The Accurate Reloading Forums THE ACCURATE RELOADING.COM FORUMS Hunting African Big Game Hunting Lion With A 38 Special And 158 Jacketed Hollow Point?Go | New | Find | Notify | Tools | Reply | |
| Lion With A 38 Special And 158 Jacketed Hollow Point? | Login/Join |
| Administrator |
Someone has done it, and lived to tell the tale  | ||
|
Moderator |
Ganyana?? Cheers, Canuck | |||
|
| Administrator |
| |||
|
One of Us |
Range 2 inches???? Paul Smith SCI Life Member NRA Life Member DSC Member Life Member of the "I Can't Wait to Get Back to Africa" Club DRSS I had the privilege to fire E. Hemingway's WR .577NE, E. Keith's WR .470NE, & F. Jamieson's WJJ .500 Jeffery I strongly recommend avoidance of "The Zambezi Safari & Travel Co., Ltd." and "Pisces Sportfishing-Cabo San Lucas" "A failed policy of national defense is its own punishment" Otto von Bismarck | |||
|
| Administrator |
You are getting warm! | |||
|
one of us |
   I begin to be tired of all this people that goes hunting in these ways such 45-70 rifles for dagga boys, or lions with 38 spl revolver, maybe with 2" barrel like a S&W Airweight, and so on ..... they should have to hunt with an assegai, it should be better. bye Stefano Waidmannsheil | |||
|
| one of us |
Mountain lion? _______________________________  | |||
|
| Administrator |
This was related in the book FOOTSTEPS OF AN IVORY HUNTER; by Ian Nyschens. It happened to Jim Levenderis, a PH. He was asleep in his tent, when a lioness walked into his tent. He was under a mosquito net. The lioness was half in and half out of the tent. He decided to fire a couple of shots over her head to scare her off. The effect of that was the exact opposit, as she jumped into the tent. And in the ensuing struggle, he shot her three times - the barrel was touching her skin. He survived without a scratch!! | |||
|
| one of us |
Maybe, but I bet he had to change the sheets! | |||
|
One of Us |
No scratches, but a pissed laundry boy. JudgeG ... just counting time 'til I am again finding balm in Gilead chilled out somewhere in the Selous. | |||
|
| Administrator |
Funny you should say that. The lioness shit herself  I kid you not! | |||
|
| one of us |
Scratch one lioness and definitely the sheets, underwear and tent. I don't have Ian's book yet but definitely need to get it. _______________________________ | |||
|
One of Us |
If he survived without a scratch then there wasn't much of a struggle. "Science only goes so far then God takes over." | |||
|
| One of Us |
Thick mosquito net. | |||
|
| Administrator |
He managed to turn the bed on its side, and hide behind it. | |||
|
One of Us |
The answer is the late Ian Nychens... Mike | |||
|
One of Us |
Hi for a few years ago I made a pentration test with a 22Lr . i used a coucounuts for test and ifound average 40 grain bullet completly penetrated 2 coucounuts and som even 2½ , well coucounuts is made of a very hard and tough materia and a bullet which can preforate totaly a coucounut would be enoguh to kill any animal maybe with exception of ele or rhino or buffs. it will not surprise me that a 38 pistol can kill a lion. i knew a guy who killed a very impressive mountain leopard in nearby iraqi border with a single shot from a 22lr . fotunatly it was night and he didn't know what he was shooting att  regards yes Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. | |||
|
One of Us |
At least the self defense aspect of the story is easier to swallow than it would be if some fool had actually tried to purposely hunt the beast with a .38 special. | |||
|
One of Us |
Proving once again (despite the endless debating on the subject) that - when you need one - any gun is better than no gun at all. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
|
One of Us |
I was shot by a fellow 20 years ago with a .22 LR from a revolver at point blank range. The bullet entered my left jaw and is sitting next to my 2nd cervical vertebrae perfectly mushroomed. Did not exit or kill me. In fact it hardly even stunned me. Did make my mouth where it would not open for a month though. So I might have starved to death in the wild. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
|
| one of us |
Good grief Doc! You've got to tell the rest of the story on that one. Got any cool X-rays? _______________________________ | |||
|
| One of Us |
In a previous life I was a farmhand and routinely watched or on my own shot cows and bulls weighing up to 1600 lbs. between the eyes with a 22 LR. They all went down like a sack of hammers. Only a very few were stunned. The majority had their skulls cracked and died before they regained any sense of consciousness. However, I never had one charging at me at which I surely would have missed and ruined not only a pair of underwear but perhaps a fairly good body, my own that is. | |||
|
One of Us |
Yes. Lane, please regale us with more of the story. | |||
|
| One of Us |
Mrlexma: spot on! Lane: We're BEGGING for "the rest of the story. . ." and from a DVM no less. Does it have an "animal" twist to it? | |||
|
| One of Us |
here in Idaho they run cougars with dogs, and routinely shoot them out of the tree (20-50 feet up) with 22 pistols. Rich DRSS | |||
|
One of Us |
Yeah, it can be done. See below. Some excitement to be had that day for everyone concerned. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=333_1177624795 ______________________ Hunting: I'd kill to participate. | |||
|
One of Us |
Yes, a .22 LR can kill a Lion. Back in the early 80s, a PH friend of mine in Zimbabwe told me about his neighbor that killed a Lion with his .22. It seems the guy heard a ruckus in his stock pens one night and went outside with only a flashlight and .22 rifle. As he approached the gate, a grown male Lion jumped out of the corral with a young calf in his mouth. As the Lion took off running, the guy opened up and emptied eleven rounds at the Lion. The Lion dropped the calf, but it was dead, so the guy didn't dare go off into the night looking any further. The next day they found the Lion dead, just over 100 yards away. Upon inspection, one round penetrated his lungs. That was the only fatal wound they found. Others were non fatal. I was told the rancher was totally shocked, as he only expected to "burn his ass up" and run him off. LDK Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333 Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com NRA Benefactor DSC Professional Member SCI Member RMEF Life Member NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor NAHC Life Member Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt: http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262 Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142 Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007 http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007 16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more: http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409 Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311 Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941 10 days in the Stormberg Mountains http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322 Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232 "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running...... "If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you." | |||
