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Im planning an elephant hunt later this year, i have narrowed it down to one of 2 rifles im am thinking of taking. one a custom crown weatherby mark v in 460 wby.....or my soon to arrive custom built german mark v in 375wby. The 460 obviously has the extra stopping power.......but im so looking forward to my 375......this is the timber on the 375


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Personally I would not use either, but if those were the only two choices, I would go with the .460 Wby.


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The 460 will stop any ele, however I would slow it down to 2500fps less chamber pressure and if hunting in high heat Case sticking is a possibility. I would not that in the back of my mind.
The 375wby is similiar to a 375RUM which also has a lot of velocity, but put a 350gr solid it will be really be an execellent ele rifle.

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thanks mate, why do you say about the case sticking in heat.I shoot a lot here in aus over 45 degrees and never had a prob. is there something i should be looking out for?


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Those are some nice blanks! Remind me a lot of cream in coffee.

Which did you choose for your project?


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the one marked out is for the 375wby
the smokey middle one is for a 7x57
not sure whats doing with the other


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Great pic of your elephant. What rifle and caliber? Can I post this on my website, please?
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Great pic of your elephant. What rifle and caliber? Can I post this on my website, please?
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Just a guess: "450#2 Famars"


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Great pic of your elephant. What rifle and caliber? Can I post this on my website, please?
Cal


Just a guess: "450#2 Famars"


And a very nice rifle it is BTW.
 
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the one marked out is for the 375wby
the smokey middle one is for a 7x57
not sure whats doing with the other


You could send it to an Old Guy. Wink Nice wood.


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Would I be correct in saying that the left blank is from R. Vardy and the middle one is from NZ?
My choice would be the left blank (nice lines for the sharp recoil of a 374Wetherby). This blank is similar to my own used on a 458.
Calibre wise, I would normally say +40cal but this year Ill be likely taking at 375F myself. For me this decision depends greatly on time of season and location.
 
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oz no those blacks are not vardeys. i just wanna hunt with that new 375...........but i wanna no how comfortable people are at using them on elephant


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Have you decided on an area and what time of year and will you be after a Bull or Cow?

There's a heck of a difference between early and late season,Hunting and choice of weapon. In fact a PH once advised against early season hunting of Tuskless and a friend since vowed never to enter the Jesse for Elephant again.
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Late season Bull in open terrain.
 
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Hey Sav, Gordy never told me you got that blank on the left. I got the one from the slab next to it for my custom .240 Weatherby.

Ross Waghorn described it as one of the best blanks he's ever had the pleasure of working.

Good luck with it mate. tu2

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oz no those blacks are not vardeys. i just wanna hunt with that new 375...........but i wanna no how comfortable people are at using them on elephant


I have shot all my elephants with a 375, except two.
One with a 416 Weatherby, one with a 416 Rigby improved.

Go ahead and hunt with your 375.

Just place teh bullet in the right place, and your elephant will know what had hit him.


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[QUOTE]Originally posted by ozhunter:
Have you decided on an area and what time of year and will you be after a Bull or Cow?

There's a heck of a difference between early and late season,Hunting and choice of weapon. In fact a PH once advised against early season hunting of Tuskless and a friend since vowed never to enter the Jesse for Elephant again.

Could you please explain?


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Could you please explain?


Early season Cow Ele hunt = close quarters combat with multiple defensive cows and often shooting through thick foliage with high chance of defensive shooting .
Late season Bull= likely single or small group of Bulls in "generally" more open ground providing easier stalking and shooting opportunity's.


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oz no those blacks are not vardeys. i just wanna hunt with that new 375...........but i wanna no how comfortable people are at using them on elephant


I have shot all my elephants with a 375, except two.
One with a 416 Weatherby, one with a 416 Rigby improved.

Go ahead and hunt with your 375.

Just place teh bullet in the right place, and your elephant will know what had hit him.



thanks saeed. i will be hunting mozambique in october by the way. i know quite a few ozzies hunting cape buff and elephant this year.....im not sure whats going on


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Hey Sav, Gordy never told me you got that blank on the left. I got the one from the slab next to it for my custom .240 Weatherby.

Ross Waghorn described it as one of the best blanks he's ever had the pleasure of working.

Good luck with it mate. tu2

Here's some pics of my rifle.








yeah mate real nice hey


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The 460 will stop any ele, however I would slow it down to 2500fps less chamber pressure and if hunting in high heat Case sticking is a possibility. I would not that in the back of my mind.
The 375wby is similiar to a 375RUM which also has a lot of velocity, but put a 350gr solid it will be really be an execellent ele rifle.

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If Mike was a true gentleman , he would have sold me that rifle long ago. Wink. I have shot it . Damn it is sweet!

Obviously just messing with you Mike. Every time I see that elephant, I like it even more.
 
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Larry, forget it...the words "Mike" and "Gentleman" have never before appeared in the same sentence :-)
 
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I would sell both of those Weatherbys, and get a good double in 450 Nitro, and shoot them elephants at 10 yards or less...

Mikes double is a 450 No2 Famars, I have shot it and it is a nice rifle.

It is Almost as nice as my 450 No2. tu2 Big Grin


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i have a custom double coming as well Big Grin


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The Doubles not going to be ready for the hunt?
 
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its a few years away mate.....ready to do the big five with my then 13 year old.

mylittle b loke has been once to africa and i want to go with him to do the big 5 and for him at that age to shoot a few species as well


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I would sell both of those Weatherbys, and get a good double in 450 Nitro, and shoot them elephants at 10 yards or less...



Now there's some good advice!! But I would suggest 500NE.

BTW, Ozhunter has it exactly correct in defining the difference between early season cow in the jesse and late season bulls in the open. There is a huge difference.
 
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its a few years away mate.....ready to do the big five with my then 13 year old.

mylittle b loke has been once to africa and i want to go with him to do the big 5 and for him at that age to shoot a few species as well


When is your elephant hunt?


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october mate


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I never saw a need for a rifle for elephant. In fact, I don't even own a rifle. Did this guy at 12 yards in full charge just fine. .416 Taylor Encore.


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october mate


I go for a couple in August so if your in Sydney look me up and we can talk hunting Jumbo over a beer.
 
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no worries, ill grab a flight and pop down there anytime if your keen for a beer mate


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You going to the SCI downunder show in Tamworth next month?
 
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october mate


I go for a couple in August so if your in Sydney look me up and we can talk hunting Jumbo over a beer.


If its a beer of Jumbo talk it has to be a Ndovu, "baridi sana" Big Grin
 
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You going to the SCI downunder show in Tamworth next month?


i may do i think


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