A lion question

26 October 2011, 04:11

MikeBurke

A lion question

You are on a 21 day lion hunt, on the 10th day you track this guy and your PH says shoot:

a. Is it over 6 years old?
b. Would you shoot it?

You have a few seconds to make a decision, what do you do?

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26 October 2011, 04:35

Upton O. Good

At that range and the PH says "shoot", you're going to say "Naw, I want one bigger/older."? You might not make it...

In my mind, when I finally get the resources to hunt DG, if my PH says "shoot" the only thing I want to hear is "Okay, stop shooting now.".

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26 October 2011, 04:38

gerryb

good picture and i think most people on a lion hunt probably would shoot fast. I would hesitate only because of the way the question was asked. I would guess he may not be over six because of the question but it is a fair thing to ask because it could happen. If you try and look for reasons not to shoot i can give some.
1. His face looks a little narrow but could just be the picture
2. his face is not all that scared up but he may not like to fight
3. while his mane is really nice he does not have that middle linebacker look

after all that the answer is I would take the chance.
Do you know exactly how old this lion is or a guess?

26 October 2011, 05:10

crbutler

If my PH, who is a cat guy and very experienced said shoot, I shoot. Especially when we are talking seconds to make the call.

After looking at the photo for several minutes, I dunno.

The shoulder width is not very big.

The skull looks narrow.

The mane looks way too "clean" for a wild lion of age. Also, is that a hint of "Mohawk" from the front view, its just too hard to judge.

He just "looks" young to me, at least from this angle, but I am no expert at aging lions. My initial reaction was he looked good, but after a bit of study, I would want a side view of him before committing.

26 October 2011, 05:10

505 gibbs

quote:
You are on a 21 day lion hunt, on the 10th day you track this guy and your PH says shoot:

I personally don't like to shoot lions when it is light out, but, beggars can't be choosers...

26 October 2011, 05:21

ROSCOE

quote:
Originally posted by 505 gibbs:
quote:
You are on a 21 day lion hunt, on the 10th day you track this guy and your PH says shoot:

I personally don't like to shoot lions when it is light out, but, beggars can't be choosers...

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26 October 2011, 05:23

jjbull

If I have booked a lion hunt, I am booked with someone as knowledgeable as possible about his area, his lions and lions in general.

As the words are coming out of the PH's mouth, I am taking up the slack on the trigger.

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26 October 2011, 07:29

Skip Nantz

Mike

My thought is it is the PH's responsiblity to know that it is a "shooter". If he says to shoot--start aiming and squeezing. That's why we have the PH there . . . .

SHOOT quickly!!!!

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26 October 2011, 08:58

jdollar

we have all heard the advice about don't shoot until the PH gives the OK. WELL, IF HE SAYS SHOOT, HE BETTER PLUG HIS EARS. the buffalo in the background makes me think that this guy is in a game park

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26 October 2011, 14:21

Bwanamich

shoot........ if you are sufficiently certain there are no lactating or pregnant females or dependant young around. You did lure him to the bait didin't you?

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26 October 2011, 18:05

ledvm

quote:
Originally posted by MJines:
I would shoot . . . and never post a picture on AR.

If we want to be honest with ourselves. I have not seen anything critical posted about a lion on AR that did not need some talking about. I think if you are ashamed to put a trophy on AR...you must be ashamed of it yourself.

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26 October 2011, 18:34

MJines

quote:
Originally posted by ledvm:
quote:
Originally posted by MJines:
I would shoot . . . and never post a picture on AR.

...you must be ashamed of it yourself.

Yes, and I have many other feelings of inadequacy that I would love to discuss with you since you are doctor (of sorts) due to the fact that I was potty trained too young.

26 October 2011, 18:45

505 gibbs

quote:
shoot........
so are you stating that you know for a fact that lion is greater than 6 yrs old?
if you are sufficiently certain there are no lactating or pregnant females or dependant young around.
Don't you also require an oral and prostate exam?
You did lure him to the bait didin't you?
Umm, actually I think the story was that they tracked this lion, read and retain Michael, read and retain.

26 October 2011, 20:16

ledvm

quote:
Originally posted by MJines:
quote:
Originally posted by ledvm:
quote:
Originally posted by MJines:
I would shoot . . . and never post a picture on AR.

...you must be ashamed of it yourself.

Yes, and I have many other feelings of inadequacy that I would love to discuss with you since you are doctor (of sorts) due to the fact that I was potty trained too young.

Starting to agree with you here.

The lion that started all of this was a 2 yr old. Not good for lion...not good for hunters. I for one am proud of those that stood up and called a spade-a-spade and quit powdering everybodies butt.