|
| One of Us |
Come on guys, it is a cat for heavens sake. A .38 special is perfectly capable of dispatching any feline. At Home on the Range-Texas Panhandle | |||
|
| One of Us |
I don't know how many of you folks have been within a few feet of a lion bent on killing. From personal experience, a lion, from 350 to 500 pounds huge and with blood on his face, makes you wish you had, not a gun, but a channel changer. I vomited when it was over, and I'm not one bit embarassed to admit it. Maybe I shit my britches, too, but only the laundry boy knows? Hell yes you could kill a lion with a puny pistol, but if you go forth so armed, your nuts are bigger than mine. Up close and personal, the vicious sons-of-bitches scare the crap of any sane man. They are the Kings of the Jungle. And, God willing, I'll be back amonst them in 20 days! | |||
|
| One of Us |
I just grew up in a rough oilfield town and a fellow that had a beef with me when I was younger walked up and shot me in the face with a .22 pistol. It was as simple as that. I do have lots of X-rays of it that I have taken over the years as I am an equine orthopedic surgeon. I will post them some time if y'all want to see them. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
|
| One of Us |
Doctor Lane: I think it would be cool to see that which you tote. We want to know about the beef. Was his wife/girl friend worth it? And since I'm such a nice guy, can I come kill that 150 pt. buck you have tied out at your deer lease? JudgeG ... just counting time 'til I am again finding balm in Gilead chilled out somewhere in the Selous. | |||
|
| one of us |
We need something that says "This topic is worthless with x-rays!" That's an interesting story. Post the x-rays sometime. _______________________________ | |||
|
| One of Us |
LOL!!! Maybe... I will post some x-rays in the next day or so. JudgeG you are always welcome to come hunt with me! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
|
| One of Us |
But...if you were sleeping...and a lioness attacked you...and you had a .38 special in hand...wouldn't you be glad that you did!!! All I would be wishing for is a .454 casull!!! Which reminds me of what an old Texas Ranger told me once. There is only one good reason to carry a .45 and that is 'cause they don't make a .46!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
|
| One of Us |
Sorry to have come into the post and did not read the posts by Saeed...Just the starting post... I will have to go back and reread...I thought Ian was the shooter.... Mike | |||
|
| One of Us |
Heck, I'd rather have a tent mate who was into lathering herself in some kind of funky grease... and in a separate cot, ex post facto, as we lawyers say. That'd save on the daily rate and return air. We've all heard that when DG hunting, you don't have to run fast, just faster than the guy behind you (or smell good to eat like a tasty chippie, perhaps). Now in PG only country, a greasy tent mate (female of course), ain't such a bad deal, anti facto or not!... don't laugh, us old farts have to dream, too. Kidding aside, on my first trip to lion country, I wondered why an askari spent the night with a panga outside my tent. When the "Mmmmuuuuuaaaarraahhhhh's" started, and after I wet my bed, I figured it out. There are some sounds that thrill my soul. A South Georgia gobbler coming in... a 370 bull elk raking a tree at 40 yards, a hyena scraping along the boma inches from my bed, a thrumpting bull elephant pissed with my intrusion, and a leopard coughing while he tears flesh from a bushbuck... but there is only one king.. and those wonderful tawny animals that tickle my soul... and 20 days away. I can't wait, a screwed up Tanzanian government or not. I'm counting the seconds. JudgeG ... just counting time 'til I am again finding balm in Gilead chilled out somewhere in the Selous. | |||
|
| One of Us |
Saeed: I forgot. If a lion eats my butt this trip, I expect Emirates Airlines to get my remains back in style, 'cause if you didn't have this wonderful forum, I'd still be dreaming about the Selous instead of experienceing it. Shame, my friend, and I thank you from the bottom of my heart. JudgeG ... just counting time 'til I am again finding balm in Gilead chilled out somewhere in the Selous. | |||
|
| One of Us |
Judge G: Just think about it. What a way to go! Just a fresh pile of lion sh-t the very next morning. And in the Selous, of all places, to become a part of the African cycle of life. . . But hey, that'd be better than an urn of ashes stuck on someone's shelf, wouldn't it? | |||
|
| One of Us |
  Well it has only taken me 2 years and 2 months to do it but here are my x-rays!!! My life has been kinda hectic since '07!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
|
| One of Us |
Quick story along these lines I once read about in one of the outdoor magazines..a guy who took a Cape Buff with a .45 acp. His rifle failed and no back up, so he climbed a tree. The buff hung around apparently waiting him out, so he took off his shirt and pants and stuffed them with leaves to make a dummy and dangled it using his belt. The buff charged and he shot it. And it charged again and again and each time he shot it again. Finally it started slowing and he saw it was exhaling foamy blood. Eventually it dropped. Maybe someone else remembers that. Just interesting... | |||
|
| Powered by Social Strata | Page 1 2 |
 | Please Wait. Your request is being processed... |
|
The Accurate Reloading Forums THE ACCURATE RELOADING.COM FORUMS Hunting African Big Game Hunting Lion With A 38 Special And 158 Jacketed Hollow Point?
Visit our on-line store for AR Memorabilia