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Like I said earlier,, I was more concerned the guy got sick and missed some hunting than the stickers on his gun. I was more interested in what he ate or got sick from than the stickers. Well done Dave,,,, I can honestly say,,, the only show that is on Tv that I actually remember the time and day to watch is Tracks Across Africa. The 416 Rigby ,,,fueled by Hornaday is still my go to big gun....


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Posts: 786 | Location: Mexia Texas | Registered: 07 July 2006Reply With Quote
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I suggest that everyone who likes this show ought to go out and buy a couple of boxes of Hornady ammo. Pick up a hat and T-shirt while you are at it. Likewise for whoever else sponsors this show.

Then, go to their respective websites and send the president of each company an email thanking them for their support of the safari industry.

Otherwise, at some point in the future, we will all be sitting around this cyber campfire decrying the replacement of Tracks Over Africa with Turkeys Over America. thumbdown

As for me, I abhor the usage of cheap decals, and view them as something up with which I shall no longer put! (Apologies to W.L. Spencer-Churchill)

Instead, I urge Hornady to cover the entire rifle with one of those plastic "skins", featuring one big ass Hornady logo. Cool


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Money talks.


It will be interesting to see if Ivan can carry this show post-CTB...


Rich


Rich,

What exactly did CB do for the show that Ivan cannot?

I would much rather read a story by CB about proper bullets for Cape buffalo than read a story written by a writer on his second buffalo hunt instruct us to "use enough gun for buffalo..."

On the other hand, for entertainment purposes, I would much rather see a guy shoot his first leopard than CB shoot yet another one. I don't like "that other show" because Makris does all the shooting. I find it boring. I am getting a little tired of Shockey for the same reason. Show me real people on real hunts. That is what we saw this week on TAA and I liked it.


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Posts: 7580 | Location: Arizona and off grid in CO | Registered: 28 July 2004Reply With Quote
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Without sponsors there would not be many programs one sees on TV.
 
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Which one of the tv hunters is from Mississippi?


Waddell



Umm, No! Waddell is from Georgia.


I thought Mississippi was a colony of Georgia or at least owned by Georgia?
 
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Posts: 13576 | Location: Georgia | Registered: 28 October 2006Reply With Quote
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Let's see, we can afford to hunt in Africa but can't afford a TiVo or DVR? Hmm? Fast forward people, fast forward!
 
Posts: 1517 | Location: Idaho Falls, Idaho | Registered: 03 June 2004Reply With Quote
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I'm with BuffNut - I like the shows, and however they have to advertise to keep producing the shows is okay with me. I won't stop watching them. However, I think the sponsors may be over-reaching in requiring the decals on the rifle stocks and the embroidery on the backs of the shirts. My own opinion may be contradicted by marketing studies, but all those overt brand name placements in these shows don't make me any more likely to remember their brand, or to buy their products. The commercial breaks are more than enough exposure for their brand. There IS such a thing as "too much". But don't put the blame on Dave, he's just trying to put out the best show on the market within the economic parameters he's given. And he succeeds. It's the quality of the show that makes me watch and remember the sponsors and their products. Keep the shows coming, Dave.

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can someone explain why boddington left taa? i believe he did an excellent job as host and am not sure the show will survive without him. thanks.
 
Posts: 678 | Location: lived all over | Registered: 06 January 2005Reply With Quote
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Ivan is a great host and hunter. Dave and Tim are good producers. I am convinced the show will survive.

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Posts: 989 | Location: Oregon | Registered: 12 June 2009Reply With Quote
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I agree with 270, the show is top quality, put on by top quality peaple. Ivan is a good host, just like CB and I think Dave will keep the show to a high standard.
 
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I, too, was unaware CB had left TAA. Does anyone know why?


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Posts: 1753 | Location: Prescott, Az | Registered: 30 January 2007Reply With Quote
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Thanks for the well founded confidence guys. Ivan is filming at a feverish pace as we speak and we are very excited about our direction and future of TRACKS, HORNADY'S AFRICA, and our new SPORTS AFIELD series. Energized is really the best way to explain my personal feelings. Stay tuned!


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Just a couple of thoughts.

Michael Waddell and Bone Collector target a younger audience than I but if you are raising a son and he is as thoroughly decent as Michael you will be fortunate indeed.

All of the hunting shows have morphed into infomercials. Tracks is the best of the lot, the filming is very professional, the music top drawer, and the editing is seamless. The problem is, hunting is no longer the focus of the program. Initially the premise was to have a program and seek a company to sponsor it. Nowadays it seems we get a herd of sponsors together and then try to find a subject or program riveting enuf to hold the viewer's attention while they are bombarded with one commercial after another.
 
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I, too, was unaware CB had left TAA. Does anyone know why?



Same here! Anyone....?


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Posts: 466 | Location: Just west of Cleo, TX | Registered: 20 February 2008Reply With Quote
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I, too, was unaware CB had left TAA. Does anyone know why?



