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Damn, you Texans are testy! My point was for one more time, that since Larry hunts a lot in Texas, may actually live there, high fence hunting is more common there than anywhere else, baiting is at least as common as any other state that allows it and possibly the only state that allows shooting game from a vehicle that he is more likely to have experienced these type of hunts and therefore more likely to accept them. In fact he has been shown doing these types of hunts, except for shooting from a vehicle on his TV shows. I didn't say that ALLTexas hunters would do them. Most I think wouldn't. 465H&H | |||
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A few days ago I happened to catch a couple of minutes of a bowhunting "lion hunt" ( we had company so I didn't see most of the episode). I have no proof that the lion was high fenced in or drugged (perhaps both??) but when the hunter & PH approached the lion it just stood there then turned and slowly walked away. Then they soon caught up with the lion and arrowed him. I turned it off at that point as I told one of the guests that it didn't look real to me. | |||
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Dave: You should show lion hunts that are not successful - I would rather watch that than a canned hunt. For all I know, you do show some unsuccessful lion hunts, but I am reading between the lines: I assume every hunter holding a 21 day in Tanz that doesn't shoot a lion was unsuccessful. I know some guys offer either or hunts at a reduced price, but I would assume most hunters hunting leopard in Tanz also have lion on their dance card. Larry may be a nice guy, but I have to say he conveys an image on TV that he is out of shape and can't shoot unless he has a tripod rest. That may be totally untrue, but that is the image he portrays. Frankly, I am weary of the comment, "Never let the truth interfere with a good story." I have heard that from more than one writer. | |||
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Just for the record, although I don't have a problem with high fence hunting, just the AI aspect of it, I have never hunted a high fence property in 47 years of Texas hunting. Yes, there are quite a few high fence operations in Texas. The VAST majority of deer hunting here takes place on low fenced properties. I don't know what the percentage of high fenced land to low fenced land is in this state but I guarantee you it is very low. Just as there are a few high dollar hunting operations with fancy lodges scattered all over the lower 48 states, it isn't the norm. High fence operations here in TX are also not the norm. If you believe otherwise, you haven't spent very much time here. I would say it's a fair bet to state that less than 1/2 of 1% of the land here is high fenced. In fact, I'd say that number is way on the high side. What is the difference of hunting over a feeder that spreads corn on the ground and the guys who plant "food plots" and hunt over them or for that matter the guys who plant corn and other crops, then harvest them just before deer season in the heartland. NOT ONE DAMN BIT thank you very much. In all of those cases, the deer are being artificially fed. I've shot quite a few White Tail deer in my time here in Texas. I've killed one that scored 125, another that scored 131, and another that scored 141. Those are the three largest deer I've ever taken. None of them was taken over a feeder. The fact is that the big boys know better than to hang around feeders. The possible exception to that would be during the rut when they go stupid and chase does. I have personally never seen a trophy quality buck under a feeder unless it's on a trail camera in the middle of the night. And oh by the way, I seem to remember taking part in a Black Bear hunt this past spring. Yep it was over BAIT. Yep it was in IDAHO! Walt, you can spin it anyway you want but what you said is that spending time in Texas causes a person's sportsmanship values to erode. That a bullshit statement and you know it! | |||
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Todd, If Larry had been from Idaho and I knew he spent a lot of time baiting bears and hunting elk on the 75 acre high fenced elk game farm in SE Idaho, I would opine that had affected his sportsmanship values. As I said up front in the original thread, I don't have heart burn with either of these hunting methods. I also think that someone who does do these type hunts are possibly more likely to do a canned lion hunt than someone who wouldn't. That isn't fact, just my opinion. 465H&H | |||
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Right on Todd. The experts around here on Texas big game hunting are laughable. As you also pointed out, it's amazing that you seldom hear anyone rag on some lardazz sitting in a climbing tree stand over a bean field, but you consistently hear these experts ragging on high fenced hunting in TX, which, as you say, is a minute % of the private land here. For the record, no high fences and no feeders for me either. | |||
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