26 October 2011, 20:25

zimguide

quote:
Originally posted by jdollar:
we have all heard the advice about don't shoot until the PH gives the OK. WELL, IF HE SAYS SHOOT, HE BETTER PLUG HIS EARS. the buffalo in the background makes me think that this guy is in a game park

Spot on about the game park. This lion is known as Goose by the lion research team in Hwange and by all the guides alike. He is 12 years old and still holding his area. Interestingly he is one of the few lions in Hwange that has a territory that at no place goes into the hunting area as he is surrounded on all sides by other territories. He is as feisty now as he ever was and he has always been feisty..

26 October 2011, 20:38

MJines

quote:
Originally posted by ledvm:
quote:
Originally posted by MJines:
quote:
Originally posted by ledvm:
quote:
Originally posted by MJines:
I would shoot . . . and never post a picture on AR.

...you must be ashamed of it yourself.

Yes, and I have many other feelings of inadequacy that I would love to discuss with you since you are doctor (of sorts) due to the fact that I was potty trained too young.

Starting to agree with you here.

The lion that started all of this was a 2 yr old. Not good for lion...not good for hunters. I for one am proud of those that stood up and called a spade-a-spade and quit powdering everybodies butt.

And we are all proud of you too.

26 October 2011, 20:53

Frostbit

quote:
Originally posted by zimguide:
quote:
Originally posted by jdollar:
we have all heard the advice about don't shoot until the PH gives the OK. WELL, IF HE SAYS SHOOT, HE BETTER PLUG HIS EARS. the buffalo in the background makes me think that this guy is in a game park

Spot on about the game park. This lion is known as Goose by the lion research team in Hwange and by all the guides alike. He is 12 years old and still holding his area. Interestingly he is one of the few lions in Hwange that has a territory that at no place goes into the hunting area as he is surrounded on all sides by other territories. He is as feisty now as he ever was and he has always been feisty..

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26 October 2011, 21:10

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quote:
Originally posted by MJines:
quote:
Originally posted by ledvm:
quote:
Originally posted by MJines:
quote:
Originally posted by ledvm:
quote:
Originally posted by MJines:
I would shoot . . . and never post a picture on AR.

...you must be ashamed of it yourself.

Yes, and I have many other feelings of inadequacy that I would love to discuss with you since you are doctor (of sorts) due to the fact that I was potty trained too young.

Starting to agree with you here.

The lion that started all of this was a 2 yr old. Not good for lion...not good for hunters. I for one am proud of those that stood up and called a spade-a-spade and quit powdering everybodies butt.

And we are all proud of you too.

Do you have a mouse in your pocket?

26 October 2011, 21:28

Bwana Bunduki

quote:
Originally posted by MJines:
quote:
Originally posted by ledvm:
quote:
Originally posted by MJines:
quote:
Originally posted by ledvm:
quote:
Originally posted by MJines:
I would shoot . . . and never post a picture on AR.

...you must be ashamed of it yourself.

Yes, and I have many other feelings of inadequacy that I would love to discuss with you since you are doctor (of sorts) due to the fact that I was potty trained too young.

Starting to agree with you here.

The lion that started all of this was a 2 yr old. Not good for lion...not good for hunters. I for one am proud of those that stood up and called a spade-a-spade and quit powdering everybodies butt.

And we are all proud of you too.

Killin me.....

26 October 2011, 21:34

MJines

quote:
Originally posted by ledvm:
quote:
Originally posted by MJines:
quote:
Originally posted by ledvm:
quote:
Originally posted by MJines:
quote:
Originally posted by ledvm:
quote:
Originally posted by MJines:
I would shoot . . . and never post a picture on AR.

...you must be ashamed of it yourself.

Yes, and I have many other feelings of inadequacy that I would love to discuss with you since you are doctor (of sorts) due to the fact that I was potty trained too young.

Starting to agree with you here.

The lion that started all of this was a 2 yr old. Not good for lion...not good for hunters. I for one am proud of those that stood up and called a spade-a-spade and quit powdering everybodies butt.

And we are all proud of you too.

Do you have a mouse in your pocket?

I am confident that I speak for hunters everywhere.

26 October 2011, 23:02

ledvm

quote:
Originally posted by MJines:
quote:
Originally posted by ledvm:
quote:
Originally posted by MJines:
quote:
Originally posted by ledvm:
quote:
Originally posted by MJines:
quote:
Originally posted by ledvm:
quote:
Originally posted by MJines:
I would shoot . . . and never post a picture on AR.

...you must be ashamed of it yourself.

Yes, and I have many other feelings of inadequacy that I would love to discuss with you since you are doctor (of sorts) due to the fact that I was potty trained too young.

Starting to agree with you here.

The lion that started all of this was a 2 yr old. Not good for lion...not good for hunters. I for one am proud of those that stood up and called a spade-a-spade and quit powdering everybodies butt.

And we are all proud of you too.

Do you have a mouse in your pocket?

I am confident that I speak for hunters everywhere.

I do believe that you believe that.

26 October 2011, 23:16

prof242

Gentlemen, Gentlemen, my office hours on Wednesday do not start until 1pm MST. Make an appointment and we can discuss all of these feelings and angst.

Until then...