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18 April 2013, 15:43
A.DahlgrenAR losing the best contributors
Anyone else noticed this the last year(s) ?
Many of the people that contributed here and hunted and travelled Africa on a yearly basis have stopped posting.
Got a very nice mail from a from a former AR member that wanted to share his last hunt with me, with those pics and animals It would have been a great hunt to share here on AR with the rest os us.
18 April 2013, 15:56
fairgameWhats this got to do with Mark Sullivan?
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18 April 2013, 16:00
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18 April 2013, 16:37
PD999quote:
Originally posted by fairgame:
Whats this got to do with Mark Sullivan?
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18 April 2013, 17:25
OrvarAre people hunting less (don't think so...)? Are people moving to other forums (again, not that I see)?
Or, are people afraid to post public ally things that could be used public ally to malign them? I personally don't post pictures with me in them for that reason - been burnt in the past.
I agree Anton that it seems to be less reports than past, wish is too bad.
I'm not going to Africa this year
so won't have anything to report. But, will post about US & Europe trips.
18 April 2013, 17:38
reddy375AR is a great resource, but being anonymous seems to bring out the worst in people! And if you speak to an AR member outside AR they will be the first to say that there are many people on AR who are nothing more than rabble rousers. Unless that is better policing I am afraid it will continue to loose more good members. Not to mention people in the business who I am sure would be able to share a lot more knowledge than they do for the fear of being crucified!
18 April 2013, 17:40
Bwana Bundukiquote:
Originally posted by fairgame:
Whats this got to do with Mark Sullivan?
Asking that question does not make you gay BTW...
18 April 2013, 17:43
Todd Williamsquote:
Originally posted by fairgame:
Whats this got to do with Mark Sullivan?
Interesting question.
On the surface ... nothing at all.
Dig a little deeper ... more than you realize. Just basing that on the PMs, emails, and phone calls I've received from guys who no longer post here, but have read a few recent threads.
18 April 2013, 18:05
larryshoresSome of the behavior is very disappointing . Some lay in wait just to bash some unsuspecting person. Since joining AR,I have become absolutely convinced there is a God. I am sure he posts here under at least 20-30 names.
I also know some good, inexperienced people who have quit posting .
18 April 2013, 18:36
retreeverIt is called manners and civility, many have lost it on this forum.
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18 April 2013, 18:54
A.Dahlgrenquote:
Originally posted by kld:
loosing?
Lol just My swenglish
18 April 2013, 19:02
SaeedBetter policing?
I am afraid I do not agree with you.
"better policing" means more censorship, and we are not prepared to do that here.
18 April 2013, 19:04
Biebsquote:
It is called manners and civility, many have lost it on this forum.
SHUT UP, MIKE :-)
18 April 2013, 19:13
Maximus Brutusquote:
Originally posted by retreever:
It is called manners and civility, many have lost it on this forum.
Mike
18 April 2013, 19:58
dogcatWho are you talking about? Which posters are not contributing - TO THE RACK WITH THEM!!!!!!
18 April 2013, 20:02
larryshoresquote:
Originally posted by Biebs:
quote:
It is called manners and civility, many have lost it on this forum.
SHUT UP, MIKE :-)
Jon , that is funny as hell. I am still laughing.
18 April 2013, 20:12
larryshoresquote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
Better policing?
I am afraid I do not agree with you.
"better policing" means more censorship, and we are not prepared to do that here.
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Censorship? No. Demanding gentlemanly behavior? Absolutely .
18 April 2013, 20:17
BiebsAgreed, some time ago, I joined AR, and then quit after a few days. I thought "what a bunch of angry, combative, self-important knuckleheads those guys are." But I returned after awhile, and now find that Pagosawingnut and Todd Williams really aren't that bad after all :-)
18 April 2013, 20:32
TrophyShotPrintsAnton,
I agree... I have several former or I should say non-posting AR members who don't post any more because of a variety of reasons mentioned to me.
They seek me to do their TrophyShot digital-enhancements and I certainly believe we could have benefited from their DG hunt report experiences in some very interesting safaris that we often don't read about here.
18 April 2013, 20:35
ScriptusAs for Biebs?? Hummnn, say no more, or less. As for Hooker??
18 April 2013, 20:40
Demonicalquote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
Better policing?
I am afraid I do not agree with you.
"better policing" means more censorship, and we are not prepared to do that here.
Now that I like!!
18 April 2013, 20:45
FrostbitYet many of those that don't post are on here reading this thread right now.
They haven't gone away because they either see benefit or entertainment in reading AR.
If they choose to only contribute by sending selective emails to individuals that is their choice.
18 April 2013, 20:48
fairgameHowever we gained jolouburn.
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18 April 2013, 20:51
Frostbitquote:
Originally posted by fairgame:
However we gained jolouburn.
Like I said......entertainment!!
18 April 2013, 21:02
OngweThe archive is the forum's biggest and best asset in MHO.
18 April 2013, 21:03
L. David Keithquote:
Censorship? No. Demanding gentlemanly behavior? Absolutely .
I'm with Mr Shores 1000%
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18 April 2013, 21:11
Jerry HuffakerThe only big change I've seen is in the hunt reports, and that is because of all the chest beating beatdowns in the past about shooting animals that aren't 100yrs old with only one tooth left. If it's not the PERFECT , old, worn out , one foot in the grave critter then your an unethical jerk for shooting it. Why would anyone want to post a hunt report if there's a good chance of this happening.
