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It doesnt make sence to me so i thought i would ask why would Weatherby bring back there ./375 when they have a .378, I know if i were going to choose between the two i would go with the .378. My only thought would be lack of sales with the .378 due to recoil and ammo prices. What do you guys think
 
Posts: 869 | Location: Bellerose,NY USA | Registered: 27 July 2001Reply With Quote
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Uncle Tanoose,

I think they saw sales of custom rifles in .375 Weatherby and similar wildcats, and realized they were missing out on some business.

The .375 W has enough poop for anything you might want to do, and the .378 is too much of a good thing for many shooters.

Your rifle will hold one more and perhaps two more rounds than the .378, and could be made up in a lighter rifle.

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Posts: 4166 | Location: San Diego, CA USA | Registered: 14 November 2001Reply With Quote
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If you like almost twice the perceived recoil and muzzle blast for 150fps more velocity, plus case prices that are three or four times as high, plus two less cartridges in the gun, then the 378 is your baby!
 
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If you ever shot a MK 5 Weatherby in 378 you would appreciate a 375. I had one some time ago and it was the worst rifle I ever owned. Recoil was brutal (nose bleed) I have a Ruger
#1 in 45/120 and it doesn't kick like that Weatherby.Mark
 
Posts: 109 | Location: Sask.Ca | Registered: 27 February 2001Reply With Quote
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The late, famous Alaskan guide(Master Guide#1) Hal Waugh's favorite rifle was a gun he called "Big Nan" in .375 Weatherby. He took game with her in Africa as well as Alaska. If it was good enough for Hal Waugh.................!
 
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The late, famous Alaskan guide(Master Guide#1) Hal Waugh's favorite rifle was a gun he called "Big Nan" in .375 Weatherby. He took game with her in Africa as well as Alaska. If it was good enough for Hal Waugh.................!

I once had one, chambered on an M70, perhaps a '66-'67 model, which didn't have the anti-bind lip, and thus would bind up if the bolt were turned too high up upon opening the bolt. I sold it to a friend about a year later.

I read a book on Hal Waugh, a collection of hunting stories by his clients. Very entertaining. I enjoyed it very much. I'm looking for a re-placement, after my little girls, then 3 and 4 rough, tore it up, "reading" it. ~~~Suluuq

 
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I have a .375 H&H that I am thinking about rechambering to .375 Weatherby.

I assume that it is simply a matter of running the Weatherby reamer in and out to open up the chamber.

Any riflesmiths on the forum interested in taking on the project? (John Ricks, your phone is ringing) What would it cost and how quickly could it be done?

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MWP,
Improving the 375 H&H is an oxymoron...your paying for muzzle blast, recoil, possible feeding problems, little improvment in velocity, and purchasing something that is detrimental to the overall desirable effect of bullet integrity, velocity!!

The best way to improve the 300 gr. bullet in a 375 H&H is to slow it down to 2500 FPS.

All the above is based on using the 375 for its intended purpose of shooting big nasty creatures that stomp, hook, bite or claw.

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Posts: 42190 | Location: Twin Falls, Idaho | Registered: 04 June 2000Reply With Quote
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The 375 Weatherby,375 Ultra,and all the "middle class" 375s are absolutley worthless.Not that they won't absolutley flatten game (as proven by Saeed),it's just that they don't "fit".

The 375 H&H will kill anything any other hot shot 375 can out to 300 yards very easily.The 378 Weatherby (with a brake)is exellent past 300 yards,due to it's extremely flat trajectory (on par with a 300 Weatherby).

If you plan on not shooting at any game past 300 yards,get the 375 H&H.If you plan on shooting at game past 300 yards,get the 378.No point in dinking around in the middle of a 400 FPS gap.

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Posts: 529 | Location: Humboldt County,CA | Registered: 23 May 2002Reply With Quote
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Hal Waugh may have shot more 9-12 foot brown bears than any man alive didnt he??

