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I love going to the Dallas show and any show involving hunting, fishing, shooting.

A pet peeve that is beginning to eat a hole in me is this - I walked past (note "passed") several booths that had a banner saying -

COME EXPERIENCE THE BEST (FILL IN THE BLANK) HUNTING IN AFRICA/TEXAS/WHEREVER.

In particular, a couple said - best kudu hunting anywhere, or , biggest/best whitetail hunting anywhere.

For some reason, I am so sick and tired of anything or anyone claiming to be the "best". Whether it is a rifle or bullet or hotel or fishing spot or whatever.

I feel that I am being scammed and lied to BEFORE I ever talk to them or enter the booth.

Reason - it is a calculated mis-truth to get my money. It is a lie and deception.

Does this bother you or do you just roll with the flow?

I may getting too old and have been fooled a few too many times, but I am getting less and less tolerant of any promise/guarantee that is fake.
 
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Totally agree with you.

Who is to decide what is best?

Funny this.

A friend came over this afternoon.

He has several business.

And all over very good services.

We use them all the time because of this.

He always said they offer the best service they can.

Never the best service around.


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Completely agree as well.

Any booth with that display, I pass by without a second thought. As a general rule, I believe anyone who feels the need to tell you or advertise they are the best is a big red flag. Winners act like they’ve been there before without needing to tell you all about it.


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He always said they offer the best service they can.


And what more can you ask?


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100%. Nothing sets off my BS detector more than than the "we are the best there is" type of claim.

Another claim that sets off my alarm is the claim of 100% success rates.

There is salesmanship, which is fine, as long as it's honest, and then there is BS, which I despise.


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I'm equally peeved by posters who ask something like "What Is the Best Caliber for Whitetails?", or "This Is the Best Powder for the .308", or "Where Is the Best Place to Hunt Mule Deer?".

This concept of "best" is more often a matter of preference or prejudice that one of fact.

I agree that someone who represents their service or product as "The Best" is engaging in hyperbole and typically has no tangible evidence to support that claim.
 
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He always said they offer the best service they can.


And what more can you ask?


That should apply to a PH and Operator


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It's a very strange marketing concept.

I think it's complete bullshit, but it seems to work , doesn't it?


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"THE BEST' gets people's attention so outfitters continue to use it.

I'd rather say " X,Y,Z is the best I've ever seen" OR "X,Y,Z MAYBE the best". When you say flat out THE BEST your setting yourself up for trouble. And as stated earlier one person's best maybe another's not so hot.

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"THE BEST" gets people's attention so outfitters continue to use it.

I'd rather say " X,Y,Z is the best I've ever seen" OR "X,Y,Z MAYBE the best". When you say flat out THE BEST your setting yourself up for trouble. And as stated earlier one person's best maybe another's not so hot.

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Another pet peeve is seeing or hearing the term: “Hunt of a lifetime”


My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost.
 
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The phrase: "The Best" pervades all aspects of life and every business. Just like using the words" monster or trophy deer, monster or trophy trout, monster or trophy bull elk, etc. etc. etc. Long before it became overused, overrun and commonplace, Browning Arms Company trade named: "The Best There Is". Big Grin But, other societal phrases are just as bad. Let's see, let's try: racist, extremist, extreme, far left, far right, hate-filled, hatred.....You get the picture. Big Grin We live in a world where the meaning of many words has no longer, any real meaning, in the realm of truth today.
 
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Doesn’t bother me. I just ignore it.
 
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Doesn’t bother me. I just ignore it.


And stay away from the stupid idiots who use it! clap


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Doesn't bother me any.

I guess all y'all didn't got laid a lot when you were younger.......




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Never really the best.
Except for one thing
The Best hunting forum.
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I seen that old movie with kevin Costner and his partners where they ride into town and whoop ass all over the place.

they used to be called drifters, in one preview,, and then later cowboy's.
this description labeled them as cow herders.

I guess one of them could have been a girl, and she just happened to be the best cow herder on the range... hell I dunno.

but yeah I simply bypass any thread with the question 'what's the best?'

how the hell do I know? I don't have your rifle in my hands.
I don't have an animal count divided by horn/antler length times the number of females on your chunk of land your overcharging me to shoot something you didn't raise and have zero dollars invested in, other than what you paid that kid to go find them for you.
 
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. . . starting to sound a bit like what you would imagine with a bunch of old ladies in a beauty shop sitting under their hair dryers talking about picking fly shit out of the pepper shaker.

2020


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Yep. Lamar lost me with that nonsensical comment. WTF was he posting about?? Confused Confused


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It’s marketing, and I am inundated with it so much, it’s meaningless.

As said previously, it apparently works so folks continue to use it.
 
