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I am going to SA in early April. Plains game, mostly. The PH I am hunting with has offered me up to 500 Baboons at no additional charge. It was the excuse I had been looking for to buy a nice CZ 300 H&H. Couple boxes of the new Hornady 180gr ammunition, and as many of my own loads with Nosler 150gr Ballistic Tips. A friend has suggested I consider taking my 375 H&H and splitting my big game load of 300gr Gamekings with the same load of Matchkings for the Baboons. I bought a box, and the same load shoots to the same POI at 300 yds. Opinions please? Rich | ||
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its an excuse to buy another rifle, in a classic cartridge to boot. I have 10 rounds of winchester silvertip I can give you next month when I am in the area if you'd like. Go with the 300 H&H... *We Band of 45-70er's* "Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs even though checkered by failure, than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat." -Theodore Roosevelt- | |||
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Rich, That's one caliber (300 H&H) I've always wanted....the classic 30 caliber magnum, smooth tapered sides and a perfect companion rifle to the 375. Nice! | |||
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I'm going to Namibia in April with the first 4-5 days devoted to shooting baboons. I have built two long range rifles just for it. One is a .300 RSAUM and the other is a .220 Swift with a 1-8 twist. Both shoot well but the Swift is the best shooting 80 gr. A-max's. Still don't know what I will take. I have an Ed Brown in 7mm Rem. that just screams at me when I look at it. You don't need the .375 for Baboon and if there is no DG involved the .300 H&H is more than adequate. Take the smallest calibre you're comfortable with as you are going to need a lot of ammo. 5 kilo's of .375 is a lot fewer than 5 kilo's of .300. Just my two cents....Tom SCI lifer NRA Patron DRSS DSC | |||
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New rifle! If you think every possible niche has been filled already, thank a wildcatter! | |||
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Rich, Do yourself a favor and borrow the outfitter's 5.56mm. George | |||
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Rich: Shooting 500 baboons "prarie dog style" is pretty spendy when done with a 375. A PH told me last year that he was impressed with the 22-250 for the bob johns. Also much less weight to pack in your suitcase. In any case, shoot the hell out of em with whatever you have handy. Will J. Parks, III | |||
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In 5 days I would guess you would be lucky to take 5-8. They are very clever and will figure you out by day 2. If I were you I would take a fast flat shooter with a beast of a silencer. Dependant on the topography your best bet it to find a high vantage point and try for head shots. When they break and run then you can start picking them off if you are good and you can estimate range on the fly. The baboon hunt is not far different from going after humans, except the baboons are far more intelligent...and have not forgotten how to survive | |||
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I would take a 6.5 x 284 or a 6 x 284. Thats me. Good out to 1000 yards if set up right. My 6x284 comes in right around 11 pounds with a scope. So not to heavy to hunt with. I would sit up high on with bags with a good look at the surrounding valley. It would be a blast drilling Baboons from 600-800 yards. Mink and Wall Tents don't go together. Especially when you are sleeping in the Wall Tent. DRSS .470 & .500 | |||
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Baboons are smart guys. You will be lucky if you shoot a couple. | |||
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The Sitbok is the kind of animal that sits on his well worn ass the whole day and watches the world go by... -but when the hunters come! Also hope to take a few Sitboks in end March! | |||
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Why not a good, simple .308 with the Leopold of your choice? | |||
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I sure thought the babs were interesting to watch, and their various vocalizations were at times blood-curdling. I love to see them scamper off through the bush, with this one and that one doing that odd, hilarious arms-behind-him leap to glimpse the enemy. I'm particularly fond of the old "Uncle Bob" I collected with one of the few truly decent shots I made on my hunt. I used a CZ 9,3 with 4X Leupold, Barnes 250 TSX between the shoulder blades ... job done. Good luck, Rich! There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t. – John Green, author | |||
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500 baboonies-----------that's 500 reasons for 500 new guns love shooting those little monsters! have great time nothin sweeter than the smell of fresh blood on your hunting boots | |||
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Baboons are smart, fast, and can go places you can't. You will be doing good to get two a day. We should start a pool to see who can come closest to guessing how many you actually get. My guess is less than 6. Elephant Hunter, Double Rifle Shooter Society, NRA Lifetime Member, Ten Safaris, in RSA, Namibia, Zimbabwe | |||
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Rich, I don't have much advise about bullets - I'll just say shoot straight and shoot often!!!! SMILE Dan... PS. Charlotte says Hi! | |||
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Idaho will get more than six. If he can persuade Terry Wieland to help him, more than ten. | |||
