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What is your take on this "tradition?"
18 June 2012, 23:29
Karl SWhat is your take on this "tradition?"
I have just commented on a photo on facebook, and I am getting more flack than support there, so I wondered what you guys think of this photo depicting supposed "South African Tradition"?
(I have pasted a link, I do not want the photo on my Photobucket account...)
http://www.facebook.com/#!/pho...¬if_t=photo_reply Karl Stumpfe
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Karl, the link didn't work...at least not for me.
18 June 2012, 23:38
Karl SBiebs, hope this helps:
Karl Stumpfe
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P.O. Box 1667, Katima Mulilo, Namibia
Cell: +264 81 1285 416
Fax: +264 61 254 328
Sat. phone: +88 163 166 9264
18 June 2012, 23:40
twoseventyWas this his first ram/buck?
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18 June 2012, 23:44
DonW28damn--Now I know how Charl at Infinito got so large.
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18 June 2012, 23:46
PSmithThat looks like a good way to get ticks.
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18 June 2012, 23:48
Dave FulsonNot a fan.
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18 June 2012, 23:51
Karl Squote:
Originally posted by Dave Fulson:
Not a fan.
Dave, its a pity you do not understand Afrikaans, or you could have chimed in on that page. The idiots there does not see the harm such behaivor can get hunters into...
Karl Stumpfe
Ndumo Hunting Safaris
www.huntingsafaris.netkarl@huntingsafaris.net
P.O. Box 1667, Katima Mulilo, Namibia
Cell: +264 81 1285 416
Fax: +264 61 254 328
Sat. phone: +88 163 166 9264
18 June 2012, 23:54
larrys01Depends on where your from. A picture like that could come back to haunt the kid years from now.
Case in point; If he was to run for public office.

19 June 2012, 00:07
Greg BrownleeNever seen a photo like this. Pretty odd, also not a fan.
19 June 2012, 00:16
Die Ou JagterGives new meaning to "Grab his balls".
Not a fan of doing that. I don't even care for the thing some guys do with smearing blood all over their faces as well.
Yeah.......I think I gotta give that one a thumbs down.
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19 June 2012, 00:50
jstevensI'm a fan of mountain oysters, but I like to skin them first. A little egg/milk batter and roll them in flour would be an improvement.
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It doesn't bother me. I think it is funny. We here in Louisiana always bloody the face of our kids when they make their first deer kill. We also have a recipe for everything on earth.
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19 June 2012, 01:07
Brian ClarkI would love to know the explanation on this tradition?
19 June 2012, 01:13
eyedocI believe that to be the son of a US congressman.The lad is in training!
We seldom get to choose
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Than to slowly rot away!
19 June 2012, 01:19
Topgun 30-06[quote]Posted 19 June 2012 00:13Hide Post
I believe that to be the son of a US congressman.The lad is in training!
Nwo that's funny and I don't care who you are, LOL!!!
I think it is disrespectful to the game, and portrays hunters in a bad light. I hope it is a rare thing, and not commonplace.
19 June 2012, 01:42
7kongoniLooks a bit disrespectful to me. Tho some think cutting off an elephants tail is disrespectful as well even tho there was a legitimate purpose when the practice was begun.
19 June 2012, 01:54
CCMDocIs taht a real South African tradion or something made up for the cameras?
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19 June 2012, 02:17
ivan cartera kids first kill should be one associated with seriousness and achievement not ridicule.
with the ability to kill something ...to take its life comes great responsibility ...
19 June 2012, 02:32
Blacktailerquote:
Originally posted by jstevens:
I'm a fan of mountain oysters, but I like to skin them first. A little egg/milk batter and roll them in flour would be an improvement.