I read his book many years ago and belive he used a localy made 270 gr bullet with a sharp cutting shoulder on an otherwise conventional jacket.

Big Nan was his bear stopper despite the 375 Weatherby's dreaded high velocity.

It continually amazes me that people on this forumn shoot a 30-06 with a 180 gr at 2,800 fps but wont shoot a 375 with a 300 gr at the same velocity.

Does that mean we should junk our 30-06's and switch to a reduced load in a .308 Winchester so we can "increase its killing power" by reducing the velocity to 2,500 fps?

Why not make a real giant killer out of the 30 caliber and shoot the 300 Savage? Or better yet, the 30-30 winchester?

Seriously, I dont like double base powders, even very stable ones like RL-15. One big advantage of the improved case is that you can stuff it full of IMR-4831, get 2,700 - 2,800 fps with a 300 gr bullet and never come close to flattening a primer. This is true at any temperature. I even put some of my ammo in tin foil under the hood of my car. Drove around with it there for a few days. Then left it in the sun with the heater on inside my car on the dash near the heat vents in August. I tried every thing to get an over pressure load and could not do it. Try this with RL-15, WW 760, or H-205 in the std 375 and you'll blow yourself up!

After using a 375 improved for 25 years I feel the same way about it Hal Waugh did.

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The above afformentioned 375 Wby M70 I once had did give more velocity the the H&H I'm sure, but the cost was a lot more stout recoil. to me, it wasn't worth it.
I'd go with a 375 H&H over it now. (Actually, I'd go with a 376 Steyr, but thats another story.) ~~~Suluuq
 
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The Weatherby cartridges are hyper velocity rounds. Good bullet performance is a maximum of 2900 fps impact with premium bullets and 2700 with standard.

So the .378 Weatherby is not a good choice for anything but long range. Better to increase the bore diameter unless extreme range is what you need.

I have both a .375 Improved and a .375 H&H. I would not do the improved again but it's not a real problem. There is enough shoulder on the old H&H for headspacing if you reload.

The .375 Weatherby died out once. It does not have that great a shoulder anyway with those rounded edges for brass flow so skip it.

The new fat bodied rimmless WSM's and all will obsolete the betlted cartridges thankfully but the DGR cartridges will be the last, if ever, to die out. So get the .375 H&H it's the queen of them all.

 
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giving the .375 H&H a face lift and improving on it is a tough call. Most cannot shoot the .378 well so a super charged .375 sounds better for advertising. I personally like the .375 Weatherby loaded with heavier bullets like the GS 380 grs bullet. It is not a bad idea to try improve on the .375 but at what cost? If you can shoot it well then shoot it a little more horse power never hurt a thing. The .375 H&H is great the way it is and in the field I have witnessed or shot many heads of African game with the .375 H&H. The weatherby is not a bad design it is just not for everyone
 
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The Weatherby cartridges are hyper velocity rounds. Good bullet performance is a maximum of 2900 fps impact with premium bullets and 2700 with standard...
The new fat bodied rimmless WSM's and all will obsolete the betlted cartridges...


Well said !

 
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Here, here, Ray. You're one of the few people I have ever known to advocate slowing the 300 grain 375 bullet down! A couple of PH's I know recommend the very same thing. All 3 of the 375's I've owned were more accurate between 2450 and 2500 fps. Kinda refreshing to hear something besides MORE VELOCITY!
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Yeah well...I still think MY .375 Weatherby is fun.

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It was my understanding that the 375 Weatherby had it's revival due entirely to the 375 ultra. It's velocity is almost the same as the defunct weatherby round. Realizing that to come out with a competing round, all they had to do was crank out the old 375 that was shelved a few years back. It is a versatile round in that you can use 375 H&H ammo and/or load it to those velocities or punch it up a bit if you find yourself in Namibia and need to take a shot at 400 yards for the gemsbok of a lifetime. I myself will stick with the H&H. It is plenty of gun for me. Good hunting. "D"
 
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