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Rich They are a blast to shoot! I have gone so far as to buy a takedown 223 Browning lever action especially for them. Typically you will only see them at long distances or come up on them suddenly where they scamper all over, with many targets, so the shooting is fast with multiple targets, typically on the run, hence a fast repeater helps. I have had the worst luck on them, missing many more than I hit. Another way is for your PH to call them in, which is kinds hairy, they get territorial and by calling them sometimes you can slow them down and get some challenges back. They are very smart and fast and as I said, bagging one is usually quite an accomplishment. ______________________________ "Are you gonna pull them pistols,...or whistle Dixie??" Josie Wales 1866 | |||
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If you are going to be shooting them off the power line pylons, take a raincoat, and big hat. Elephant Hunter, Double Rifle Shooter Society, NRA Lifetime Member, Ten Safaris, in RSA, Namibia, Zimbabwe | |||
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Since when did anyone need an excuse to buy another rifle? Just buy it. As to 500 babs, that is very, very unlikely. One or two a day, and that will require a substantial detour from your PG hunt. They are not gournd hogs. They do not hang around and let their two legged cousins go about murdering. One long shot, and the rest are off! And if you come across a troop that has been shot at before, you'll be luckly to get off even one round. 114-R10David | |||
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500 at no charge....sounds pretty good, but what is the trophy fee thereafter? As was said, for this, small-and-fast would be my choice - BUT I'd get whatever rifle and caliber you think you might be able to use down the road. Or, use the PH's and buy ammo as needed on the ground. | |||
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I never could shoot a baboon. They remind me too much of the people I used to work with! 465H&H | |||
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I know I'm a little twisted but I found this picture quite amusing. LOL. Has anybody ever used a shotgun on them? | |||
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Ditto's Rich, I'll be very impressed if you take 10 baboons per day. That being the most likely situation I'd take a 30 caliber which will cover the rest of the ungulate population you want to hunt. "An individual with experience is never at the mercies of an individual with an argument" | |||
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There is very little chance of getting within shotgun range of a baboon. Elephant Hunter, Double Rifle Shooter Society, NRA Lifetime Member, Ten Safaris, in RSA, Namibia, Zimbabwe | |||
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I don't know a thing about them but just from watching television you could sit on a water hole and be able to get several shots off quickly that way. | |||
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It has been my experience that a 300 yard shot is a close one on Baboons in Namibia. I think they may be the hardest animal to hunt there and in S.A. They are a challenge......Tom SCI lifer NRA Patron DRSS DSC | |||
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500?? Not in a full year of hunting them. | |||
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Opinions please? Rich[/QUOTE] It sounds like you got the rifle working for you and lots of fun awaits but this is the only thing you will need to worry about. | |||
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Frank I believe that is the only "baboon posed as a human" pose that I have ever liked. Pretty clever. But did the PH burn his hat and binos? And what did he wash his face with after the photo? I'm sure you can guess, baboons creep me out. Just thinking about the one I touched 10 years ago gives me the urge to wash my hands. Stinky bastards. Yuck! Jason "You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core." _______________________ Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt. Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure. -Jason Brown | |||
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I don't remember who posted that photo but I think it is well done. Rich, I hope you will enjoy yourself. As I recall the baboons in SA were much darker in color than those I saw in Zim. I think it was call a Chakma and appeared to be larger as well. From Woodlands: | |||
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i agree !!! even when they are not hunted much each troop will need only one individual killed to wise up immediately .. domnt get hooked on thinking you will shoot hundreds of baboons expect to shoot two or three a day "The greatest threat to our wildlife is the thought that someone else will save it” www.facebook.com/ivancartersafrica www.ivancarterwca.org www.ivancarter.com ivan@ivancarter.com | |||
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Hell of an attitude toward a fellow primate. Posing with the corpses is particularly creepy. Just the humble opinion of a common meat hunter. | |||
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i don't consider primates as "fellows". just another dead animal. as far as killing 500-dream on. maybe 6-8. Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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We are primates! but anyway jd, how would you feel about shooting gorillas and chimps if it were legal to do so? Just curious. | |||
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Anything over 500 and the entire hunt is free! That and a lifesize bronze statue in the town center in Elli Ras. I have wanted a 300 H&H for thirty years. And it would work on the big plains game stuff as well. Thanks for the solid advice. Leon, I got the family Bible out and there are none in our family tree. Looks like you may have some in yours though. Good luck with THAT exorcism. Rich | |||
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Hey I-da-ho, I'll bet you hope Sarah Palin is our next president too! Glad that incestuous ancestry theory works for ya. | |||
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Saeed!! I'm thinking PETA is in our midst. | |||
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3 posts and he's on my ignore list! | |||
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