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I just got my copy today. Instead of immediately throwing it in the trash, as I generally do, this time I flipped it open. It fell open to the Zenith Award page. I thought to myself, “This must be something special.“ This is what it said (I am not making this up): “The Zenith Award is designed for SCI hunters who may not have an opportunity to complete the Crowning Achievement Award. The Zenith Award falls in between the 4th Pinnacle and the Crowning Achievement. Members who have completed six Milestone Awards, two Inner Circles at the Diamond Level, a minimum of two Inner Circles at the Silver Level, six at the Gold Level and the Fourth Pinnacle of Achievement are eligible for the Zenith Award.“ I was tempted to go for it, but only for a moment, because I quickly realized I don’t have room in my house for all of that intervening hardware. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | ||
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That’s a lot of circle jerks… Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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Ha! Does that come with a Blazer and ring? | |||
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For so many years now, every time the management changes at SCI, we are promised of common sense. Never happened. Never likely to happen! I know, we keep getting told that it makes money for the organization. Cannot they find a half decent way to promote our sport than relying on total IDIOTS who have no sense of hunting whatsoever?? | |||
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I threw mine immediately in the trash Lol | |||
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LOL, that's pretty good! I just picture a bunch of dipshits receiving "Participation Trophies" and being all fired up about it. "Oh, you won a NCAA title? Oh, you won a chess championship? Well I completed a Crowning Achievement. Here's my trophy." Basically means that the guy has a passport and can write big checks... | |||
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I just got mine and what a waste of paper. Yet, out of curiousity, I started seeing which "awards" I would be eligible for and it made me laugh. One thing that wasn't clear in the two minutes I devoted to this venture was if multiple animals in the same species could be counted in the African category. Not that I particularly care. But if they are, it would take me from a "Bronze" to a "Gold". Wow! that seems really important. Yeah right. My issue is I like hunting buffalo and cats and will continue to do so. I like doing that so it cuts down on hunting a lot of different species. And I really could care less about what anyone else thinks about it. Anti-hunters or award-seekers. This is complete silliness. Who wants an award from other "hunters"? Taking an animal is not the issue either. Some are hard, some are easy. Some are practically accidents. Why does that deserve an award? | |||
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I looked through it. What I find really silly is that they are now giving awards to people who are too chickenshit to even post their names. Look at the major awards Asia section and there are 2 different people who cover their faces and are only identified by a number. | |||
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I completely agree that many, if not most, of these awards are given to those with deep pockets and large egos, a huge money maker for the club and millions of dollars raised for what we all love, preserving hunting opportunities across the world for all of us, which we should be thankful for. However; there are some well deserved awards that are not based on trophy size or difficulty of the hunt, but are awarded to individuals for their service to our mission and dedication to the “cause”, or to those true hunters that pursue and take the oldest, most beat up, raggedy assed specimens. Those individuals deserve our respect. Some of whom regularly post on AR, but will never say as much. I aspire to be one of those guys. Karl Evans | |||
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Karl has been and continues to be one of those guys, as a leader at DSC before it went sideways. I've tried to convince him to come back without success -- so far. But I agree that if people pay money for these "awards" and it contributes to conservation, then maybe it all serves a purpose. Who care's if it's accomplished by stroking someone's ego. It's not for me, but we all have a place in a common goal and money is absolutely necessary. As long as it goes to the right place, i.e., not bronze trophies, blazers and rings. | |||
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And Karl is absolutely right that the guys who deserve to be honored are the ones who put their reputations and lives on the lines to combat poaching and preserve the animals and wild places we have left. | |||
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I have said it before and I will say it again . I hate these awards . Having said that , they do help raise money that is desperately needed to fight the fight that we all need . The amount of money SCI spends on governmental affairs is staggering . SCI has more lawyers on staff than all the other critter clubs (DU, NWTF, RMEF, etc) combined. Like them or not , they are providing a very important service that we ALL need for hunting to survive . SCI is protecting us all. They are actively involved in many fights even down to the state level . I get e mails every week advising about these various matters. There are indeed many people who work on important matters that no one knows about . Conservation, orphanages , education , helping those who live in poverty, etc. These people do not give a damn about getting some awards. I was recently in Uganda. There was a guy in camp who was going for the Weatherby award. He said he estimated that today one would have to spend between $30 and $35 million just to qualify to apply for the award. I do not get it . As long as the awards raise money to help our cause , I will support them . I will never apply for one . Not my thing . | |||
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Such a sad situation that an individual would spend so much money just to get an award! I am sure glad that is not my thing. | |||
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Yup, I absolutely agree. It is a full time job at that level. | |||
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Hi Larry, When I was heavily involved in SCI, the awards was separate. The funding for the awards and record books, came from that program. It didn't ever get to the "general fund" for use in Conservation or Education. Has it changed? Formerly "Nganga" | |||
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Steve: The conservation area is largely the Foundation and not SCI. Granted they are affiliated. The awards and record book are NOT a separate entity. It is a department within SCI. | |||
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The awards money gets used for political reasons. | |||
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You have to buy the awards and then give them to yourself. And you’re supposed to take some sort of pride in that? It’s like being the class president and valedictorian in a class with only one student. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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Vanity is not one of the best qualities of human beings. | |||
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I also received the issue the other day. I paid more attention to it than I would have because of this thread. Some of the categories have really wild qualifications. You can even get a World Hunting Award ring that looks like a Super Bowl ring. Some of the “winners” knew specifically how many big game animals they had killed, without specifying what species. I understand with certain difficult species, but a complete total seems hard to track unless you start out with the goal of attaining one of these awards. I have nowhere near the experience of most people on this forum, but I couldn’t even come close to that accounting. Hell, I don’t even know how many times I’ve traveled to Argentina, for example, as passport stamps are a thing of the past. I believe the statement that some of these awards can cost millions in the pursuit, so the catalog of bronze trophies at $3,500 a piece is a drop in the bucket. However, I agree that if the funds to further the mission of hunting and conservation, let those who want their egos stroked enjoy the sashes, jackets, bronzes, rings, etc. I meant to be DSC Member...bad typing skills. Marcus Cady DRSS | |||
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I know a guy who has told me he has killed 110 African species. He's clearly keeping score. I just like hunting buffalo and cats. Each to his own. | |||
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