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I'm equally peeved by posters who ask something like "What Is the Best Caliber for Whitetails?", or "This Is the Best Powder for the .308", or "Where Is the Best Place to Hunt Mule Deer?".

This concept of "best" is more often a matter of preference or prejudice that one of fact.

I agree that someone who represents their service or product as "The Best" is engaging in hyperbole and typically has no tangible evidence to support that claim.


A big +1 on this one!

To many people are so wound up about brands for everything they own today it’s small wonder that somebody offering a hunt would do the same. Big Grin


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Doesn't bother me any.

I guess all y'all didn't got laid a lot when you were younger.......


That was seriously funny


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Yep. Lamar lost me with that nonsensical comment. WTF was he posting about??


Big Grin
 
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As said previously, it apparently works so folks continue to use it.


This ^^^ is what should give you pause. The bulk of the attendants are susceptible to it.


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I book solely with companies that purport to be the best, why would you book with anyone else?
 
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I book solely with companies that purport to be the best, why would you book with anyone else?

If a company advertised "We're genuinely the second best" and their price was half of the "best", I think I'd be interested. After all, the second best of dozens would have to be pretty good. Big Grin
 
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. . . starting to sound a bit like what you would imagine with a bunch of old ladies in a beauty shop sitting under their hair dryers talking about picking fly shit out of the pepper shaker.

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Probably the best quote on this thread


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. . . starting to sound a bit like what you would imagine with a bunch of old ladies in a beauty shop sitting under their hair dryers talking about picking fly shit out of the pepper shaker.

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Probably the best quote on this thread


Only if you like the taste of flyshit.


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or want Pepper on your burger really bad..


I think a few got the point of my post.
 
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Nope. What was the message??


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. . . starting to sound a bit like what you would imagine with a bunch of old ladies in a beauty shop sitting under their hair dryers talking about picking fly shit out of the pepper shaker.

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Probably the best quote on this thread


Only if you like the taste of flyshit.


. . . some apparently prefer the taste of bullshit. Wink


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. . . starting to sound a bit like what you would imagine with a bunch of old ladies in a beauty shop sitting under their hair dryers talking about picking fly shit out of the pepper shaker.

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Probably the best quote on this thread


Only if you like the taste of flyshit.


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It’s marketing, and I am inundated with it so much, it’s meaningless.



Yes. It's marketing, I've had to create so much of it, I also know it's meaningless...but hey if that's what the directors want, that's what they get - the BEST! ;-)
 
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. . . starting to sound a bit like what you would imagine with a bunch of old ladies in a beauty shop sitting under their hair dryers talking about picking fly shit out of the pepper shaker.

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Probably the best quote on this thread


Only if you like the taste of flyshit.


. . . some apparently prefer the taste of bullshit. Wink


If that is truly your preference, I’m sure you can find someone who will permit you kiss his ass.


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. . . starting to sound a bit like what you would imagine with a bunch of old ladies in a beauty shop sitting under their hair dryers talking about picking fly shit out of the pepper shaker.

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Probably the best quote on this thread


Only if you like the taste of flyshit.


. . . some apparently prefer the taste of bullshit. Wink


If that is truly your preference, I’m sure you can find someone who will permit you kiss his ass.


Projecting and whining are so unbecoming. Please quit . . . as you are so want to do.


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. . . starting to sound a bit like what you would imagine with a bunch of old ladies in a beauty shop sitting under their hair dryers talking about picking fly shit out of the pepper shaker.

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Probably the best quote on this thread


Only if you like the taste of flyshit.


. . . some apparently prefer the taste of bullshit. Wink


If that is truly your preference, I’m sure you can find someone who will permit you kiss his ass.


Projecting and whining are so unbecoming. Please quit . . . as you are so want to do.

Hey, Mike, it’s wont, not want.

But for a little fat guy, it won’t be too much work for you.

I know you can do it. I’ve seen you do it before.

But I know there’s a long line ahead of me.


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We all have to accept the morphology and anatomy God gave us. I certainly do. Quitting, well I can see how you would be so defensive over that, given that that comes from the heart. Carry on. Having had the opportunity to visit with many at DSC, while you can try to paint your house white, the true color is obvious to most.


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Hey, dogcat, like you, I am still tired of this.

I still take your point 100%, despite allowing myself to be baited down this sidetrack by an apparent victim of morphology.

I have two hunts planned for this year, both with new outfitters to me, and both based on educated trust.

I hope better educated than my last one. You pay your money and you take your chances.

But like you, I try to keep my BS detector highly tuned. Sadly, in spite of my best efforts, it still fails now and again.


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I heard of a businessman that instead of making boastful claims said "We suck less than the others."

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No bother here. "Fishing for suckers" advertising is old, yet here to stay.
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