So who has watched 'Trophy' the documentary? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt6333066/?ref_=nv_sr_2

I paid my money at the weekend so was curious to see how others had found it?

My thoughts/ observations:

1) It is focused both on hunting and on game breeding/ trading (with a particular focus on the efforts of John Hume to sell his stocks of Rhino horn to fund his breeding program)

2) It makes little or no clear distinction between canned/ put and take and free range hunting (both are featured although I am unconvinced the casual observer would understand the difference)

3)The argument for sustainable hunting being the only solution and being good for both the game and the environment is well made at times (both by hunters and biologists).

4) The message is reasonably balanced (as much as you could probably hope to expect)

5) The canned lion hunting was undoubtedly the weakest point of the documentary as you might expect for those of us passionate about hunting as a force for good in Africa

6) there is a terrible scene with some total C*** shooting a Crocodile in a put and take pond (very badly) which they then haul out of the water (still alive) and stand around talking and joking before finally administering a coup de grace (at which point the idiot calls the croc a Mutha******). It made for really painful viewing.

7) personally using religion as a justification is dodgy ground IMO. Philip Glass quoting the 'God gave man dominion over the animals'

8) in general it wasn't as Pro as I hoped it might be and not as Anti as I had expected

Interested to hear what other people thought of it. (If anyone hasn't seen it then it can be found on Sky, Amazon and Google Play)

Just like any other films, documentary ...
People who make the final product can skewer it any direction they want and people will interpret it their own way of feeling/emotions...
Sometimes I wonder what technology will pile upon us in future
In the end , I hunt and I dont wanna worry what others might think, because we as hunters will not please everyone
We are simply minority and we just have to deal with it whichever way the wind blows

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Originally posted by boarkiller:
In the end , I hunt and I dont wanna worry what others might think, because we as hunters will not please everyone
We are simply minority and we just have to deal with it whichever way the wind blows

I see that view point a great deal - personally i think we are in a battle of hearts and minds and have been way too complacent for far too long and let the anti's get the upper hand

I enjoyed this. I think it was about as balanced as anyone could expect, and it's really what we make of it.

I first heard about it when I was visiting Chris Moore at Omay about a year ago. A portion was filmed there, and Chris had a good vibe but was understandably apprehensive about the final product.

Earlier this year I had lunch with Shaul and Christina in Harare prior to writing a review for African Hunter and MAN Magnum. That review is in the current, recessed, issue of the Hunter; Magnum never ran it. Probably because there is no release in RSA.

I think the hunting community could do a lot worse than to support "Trophy" - it is what we make of it.

http://deadline.com/2017/12/cn...sundance-1202229693/



‘Trophy’: CNN Sets Airdate For Hunting & Conservation Film With Limited Commercial Interruptions


by Lisa de Moraes
December 20, 2017 9:27am




CNN will premiere Trophy, the critically acclaimed film exploring big-game hunting and wildlife conservation, at 9 PM Sunday, January 14, with limited commercial interruptions.


CNN acquired the film, directed by Shaul Schwarz and co-directed by Christina Clusiau, at Sundance in January. The cable news network is heading back to the Park City fest next month as a buyer for a fifth year. Its first-year acquisition was Blackfish, and buys also have included Dinosaur 13, Escape Fire (which debuted at Sundance in 2012 but CNN acquired the following year) and Holy Hell. Sundance kicks off CNN’s annual look at films for investment; most years CNN has taken films there for premiere.

Amy Entelis, EVP talent and content development for CNN Worldwide, describes Trophy as an exploration of “the complex stakes surrounding sport hunting and wildlife conservation.”


The filmmakers said they wanted to explore the idea of what it means when people place economic value on wildlife.

Among the film’s stops, the annual conference for Safari Club International in Las Vegas, which features exhibits for hunting outfitters, guns, taxidermy services, conservation seminars and safari licenses. SCI attracts 20,000 visitors from around the world each year. Hunting clubs, and organizations like SCI, argue that the trophy permit fees secured by hunters engaged in legal activity make important contributions to African economies and also fund conservation efforts.