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18 April 2013, 21:12
nilgiI have to say that I really enjoy this site and have learned a great deal from the members who regularly post here. I have also observed a trend in an increasing number of people who seem to be unable to disagree with people in a civilized and rational manner, and resort to insult and personal attacks. I believe a vast majority of the members enjoy reading of the other members experiences and use that information to either learn from or just for entertainment either way it is a positive. Kudos to people like Todd Williams, Michael458,retreever, Biebs etc. keep up the good work, and ignore the idiots.
18 April 2013, 21:17
JBoutfishnMike and Larry, well said.
There is a wealth of information to be had here. To those who are combative or a plain PITA, there is the "ignore" button, if only in your mind.
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18 April 2013, 21:22
BrettAKSCIquote:
Originally posted by larryshores:
Some of the behavior is very disappointing . Some lay in wait just to bash some unsuspecting person. Since joining AR,I have become absolutely convinced there is a God. I am sure he posts here under at least 20-30 names.
I couldn't agree more Larry. It's beyond my comprehension that there are (adult/productive/employed) people out there with so much time that they must lurk on internet forums waiting for the opportunity to annoy and/or harass random people for their own entertainment. It's sad and pathetic really.
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18 April 2013, 22:20
impala#03Thanks for that observation Jerry. I went on a super buff/kudu hunt in Zambia, killed a nice cape buffalo, and a nice kudu. Had a great hunt in a very remote area on the Luangwa River. I was not about to post a hunt report only to have the armchair experts pick apart every detail of my hunt. That buff sure is soft bossed, how come that kudu so small, etc, etc, ad nausem........
I would like to post a hunt report to share with others to tell you all how good the PH was, how great a very remote camp can be or all the other details of the hunt. Until the assholes who critize others hunts shutup, I'll just keep it to myself.
18 April 2013, 22:33
hunt99I would post my hunt reports but my experiences with the site in posting pictures was so frustrating that I just gave up on it. Perhaps its not as hard as it seems but if I could just insert a picture directly it would certainly encourage more reports.
Perhaps I am assuming incorrectly that very few want to read an all-prose report!
That said, I do post frequently and the site is a great source of knowledge on bullets, rifles and reloading. Perhaps just less so on outfitters and hunts which seem to be only about good hunts or wild controversies.
What is left out are reports on bad or unsatisfactory hunts because of the attacking trolls and aggressive outfitters that blame their problems on the traveling hunter!
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18 April 2013, 23:01
impala#03AR is a great sorce for a large vararity of topics and subjects. I try to contribute from time to time. I have learned a lot using this resorce. Like others have stated previously, a little more civility and manners can go a long way to making thing more plesant.
18 April 2013, 23:23
BearCountry953I agree with the fact that it is not fun to post like it used to be or even to read some days.
Example I post asking something about what species might be fun to hunt in a certain region...and the thread becomes an interrogation on who I am hunting with and where I’m hunting...I post about RSA and it hardly gets a look and then soon after a thread starts about how high fence is not hunting.
It was always great for the average guy that gets a chance to go to a great place. Not all of us have the huge dollars but save to go on our dream hunt AND JUST WANT TO SHARE IT. But we seem to get trashed by the "arm chair experts"(Not to be confused with the actual experts that help so much)
It’s disappointing because we do have an amazing group with lots of knowledge and experience to share. I have learned so much and appreciate so many of you. This trip will be my 4th “hunt of a lifetime” to Africa, but for me most of my posting is done. I always hoped I could share my love of the hunt and the passion I have for Africa.
19 April 2013, 01:14
fairgamequote:
Originally posted by impala#03:
Thanks for that observation Jerry. I went on a super buff/kudu hunt in Zambia, killed a nice cape buffalo, and a nice kudu. Had a great hunt in a very remote area on the Luangwa River. I was not about to post a hunt report only to have the armchair experts pick apart every detail of my hunt. That buff sure is soft bossed, how come that kudu so small, etc, etc, ad nausem........
I would like to post a hunt report to share with others to tell you all how good the PH was, how great a very remote camp can be or all the other details of the hunt. Until the assholes who critize others hunts shutup, I'll just keep it to myself.
Totally disagree.
For starters tell me someone who can age your Buff against a Kudu or Puku?
If you felt that your PH did his best under the time constraints and indeed the area then state it.
I have hunted Buffalo for meat and to be honest some of those hunts were the best,
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19 April 2013, 01:49
sdirksI certainly would not imply that I am one of the "missing contibutors," but one thing that has definitely kept me from even looking at AR the last few months is the fact that the hunting forums are getting so clogged up with political topics. I'm certainly not suggesting that no one should post about those things, but perhaps the moderators could send them to the poltical forum?
Just my two cents.
19 April 2013, 02:16
Todd WilliamsBiebs, you really are a good ole boy. (As far as you know!)
19 April 2013, 02:21
fairgamequote:
Originally posted by sdirks:
I certainly would not imply that I am one of the "missing contibutors," but one thing that has definitely kept me from even looking at AR the last few months is the fact that the hunting forums are getting so clogged up with political topics. I'm certainly not suggesting that no one should post about those things, but perhaps the moderators could send them to the poltical forum?
Just my two cents.
Good 2 cents.
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