Same here! Anyone....?


The sound of silence is deafening. Something tells me this is where gentlemen let the subject drop.
 
Posts: 1278 | Location: Texas Hill Country | Registered: 31 May 2007Reply With Quote
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I would suspect the usual culprit - money...
 
Posts: 10424 | Location: Texas... time to secede!! | Registered: 12 February 2004Reply With Quote
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I do like TAA, and think it is probably the best hunting shows on TV. However, I was disturbed by what I saw watching a recorded hunt today. It was titled "Full Bag Safari," or something like that in Tanzania. The hunter was out of Houston shooting a Blaser. Just after a "Focus on Safari" Trijicon plug by CB, the hunter put his gun on the sticks drawing down on an old Eland. The hunter, I believe, had a Schmidt & Bender scope on his Blaser. However, it appeared that electrical tape had been placed over the S&B name on the right side of the eyepiece as he was readying for his shot (I assume this was filmed in a non-hunting scenario, as many shots such as that are.)

I understand the need to promote your sponsors, but to "hide" the competition seems overboard. I rewound and saw the same thing; so it wasn't the beer misleading me. Did anyone else catch this?


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i guess i shouldn't be surprised but it certainly shows a lack of integrity( assuming you are correct)


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i guess i shouldn't be surprised but it certainly shows a lack of integrity( assuming you are correct)


I didn't want to jump in the vault and look at an S&B, but I seem to remember they have their name on the right side of the eyepiece. It was an S&B with the circle-dot on the turret cover. I may be wrong, but there was an odd strip of something where the S&B name should be.

Once again, I do like the show and understand plugging their sponsors. However, should it come at the expense of showing what "mortals" use in the field?


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Posts: 3459 | Location: Dallas | Registered: 19 March 2008Reply With Quote
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I generally prefer "Marketing Accross Africa" when they are not repeatedly advertising for Chifuti. This week they are in Tanzania and I enjoyed the show except the carnival barking for rifle scopes.
 
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It appears many only watch the shows so they have something to complain about, damn it sounds like my wife!
 
Posts: 5338 | Location: Bedford, Pa. USA | Registered: 23 February 2002Reply With Quote
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There is an easy solution to this problem:

1. If Trijicon is the show sponsor then everyone should use Trijicon scopes
2. If the hunter who is being filmed paid for the hunt, then he should get some discount for being filmed with that scope if it wasn't his/her preference.
3. If the hunter who paid for the hunt doesn't want to use a Trijicon scope, then don't film him/her.
3. I can understand Trijicon not wanting to show other scopes if they are sponsoring the show. Why advertise your competition? In this case, the publicity spawned by the use of the black tape actually points out the hunter in question didn't want to use a Trijicon scope. In that case, he should not have been filmed.

The use of various brands in the field is, I think, an effective marketing tool. However, when the brand is displayed on rifle stocks, rifle barrels, shirt patches, etc. it gets to be a little ridiculous...it certainly doesn't cause me to want to buy that brand.


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Posts: 7580 | Location: Arizona and off grid in CO | Registered: 28 July 2004Reply With Quote
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Just returned from a buff hunt in Australia and getting caught up. We have beaten this thing like a rented mule in the past, yet here we are again. To those of you who seem to grasp the "pay to play" nature of the outdoor programming world and can put up with sponsor commercials and on camera segments showing sponsor gear as it applies to the actual hunt I say "Gentlemen, Thank you for your understanding of Business 101, and for your continued support!" To those who cannot stomach the endorsement concept necessary to fund the cost of putting these shockingly expensive episodes on the air, there is always re-runs of Golden Girls or Gilligans Island to keep you busy. Guys, I do hear you on the decal stuff, but logo marketing is something the sponsors want to see if done tastefully...I get that " tastefully " is the key word here. We will try to not offend in the future by going overboard though. To the guy that won't buy Hornady Ammo because he saw a box on camera, give me a break. I guess his pantry is full of farm raised food, a closet full of no name clothes, and he drives a moped instead of one of those Brand cars he sees on TV so as not to offend his sense of ad overkill. Oh brother.
Guys the truth is our show is the most expensive to produce in outdoor hunting TV, period! If you cannot understand that we need and value our sponsors than I cannot change your mind. We have had the same sponsors since DAY 1 and they like what we bring to the table, as I feel most of you on AR do. We use their gear because it works, we believe in it , and we are paid to promote the branding of it. This constant defending of our approach gets old at times, but we really do care what our viewers think, thus my REPEATED comebacks on this subject. I do like the DONATION idea though, so for all of you that want to see the show minus sponsor ad's, pony up and we will make your dreams of " all content-sponsor free TV" a reality. I cannot wait for the money to roll in...




We are a bunch of grown ups here. We understand the concept of commercials. They have been around for decades. But what many of us don't like are infomercials, where it is difficult to determine where the show stops and the commercial starts. Sadly, this seems to be the direction most hunting productions seem to have taken.