Since 1970, the world has lost more than 60% of all wild animals, with some species faring even worse. Populations of elephants have plummeted from 10 million in 1900 to 1.3 million in 1979 to only 350,000 in 2015. In 2008, the year prior to South Africa’s moratorium on the sale of rhino horn, 83 rhinos were poached. In the year after the ban, 333 rhinos were poached, and in 2014, more than 1,200 rhinos were illegally killed.

Hunting and habitat encroachment have impacted wildlife reduction, the film acknowledges, but it takes the position that poaching is having the most dramatic deleterious impacts. Poaching, the film argues, often is “connected to both corruption and terrorism.”

Worth noting, there are two that bear the same title. This is the "good" one.

Received this from SCI> Not sure what it means

quote:

Member Alert
Dear SCI Members,

I would like to add something to my earlier message to you about the movie Trophy that will be broadcast on CNN this coming Sunday. One of the people who appears in the movie is SCI member Phillip Glass. We support Mr. Glass' effort to portray hunting and hunters well.

It has come to our attention that CNN has made some revisions to the original movie. We reviewed these. We note that there are messages in the movie about the devastation of poaching and the important role that hunters play in supporting anti-poaching. There are also messages in the movie about the complete utilization of an animal taken by a hunter, including providing meat for local villagers. There is also acknowledgment of the benefit a hunter provides by removing a marauding animal, while at the same time providing the funds for anti-poaching. Having said this, there are still elements of the movie that do not portray hunting, hunters or our organization in a positive light.

Our concern is that all of you be aware of this, and have the resources necessary to deal with any fallout.

If you or someone else from your chapter is contacted by the media requesting an interview or comment on the film, we ask that you contact our public relations team at scipr@theheraldgroup.com or call 202-617-3008 immediately. Our team will respond accordingly to the request.



Rick Parsons

CEO Safari Club International

It’s not just general population but government agencies with power who can do us in and been trying to meddle in other countries conservations affairs and successfully unfortunately
Thank god for states rights in US

FAO: UK Members of AR

'Trophy' is available on BBC iPlayer for the next month:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09q4ggq

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Originally posted by gbax:
So who has watched 'Trophy' the documentary? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt6333066/?ref_=nv_sr_2

I paid my money at the weekend so was curious to see how others had found it?

My thoughts/ observations:

1) It is focused both on hunting and on game breeding/ trading (with a particular focus on the efforts of John Hume to sell his stocks of Rhino horn to fund his breeding program)

2) It makes little or no clear distinction between canned/ put and take and free range hunting (both are featured although I am unconvinced the casual observer would understand the difference)

3)The argument for sustainable hunting being the only solution and being good for both the game and the environment is well made at times (both by hunters and biologists).

4) The message is reasonably balanced (as much as you could probably hope to expect)

5) The canned lion hunting was undoubtedly the weakest point of the documentary as you might expect for those of us passionate about hunting as a force for good in Africa

6) there is a terrible scene with some total C*** shooting a Crocodile in a put and take pond (very badly) which they then haul out of the water (still alive) and stand around talking and joking before finally administering a coup de grace (at which point the idiot calls the croc a Mutha******). It made for really painful viewing.

7) personally using religion as a justification is dodgy ground IMO. Philip Glass quoting the 'God gave man dominion over the animals'

8) in general it wasn't as Pro as I hoped it might be and not as Anti as I had expected

Interested to hear what other people thought of it. (If anyone hasn't seen it then it can be found on Sky, Amazon and Google Play)

What can lion hunt? I must have missed that. I saw some lions in cages. But Mr Glass lion looked free range to me, he was not the hunter shown talking about the cost of a lion.

Watched this last night on BBC4 - seems very balanced overall.

A bit short on explanations - the differences between free range "wild" hunting and canned, put and take were not made clear and left to the determination of the viewer. From my own experiences of battling these views on social media the experience, knowledge and indeed intelligence of the average Joe in these matters is very, very sad to behold and unfortunately this film did little to expand that knowledge.

The footage of the "canned croc" shooting (you can't call it a hunt) was painful in the extreme....