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For those of you, if any, who have taken a porcupine, did you get it mounted or just bring back some quills? How did you hunt them or were they just targets of opportunity?

Photos of mounts would be great.


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I have not seen a mount yet, but it would look great, I think. We shoot them a lot as pests in corn fields. A night out with a spotlight would guarantee one. I am going to find out from my taxidermist if she has one in the shop or not, and get back to you. On second thoughts, I think I am going to ad one to my trophies! Big Grin


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A PH once asked me to shoot one as he wanted to eat one and see the look on the skinners faces when we brought it in. Confused
I declined to shoot it.
I doubt many would have been shot with a 470 and it would have made a great coversation starter.
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Porcupine back ribs (ystervarkribbetjie) done on the coals with a nice BBQ sauce are absolutely a treat - shame!!!


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I have a full body mount of one I shot in Texas.
Everybody who sees it likes it.
I think the smaller animals add to the enjoyment of a trophy room.


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Hell yes I porky is a trophy!

I've taken
one in Jersey, (with a stick).
one in Quebec, (with a rock)
One in Montana (with a .22)
Four in Zimbabwe (1 with a .270, 1 with a .223, 2 with a .416)

They make a great mount! Something very different for the trophy room!

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There are some HUGE porky pines here in Vermont. I plan to have one mounted and displayed next to an African porky. I think they will look cool together.


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Here in the Free State porcupines are considered a varmint. They cause some damage to maize crops and are often shot at night in and around the fields. Here a photo of one night's varminting. [Please excuse the gore!]



I would have a problem with mounting one of these: Not one was hunted - they were all shot at night with the help of a spotlight. Now, in my book that's NOT hunting, and IMHO you only mount trophies that you have hunted!

To hunt a porcupine in daytime will be just about impossible. I have successfully "hunted" them at night: Sitting in ambush next to a field of ripe watermelons at full moon and using a Zeiss 8X56 scope to shoot without any additional light. I would call that ethical hunting1 But would others? Don't care, I would mount a porcupine shot at night without any artificial light.

Anyone interested in coming to try their luck?

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In Zim next year a porcupine is on the wish list. I've wanted one for 10 years since I saw them in Namibia. I believe the easiest way to deal with them is to have them mounted in Africa and shipped as a finished trophy. I believe as others have stated that the small guys like porcupine, serval, genet, civet etc. add a lot to a trophy collection. If I could get a honey badger to stand still for a shot I'd really be happy.

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You guys must have way too much money! I could not think of a more obnoxious thing to have mounted. Sure enough some kid will get speared by the quills.

I have shot hundreds of porkupines in Vermont. They look similar to those african ones.

I have shot them with the Woodsman, .45, 30-06 with cast bullets, 358, the drilling and and many other guns. They were a pest there with a bounty but the introduction of the fisher has made them rare. They would eat your cabin if left alone.

We shot 44 of them one week.

One was shot with a P-38 out of a tree with the FMJ load which has just about no effect on anything. The porky was still moving on the ground and one of the gang stomped it on its head being that he was the kind one. He was wearing those rubber boots with the heel and a quill went right thru his boots heel into his heel.

To each his own.


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As mentioned they are something that you could get with a stick or throwing stones at it if you had no gun and needed something to eat.

We were camping out way back in with no vehicle and long before portable phones and my buddy had this survival book with him. So he bags a big porky with a stick and finds some wire and makes a tripod over a bonfire and starts cooking it hung over the flames.

He was following the books directions on how to cook one if you had no knife.

The burning quills smell like burning chicken feathers. So there it is over a roaring fire and now goo is bubling out of its holes. I am yelling at my buddy not to eat it. I tell him that it will take me a long time to get out and I had no idea who had a phone or where. It could take hours to get him to help. Finally he gave up the mess but not after smelling up the tent and stuff.


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I have the quills from one that was shot displayed in our African display case in the foyer of our house, along with other African memorabilia. I would have one mounted if I shot one on another Safari. Their quills define Africa, like a good Zebra skin.
 
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They make an interesting trophy, I have one full mounted on an old elk antler the taxidermist had in his shop. Shot it with a .32 ACP that a friend had with him as we were cruising the backroads after a bit of prairie dog shooting in eastern Montana. Even tho the porky lost a bunch of his quills from his rear end after falling from the tree, I still like the mount and besides not everyone has one. I also got a few quills from a porky that was raiding in the PH's flower garden one night while on my Namibia trip and was shot by one of the sons to stop it from being a pest. Those African porky quills are quite neat and I saved mine from damamge on the trip back by placing them in the rifle case between the foam and the lid.
 
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I know of a taxidermist in Montana that mounted a North American Porcupine. My dad shot one in Alaska and wanted it mounted. The guy did a real nice job. It is standing on a chewed up moose antler. It looks great. Those spines are sharp!!!

The ones on the African Porky done seem as sharp as the US kind.


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I bought back several quills as a suivenir and the airlines made me put them in the gun case as they considered them dangerous weapons!!!!!


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This house has a big attic. Suppose there is a spot way over in a corner where I could put your porkupine mount for you.

Take a picture of the damm thing and frame it. Do anything but bring the dumb thing home.

Back when I got the camp in the early 60's my late dad and his target shooting buddy along with his son that was my age were walking a woods road and came upon a large porkupine in an an old apple tree. There was nobody around then so I took a shot up at the porky.

My dad's buddy said just before I pulled the trigger on the .358" 200 gr Silvertip "It will go right thru him"

The porky came flying out of the tree. You didn't know porky's can fly did you? They can.