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I am glad it is not a Texas tradition,, like with Bengo...in Texas we paint "war stripes" on the check on a young hunter to symbolize becoming a "hunter", a step to manhood so to speak. It is more of an "native american/indian" issue and being a large part of cherokee blood line I have always accepted the tradition. Some cultures do some strange things to me but if Karl wants to jump down there and bite an animals testicles,, I guess I will be glad to take the picture!
My wife didn't understand why they cut the tail of the elephant and gave it to the hunter,, she thought that was pretty gross,, I told her it was an old tradition of the early elephant hunters,, that it showed ownership of the kill, you can match up the tail with the carcass when they returned to harvest the ivory......
I wonder what other weird traditions there are in other cultures....
The painting of the stripes with blood on a young hunter was taken seriously when I was growing up... my son got his stripes,, and I hope I am there to see his son get his stripes
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19 June 2012, 02:48
TetachuckWe used to castrate sheep like that in South Africa when I was younger
19 June 2012, 03:04
Cross Lquote:
Originally posted by Tetachuck:
We used to castrate sheep like that in South Africa when I was younger
In Texas also
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19 June 2012, 03:08
BaxterBI never got the whole blooding and whatnot. I was thought the greatest form of respect to an animal you killed was to eat it and not waste.
Ivan's comment is spot on.
19 June 2012, 03:44
d.ungerNot the kind of thing I would get my boys to do.
19 June 2012, 04:05
GatogordoI'd need more background to be very critical. It's not my tradition but if done in a serious manner, I see no harm. The animal is dead after all.
I wonder what they do if it's a doe?

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19 June 2012, 04:06
Use Enough GunGives new meaning to the phrase "bite me".

Not a fan of that or of the blood paint. Never saw either in growing up in a serious hunting family or in all of my time hunting around the world. To each his own, or to each area and/or culture, their own, I suppose.
19 June 2012, 04:48
Tapper2I have always felt that the tradition of eating a piece of the heart raw of a dangerous animal was the height of repect for the brave animal. You hope to get some of the courage that he had in his heart. It's Sioux tradition I think, but I am probably wrong.....Tom
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19 June 2012, 04:59
GraftonNow I know why some PH's don't like hunting baboons.
I seem to recall something similar that got a bunch of scout masters and coaches in trouble.
A gold framed 16x20 glossy of that photo was found hanging over the fireplace at Michael Jackson's Neverland Ranch.
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19 June 2012, 13:01
ManyatheloIvan's comment is spot on
There is nothing positive or edifying for either the young hunter or his prey in him doing what he is doing.
I am not German or of Germanic descent but i really appreciatte their respect for their quary.
19 June 2012, 13:58
ScriptusI have never seen or heard of such a crock'o sh#t in all my life. No class, culture or respect at all. A "tradition" that is not a tradition. In all likelyhood, some wankers filled with "brandewyn."

I have never seen such BS and will never do that to my kids,not even the blood in their faces.
Both my daughter and son shot their firs Impala and I never even thought about any traditions.
Scriptus and Ivan,spot on.
19 June 2012, 17:08
Karl Squote:
Originally posted by Scriptus:
I have never seen or heard of such a crock'o sh#t in all my life. No class, culture or respect at all. A "tradition" that is not a tradition. In all likelyhood, some wankers filled with "brandewyn."
Scriptus, my thoughts exactly. And when I said so on the specific post on FB, they tried to ridicule me and when I did not back down, and called their stance BS, I was deleted... Hopefully some of that brannewyn boys have seen SOME light, but I wont hold my breath...
Karl Stumpfe
Ndumo Hunting Safaris
www.huntingsafaris.netkarl@huntingsafaris.net
P.O. Box 1667, Katima Mulilo, Namibia
Cell: +264 81 1285 416
Fax: +264 61 254 328
Sat. phone: +88 163 166 9264
The "brandewyn boys" Scriptus mentioned
19 June 2012, 17:49
CCMDocSo it is not a tradition, only something someone wants to make tradition and lay claim to have started it.
Not particularly bright given the subject matter and how the non-committed public would perceive us as a whole.
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19 June 2012, 19:02
ScriptusGeez Ferdi, whoever took that photo took a "big" chance. That son 'o the ditch could have [looks like he is on the point of] exploded and covered the surrounds in lots of sh#t. You chaps over the pond and elsewhere, that middle is called a vanta pens [fun-ta.] Van ter veel eet en van ter min kak! Someone else can translate.

A Souse Efrican redneck, serious!

19 June 2012, 19:11
465H&HAs we hunters we need to take more seriously our responsibility to teach young hunters to respect the animals that they shoot. There is no respect shown to the animal in this photo.
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