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Originally posted by LionHunter:


You guys are being sucked in and set up. I wouldn't reply to anything ted thorn asks, he is a TROLL. See his posts in the "A Standard" thread earlier in this forum.

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Originally posted by ted thorn:

I haven't nor will ever hunt Elephant of any kind

Until just a couple days ago I thought that I was a hunter....

Each time I stepped out of my house with a weapon in hand in pursuit of game I was indeed hunting.

Rabbit....Squirrel....doe deer....doe antelope....cow elk....quail....pheasant or male animals buck,bull or rooster

Even our September rough fish gigging season I consider hunting

I am kiling fish with a hand held 4 prong spear....Its not fishing its hunting

Horns and antlers or tusk all get measured and might mean the world to one hunter but inches of horn, tusk or antlers are not the measure of a good hunt

The male ego....as my wife who has been around hunters her entire 47 years....gets in the way sometimes

She's correct

I attended an SCI benifit one time....I had never in my life been exposed to so many self proclaimed expert hunters of Africa

Bull or cowDoe or buckDrake or henI have said it before and I stand tall on thisHunting is what YOU make it

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So to answer your questions.

1. It is a SHOOT.

As we do not go out actually hunting them, but when we do find one, we shoot it.

2. It IS a meat hunt, as the meat is utilized fully.

3. It IS a hunt - as that what we do every day we leave our hunting camp.

4. It IS a proper hunt. Conducted by proper professional hunters who have been doing that all their lives.

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Originally posted by nickh:
Now i've heard it all, "penned, game farm, behind wire tuskles ele shoots"

CR Butler, please do tell more .

Nick

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Originally posted by Tim Herald:
Maybe the most fun and exciting hunt I have ever done- proper for sure...

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Originally posted by Dux:
I have glanced over what has transpired since the original post, admittedly only briefly so if some of what I say is repetitive I apologise.
A Tuskless Elephant is without doubt one of the most exciting hunts to be had, it is not for the feint hearted and without question can only be described as a “Proper Hunt” As with Elephant Bulls or Buffalo, a typical “tuskless” hunt involves tracking, glassing, then getting in very close for the kill. Once the herd has been located there’s is the usual glassing of the individual animals trying to find a suitable animal, whilst keeping out of sight, silent, and keeping the wind in your favour, as with Elephant Bulls and Buffalo there is the same frequency of “frustration” when nothing is found (Either no tuskless, theres a tuskless with a calf etc etc)
Once a suitable tuskless cow is located, the other two (Buffalo and Elephant Bull) get left behind in the excitement category, getting in amongst a herd of cows trying to manoeuvre yourself to that 20 yard or less range, Elephant cows are amongst the few animals that will charge without reason… and then taking the shot. It doesn’t end there after the shot a hasty retreat is normally made as there is many very big animals stampeding at close range, if they focus on you there is a good chance of a charge.
A good portion of the meat if not all of it is distributed amongst the protein starved community, nothing is wasted.
Not every hunter has the means of hunting a trophy Elephant bull, this is a very affordable way for keen hunters to experience one of Africa’s most noble hunts I personally highly recommend it -
Finally Elephant hunting here in Zimbabwe and in Africa has taken a knock from various factions, as im sure we are all aware!! We need to promote all hunting in a good light otherwise in a very short space of time we will all be saying remember when we could go to Africa and hunt … Those were the days!!!

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Originally posted by MJines:

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Originally posted by Dux:
I have glanced over what has transpired since the original post, admittedly only briefly so if some of what I say is repetitive I apologise.
A Tuskless Elephant is without doubt one of the most exciting hunts to be had, it is not for the feint hearted and without question can only be described as a “Proper Hunt” As with Elephant Bulls or Buffalo, a typical “tuskless” hunt involves tracking, glassing, then getting in very close for the kill. Once the herd has been located there’s is the usual glassing of the individual animals trying to find a suitable animal, whilst keeping out of sight, silent, and keeping the wind in your favour, as with Elephant Bulls and Buffalo there is the same frequency of “frustration” when nothing is found (Either no tuskless, theres a tuskless with a calf etc etc)
Once a suitable tuskless cow is located, the other two (Buffalo and Elephant Bull) get left behind in the excitement category, getting in amongst a herd of cows trying to manoeuvre yourself to that 20 yard or less range, Elephant cows are amongst the few animals that will charge without reason… and then taking the shot. It doesn’t end there after the shot a hasty retreat is normally made as there is many very big animals stampeding at close range, if they focus on you there is a good chance of a charge.
A good portion of the meat if not all of it is distributed amongst the protein starved community, nothing is wasted.
Not every hunter has the means of hunting a trophy Elephant bull, this is a very affordable way for keen hunters to experience one of Africa’s most noble hunts I personally highly recommend it -
Finally Elephant hunting here in Zimbabwe and in Africa has taken a knock from various factions, as im sure we are all aware!! We need to promote all hunting in a good light otherwise in a very short space of time we will all be saying remember when we could go to Africa and hunt … Those were the days!!!

Absolutely spot on.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by MJines:

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Originally posted by Dux:
I have glanced over what has transpired since the original post, admittedly only briefly so if some of what I say is repetitive I apologise.
A Tuskless Elephant is without doubt one of the most exciting hunts to be had, it is not for the feint hearted and without question can only be described as a “Proper Hunt” As with Elephant Bulls or Buffalo, a typical “tuskless” hunt involves tracking, glassing, then getting in very close for the kill. Once the herd has been located there’s is the usual glassing of the individual animals trying to find a suitable animal, whilst keeping out of sight, silent, and keeping the wind in your favour, as with Elephant Bulls and Buffalo there is the same frequency of “frustration” when nothing is found (Either no tuskless, theres a tuskless with a calf etc etc)
Once a suitable tuskless cow is located, the other two (Buffalo and Elephant Bull) get left behind in the excitement category, getting in amongst a herd of cows trying to manoeuvre yourself to that 20 yard or less range, Elephant cows are amongst the few animals that will charge without reason… and then taking the shot. It doesn’t end there after the shot a hasty retreat is normally made as there is many very big animals stampeding at close range, if they focus on you there is a good chance of a charge.
A good portion of the meat if not all of it is distributed amongst the protein starved community, nothing is wasted.
Not every hunter has the means of hunting a trophy Elephant bull, this is a very affordable way for keen hunters to experience one of Africa’s most noble hunts I personally highly recommend it -
Finally Elephant hunting here in Zimbabwe and in Africa has taken a knock from various factions, as im sure we are all aware!! We need to promote all hunting in a good light otherwise in a very short space of time we will all be saying remember when we could go to Africa and hunt … Those were the days!!!

Absolutely spot on.

+1 on all accounts!

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Originally posted by nickh:
CRButler,

Silly, ill thought of comments have made this thread and the buff thread what it is. Throwing in such a ridiculous curve ball as the canned tuskless is just another one.
Where on earth did you even think that up, you obviously have no real knowledge of this so why throw it in?????

When people refer to a buffalo hunt , 99% of hunters would assume that it's a trophy bull hunted "free range" if it's a cow cull or meat hunt then just fess up and say it!!! Certainly no shame in this!

I have done cull buffalo shoots, shot over 20 bulls, cows and calves in 4 days. It was more a shoot than a hunt,even though we tracked on foot and every animal found was to be taken out.

It is what it is,certainly no trophy hunt though.

I have done 5 ele, tuskless and bull. They were all hunts , no ifs or buts about it.

People contributing should contribute factual information , not hypothesise on things they know little about just to be part of the discussion.

And no I'm not obtuse , just have a low tolerance for

Cheers

Nick



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Originally posted by nickh:
CRBUTLER,
On reflection, perhaps my last email aimed at you and your " canned tuskless " assertion was perhaps a little harsh.
I Never questioned your bona fides, just the inclusion of the canned tuskless comment, which i thought inflammatory in regards to this and the Buff cow thread that this has followed on from.
I apologise if you took offence. I am firmly of the opinion that this is not done anywhere, period. Perhaps a bull i can understand, tuskless, just don't see it.
I firmly agree with the comments of others on the "pucker" factor of hunting tuskless, it's right up there and probably my favourite hunt of all!!!


cheers

Nick