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Posts: 3113 | Location: Southern US | Registered: 21 July 2002Reply With Quote
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Wow, surely many of you must live better lives than me. If Traxx Across Africa bothers you that much, you must have it pretty good.

Like blank said, DVR the hunt. TAA wasn't created to only entertain us. It was created to make$$$$. It sure beats watching whitetail or turkey hunts..
 
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Is all this bashing of the show for real or just an example of the ease of commiserating? Since the format of all the hunting shows are pretty much the same and driven by the industry concerning advertising, is it not possible to recognize the content of Tracks as being head and shoulders above the others?

Again, realizing that all the shows' formats are the same concerning advertising, roughly 21 minutes of content with 9 minutes of adds, is it not possible to say something positive concerning Tracks? That was the intent of my original post starting this thread. Although I would rather be on Safari myself, I find it enjoyable to pass a 1/2 hour every once in awhile watching a Dangerous Game hunt. There are a few other shows that have DG hunts from time to time, but most are either Turkey, Whitetail Deer, or RSA plains game hunts. Can you imagine the financial commitment it takes to produce a show pursuing DG each week as opposed to the other shows? I mean, real DG, not the occasional RSA Lion hunt?

Just my opinion but I appreciate the show for the QUALITY of the hunts as all the shows have the same QUANTITY vs advertising. From my original post, I got a chuckle out of the Hornady sticker on the rifle butt. Nothing more or less. I was certainly not offended by it as some have indicated. What I really got from the episode was that the hunter got a Leopard! Not a coyote, or a turkey, or a carp fish with a bowfishing rig, or a feral but common pig, or any other ordinary game or simi-game animal that so many of the other shows pursue just to fill up 13 episodes a season!
 
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Todd,

I really enjoy the show. It is one of my favorites. As I've mentioned in another thread, I wish they would put every show on dvd instead of just the "best of". I would buy all seven seasons... no problem. Although I have only been to Africa once, I have been hooked on things Africa for a long time and, for me, Tracks Across Africa is the best show on hunting in Africa.

My favorite episode this past year was the auctioned hunt in Mozambique for Cape Buffalo. The one with the female PH who stood on the pole, held up by the trackers, to see across the tall grass. It was hot as hell, they had to wade through swamps, it was miserable, and everybody looked beat. They definitely earned those animals. My Marine Corps past is coming out, but, for me, that would be a dream hunt.


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Sherrill,

That sounds like a good episode but unfortunately, I missed that one! Maybe I'll catch a rerun sometime!

Cheers,

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Yep,
I caught that one, with the pole-dancing female PH hunting buffalo in Mozambique. Interesting. tu2
 
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For our defenders,a heartfelt thanks ! For those who can do it better-GET THE HELL WITH IT AND SEND ME COPIES !! Believe me, I am ready to see how you would have done it. Seriously guys, there are a few guys on this thread who really get old complaining. I can take suggestions, even critics with good points to make, but the constant cattiness of some of you guys really gets to me especially when we work so xxxing hard to entertain you. If you have the answers, get in the game and show us how it's done or change the channel .


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For our defenders,a heartfelt thanks ! For those who can do it better-GET THE HELL WITH IT AND SEND ME COPIES !! Believe me, I am ready to see how you would have done it. Seriously guys, there are a few guys on this thread who really get old complaining. I can take suggestions, even critics with good points to make, but the constant cattiness of some of you guys really gets to me especially when we work so xxxing hard to entertain you. If you have the answers, get in the game and show us how it's done or change the channel .


Dave, don't take it personally.

But I used to watch TAA religiously.
Now, I have 5 unwatched episodes on the DVR, not sure when I'll watch them. And if I need the space, I would delete them without a second's thought. Is that what your sponsors are paying for?
Perhaps I am the exception, and if so, no worries.
But if my opinion mirrors too many others, that is not a good thing, is it?
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I love it when some one says "Don't take it personally" when you are critizing ones work how in the F*ck isn't it personal. Duckear when one of your patients complain about your billing rates you take it serious or just tell them the insurance co is taking care of it.
 
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I look forward to four shows on the various hunting channels, Tracks Across Africa, Sports Afield, Dangerous Game (when they are not doing one of the many reruns they seem to have) and Under Wild Skies. Are there things that each could do better, sure. Would my television viewing be diminished without any one of them being on the air, absolutely. Wish there was more good African hunting programing. Some of the shows are flat out shameful in terms of being bush league.


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Dave:

My wife and I will use all of your sponsors products and wear NASCAR coveralls with their patches if someone will donate a hunt to us! Smiler

Seriously, we love the show and we blame you for giving us "Africa fever". We are planning a hunt for the near future and your show provides great information. Thank you.
 
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Thanks for the feedback guys. I really do care, and we do listen !


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