It landed on its back and all of its internal organs were gone! You could see the inside of it's rib cage. Everything was gone! Guts and all.

I said "yep it went right thru it"

When your in VT you can say ah yep.


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Last week Jaco Human and I visited Andre van Rooyen taxidermy. He is "Mr. Porcupine" as far as taxidermy goes. I hope Jaco can remind Andre to send us a photo of the "herd" of porcupines he has in one of his rooms. They make great trophies.


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I for one would like to see the pic.
 
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I will call Andre tomorrow and remind him to send me a photo. He really do them good


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We got the most porkys at night. Just taking a summertime walk on path or logging road and one could hear them lumbering along. Seems that they can't stay still when you approach and make noise in the leaves. So just turn on the flashlight and there it is.

There is no way I would take a porkupine mount free. I would not even take one for $100. For a thousand I would. Bring it up on the day when the dump is open.


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Thanks Jaco. Looking forward to it.
 
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Savage99 wave ---- I think we got the idea but let me check for sure.....you don't think a porcupine is either sporting to hunt or makes a worthwhile trophy....did I miss anything?


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Well the porkupine a pest. They eat toilet seats. At least in outhouses. Thats their favorite food.

There was a $.25 an ear bounty on them in Vermont and my dad would give them to the daughters of the host in the lodge where he stayed.

If someone does display one as a mount I would insist that it's enclosed in a glass case. Save some quills to show people so they can go and stick themselves.


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They do make a cool mount. I wish I would have taken one when I had the chance!

Here's a pic of a mount in Matlabas Lodge with an Aardwolf.


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Great mount and great picture!
 
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Bill, Just so happen to have a mount in my trophy room with one I took in Tanzania several years ago. Sorry the picture is not the best, but the only one I had on my computer. I think it is a great mount and always a conversation piece.



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Help an uninformed guy:

Is the porcupine found in North America the same species as Hystrix africaeaustralis found in South Africa and the whole of southern Africa?

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A lot of porcupines Andre van Rooyen did. They loot a lot more impresive if you are there in person.


A single one by Andre



It is the biggest rodent in RSA and most probably in the rest of Africa.

They are delicious if you barbeque them on a spit. I was very much unsure untill I tasted one, I could not believe the taste and tenderness of the meat


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I should be in difficult in shooting one, hedgehogs and porcupine are nice or if you prefer funny. This is my opinion of course, and is probably dued to the fact that they are rare in Italy and we don't have to suffer for the damages caused by them.
Last year in Namibia I had the pleasure to see a pangolin. It happened while I was hunting Kudu. We did not spend much time in taking photos because two kudu bulls were near to us, but Johan and the trakers were very happy because pangoline is rare and they think that it is a lucky charm.
it should be we take two good kudu bull a few later.


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You don't want to trip and fall in Andre van Rooyen's porcupine room. Andre explained to Jaco and me the difficulty in porcupine trophy preparation. To begin with, the rodent should be frozen as soon as possible after death and NOT SKINNED. Andre would prefer to receive a frozen carcass which has not been even been gutted. Being able to retain the quills in the skin is a painstaking, quill by quill process. It was interesting to see the technique.


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Here in the Free State porcupines are considered a varmint. They cause some damage to maize crops and are often shot at night in and around the fields. Here a photo of one night's varminting. [Please excuse the gore!]



I would have a problem with mounting one of these: Not one was hunted - they were all shot at night with the help of a spotlight. Now, in my book that's NOT hunting, and IMHO you only mount trophies that you have hunted!

To hunt a porcupine in daytime will be just about impossible. I have successfully "hunted" them at night: Sitting in ambush next to a field of ripe watermelons at full moon and using a Zeiss 8X56 scope to shoot without any additional light. I would call that ethical hunting1 But would others? Don't care, I would mount a porcupine shot at night without any artificial light.

Anyone interested in coming to try their luck?

In good hunting.

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The porkupines in Vermont, USA have somewhat different habits. Perhaps they would eat crops there but the the bark of trees seems to be their primary food. As I mentioned they will also eat your house and in particular anywhere you have touched something. Perhaps its the salt they are after.

In cold weather they live in little caves formed by bolders and rocks. They will leave the den in the daylight and if there is sunshine they will climb a tree and sit there in the sun.

There was some sport in the ones that I shot at long range. You can spot them across a valley and shoot them out of the tree.

They are a slow and lethargic animal. If you shoot one on the ground with the P38 it will keep right on walking and climb a tree on you. If you shoot one with the .45 ACP it will stop for a while and then start moving but not well. If you shoot one it the head with the Woodsman it will come down from the tree dead.


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Andrew McLaren's definition of a "trophy" is interesting to consider. There is not much doubt in most people's mind that hunting at night with a light is not fair chase. I don't think many would argue otherwise. But I'm not sure that a mounted animal has to necessarily be taken in fair chase conditions to be "mountable". I have taken two jackals that I wasn't "hunting". While they were both taken during the day, I wasn't really hunting them. One was near a waterhole and I shot it, one walked almost right up to me while I had the rifle in the sticks waiting for a waterbuck to move into view. The jackal got closer and closer and I shot it. I have had both skins tanned. Should I have thrown away the skins because they are varmints I wasn't hunting?


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Next time you shoot a porcupine look at its ears, almost human like. Oh yes, they make beautiful mounts.


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Porkys need to be placed inside a glassed-in case! Firstly, because they are a hazard to children, and secondly,because they are imposible to dust without damageing them. Besides they look better in a glass cased small diarama! beer


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