these, maybe one of these will work... http://s206.photobucket.com/albums/bb37/Feleno/?action=...¤t=hippalo.jpg  | |||
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You'd think the bosses would be better on a bull like that.  ------------------------------- Some Pictures from Namibia Some Pictures from Zimbabwe An Elephant Story | |||
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Charles_Helm Clearly that's a cow. I had the misfortune of buying ONE of his videos and was rather sickened! He pushes his clients and rushes them instead of calming them and helping them to make a good shoot. The man has no respect for the animals either! I was disgusted when a client of his spined a buff at about mid point and Mark stopped to have a lengthy conversation with the client about the virtues of how he hunts while the enraged buffalo is shaking and foaming at the mouth dragging itself towards them in the background! I just hope no one else gets it when he does! I'm not the most PC person out there, but it got a little old hearing him refer to his staff as "the boys" when half of them are older than he is. The coup de grace of the film is a wounded buffalo follow up. MS leads 3 or 4 others to the buffalo which is facing away. Then in mass they circle around to the front of the buffalo and walk to with in 15-20 meters of the shaking and enraged bull. Bwana Mark man among his "boys" has everyone wait to shoot until SUPPRISE the buffalo charges! Of course the buffalo goes down in a hail of double rifle bullets with blood flying everywhere in slow motion! He then ends the video with everyone gathering around the buffalo while he expounds on the virtues of taking them the great way, the true way, at the last possible moment! Brett DRSS Life Member SCI Life Member NRA Life Member WSF Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick. And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too. May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep. May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip. -Seth Peterson | |||
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Amen. Have gun- Will travel The value of a trophy is computed directly in terms of personal investment in its acquisition. Robert Ruark | |||
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+1 DRSS Life Member SCI Life Member NRA Life Member WSF Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick. And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too. May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep. May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip. -Seth Peterson | |||
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pichon1 If I didn't say than neither did I imply, Yes I have met both several times as you obviously have not. Being druck in the bush as a hunter and as a PH are two different things. Ask the hunters at Safari South where capstick was the bartender and heard all the wonderful stories he heard. He was a great story teller--just wish he had given a little more credit where credit was due. | |||
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Maybe MS would gain some credibility if used a .45-70? | |||
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I shared a charter plane in 2006 with a guy that had hunted with the esteemed Mr Sullivan on several occasions. He had several comments as follows: >Great guy. >Great sense of humor >Word is his bond. >He was completely different off camera than on camera. >Great shot whether it was 4 yards or 400 yards. >He was deathly afraid of leopards, particularly wounded ones. >He was a lousy judge of elephants. >He is quick to shoot the clients animals, sometimes when they aren't wounded. >He didn't think much of his lion hunting skills. The gentleman I spoke with had not taken a lion with him in 3 (I think) safaris. I wouldn't go with him. | |||
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Brett, I agree with almost eveything you had to say here, except the comment about the crew being refered to as "BOY"! The people who work in those camps refere to themselves as "THE BOYS" They even have a a ranking sysyem among themselves. The Waiters are refered to as "TEA BOYS", the "TEA BOYS" refer to the lad who in on the bottom of the totum pole as the "WATER BOY", and the PH refers to them all as "THE BOYS"! Age or race has nothing to do with it, it is simply the accepted way of talking in Africa. This is nothing new, and will still be the same as long as hunting safaris are being attended in Africa. It is simply AFRICA, and is not PC, or otherwise, but simply the way it is. You don't have to like it, but you will have to accept it, because that is the way they perfer it, and after all it is THEIR country!This is not a pro MS post, by any means, but in this case he is exactly like all PHs, and camp staff in Africa. You know! When in Rome.......... ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith | |||
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Pichon ! I have had the pleasure of hunting with three individuals who hunted with Mark Sullivan. Two had hunted twice and had another hunt booked. All had been to Africa numerous times and had a grand time. In no instance on their hunts did Sullivan fire a shot. He was very professional and extremely competent in their opinion. It is interesting the people who have hunted with him all speak highly and the negatives come from those who have not. Are there any hunters out there that had a bad time with Sullivan? John Sharp is highly regarded yet he came strolling into our camp wearing a loincloth one day. Now there was a case for a snap judgment that would have obviously been wrong. Those who hunt with Sharp think the world of him and return often. I have spent time with Craig Boddington and really enjoyed his company yet there are many who criticize his knowledge and opinions. He is a very humble guy in person and certainly will tell you his written words are his opinions and nothing more. I tend to value the opinions of someone with more than 50 African safaris under their belt. | |||
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MacD37 Fair enough. LJS He may be the greatest thing since sliced bread when it comes to showing you a good time, working hard, and getting trophies, but his complete lack of respect for the animals and for the safety of his clients is BS no matter how you look at it! It's just plain unprofessional. We don't even have to speculate. Just watch a video! I don't need 50+ safaris or 1 for that matter to see that! Brett DRSS Life Member SCI Life Member NRA Life Member WSF Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick. And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too. May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep. May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip. -Seth Peterson | |||
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