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Originally posted by 465H&H:

From what I have heard Larry is a trained wildlife biologist as I am. I am surprised that one of my brothers would have anything to do with a canned lion or any other type of canned hunt. But since he is from Texas or at least has spent a lot of time hunting there maybe it isn't too surprising his sportsmanship values have been eroded.

There isn't anyway that any of these TV shows will honestly portray a canned lion hunt. It would be their death knell if the general hunting public knew what was going on. In my opinion, if you can't be honest about what you are doing, then don't put it on TV.

465H&H

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Originally posted by JGRaider:

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Originally posted by 465H&H:

From what I have heard Larry is a trained wildlife biologist as I am. I am surprised that one of my brothers would have anything to do with a canned lion or any other type of canned hunt. But since he is from Texas or at least has spent a lot of time hunting there maybe it isn't too surprising his sportsmanship values have been eroded.

There isn't anyway that any of these TV shows will honestly portray a canned lion hunt. It would be their death knell if the general hunting public knew what was going on. In my opinion, if you can't be honest about what you are doing, then don't put it on TV.

465H&H

What do you mean by this stupidazz comment?

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Originally posted by Dave Fulson:
I saw this too. I see more and more these days and I admit that it gets to me when the host does not say it is under fence hunting. Look, I know Larry and consider him a friend, actually a very close friend. But I think he should have been up front on the lion deal.This outfit is the same one that the Pat and Nichole show tried to pass off as a real lion hunt. Another one day, 20 yard stalk, big lion down farce. I admit that I get a bit down after the countless 18-21 day lion hunts we film each year come back with no lion, and no show. Damn expensive, time consuming, frustrating affairs but, dammit, it is REAL LION HUNTING! Yet at the Sportsman Channel and Outdoor Channel Awards shows, we compete with these kinds of hunts and more than not they get the awards and Ohh's and Ahha's when that footage is shown on the screen. Yep the " I have taken 200 lions" is all the tip off you need as to what is happening. I hope you won't write Larry off as a bad guy as he is anything but. But if you see these guys at shows, you might just ask them to be more upfront on the nature of the lion hunts.

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Originally posted by Todd Williams:
Just for the record, although I don't have a problem with high fence hunting, just the AI aspect of it, I have never hunted a high fence property in 47 years of Texas hunting.

Yes, there are quite a few high fence operations in Texas. The VAST majority of deer hunting here takes place on low fenced properties. I don't know what the percentage of high fenced land to low fenced land is in this state but I guarantee you it is very low. Just as there are a few high dollar hunting operations with fancy lodges scattered all over the lower 48 states, it isn't the norm. High fence operations here in TX are also not the norm. If you believe otherwise, you haven't spent very much time here. I would say it's a fair bet to state that less than 1/2 of 1% of the land here is high fenced. In fact, I'd say that number is way on the high side.

What is the difference of hunting over a feeder that spreads corn on the ground and the guys who plant "food plots" and hunt over them or for that matter the guys who plant corn and other crops, then harvest them just before deer season in the heartland. NOT ONE DAMN BIT thank you very much. In all of those cases, the deer are being artificially fed.

I've shot quite a few White Tail deer in my time here in Texas. I've killed one that scored 125, another that scored 131, and another that scored 141. Those are the three largest deer I've ever taken. None of them was taken over a feeder. The fact is that the big boys know better than to hang around feeders. The possible exception to that would be during the rut when they go stupid and chase does. I have personally never seen a trophy quality buck under a feeder unless it's on a trail camera in the middle of the night.

And oh by the way, I seem to remember taking part in a Black Bear hunt this past spring. Yep it was over BAIT. Yep it was in IDAHO!

Walt, you can spin it anyway you want but what you said is that spending time in Texas causes a person's sportsmanship values to erode. That a bullshit statement and you know it!