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Another stupid, no life idiot seeking attention

Clueless, stupid, self obsessed, low life.

She must have a life of such emptiness, she cannot find anything happy to do in her life!

She is wrong right off the bat.

I am not white.

And I do not have fat stomachs!

But I do have some brains, which is not what one can say about her! clapAnother stupid, no life idiot seeking attention


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Saeed: I click on the link and it takes me to Cal's hunting report with Mark Sullivan! Eeker rotflmo
 
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Saeed: I click on the link and it takes me to Cal's hunting report with Mark Sullivan! Eeker rotflmo



I thought this might appeal to your sense of humor! rotflmo

Actually, what Mark Sullivan is doing is not much different to what this stupid woman is doing.

Two peas from the same pod!

Anti hunting in two different flavors!

Both are trying their utmost to glorify themselves!

Bloody hell, how an intentional mistake in copy paste brings hunting into such focus!

Cal might invite her on his next hunt, with his fake hero!

I can just imagine the fantastic hunt report he will post here for our reading pleasure.

I do hope he has photos of her in bikini being saved by a hippo from the crocs!

Nothing is out of the imagination when Cal writes about his hero!

Cannot wait to read about his adventure clap

Thank you for letting me know beer


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Saaed, why do you get your news from a British Tabloid? I could see that if you were reading The Sun back when they had page 3 girls, but the Mail!
 
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Saaed, why do you get your news from a British Tabloid? I could see that if you were reading The Sun back when they had page 3 girls, but the Mail!


I have a friend in England, who sends me links to stories.

I avoid reading any so called news media.


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Gentlemen:
I just came from the Sullivan shrine and am too elated to remark on Saeed's infantile comments.

We here are on the same page as to hunting but this Lady and what she is doing well illustrates that we are seeing the last days of international hunting. There is absolutely no way any of us can justify or rationalize what we do to the antis or even those who don't know about hunting. Four lion heads in a bunch, canned lions and rhinos, painting on elephant skin, coffee tables from a hippo skull, etc. This is why we are fighting a losing battle and victory is impossible. Too few of us and too many of them.

Hell, Alaska is a hunter's paradise and everyone here has guns. A few weeks ago I brought my skulls and skins to a 6th grade classroom. One girl left the room and two others began to cry.

SCI's awards program for the number of kills and the size of the kill is not to blame. While I absolutely hate SCI and their elitest attitude, too few Americans know of this. We are moving to different times and anti hunting, anti guns, gays, transgenders, higher taxes, no religion or accountability is all brewing together in the same pot. Traditional American values are about gone and hunting is one. Where will we all be in ten years?
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Where will we all be in ten years?


One possible solution to the problem, albeit a decade too late but still worth a try, is to NOT publicize what we are doing and to REFRAIN from posting photos of dead animals (with or without the hunter).

Photos of dead, bloody animals next grinning faces will definitely stir emotions with the leaf-lickers, of that there is no doubt especially in today's world where the younger generation has been brainwashed in believing that animals have a body (often described as a corpse instead of a carcass) share the same genealogical standing as humans - how can one expect to get any sensible reaction from such individuals?

Social media, which is available to every fool on the planet, has become the death knell to those practicing a hobby or sport, be it hunting or fishing, that has been around since the beginning of time.

When the message to refrain from posting gory pictures from a hunt with high-fiving hunters grinning like Cheshire Cats, the message was scorned and accompanied by chest-thumping retorts and chastising the bearer of the message.

The tune now seems to have changed. coffee
 
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You mean now the freaks have come out of the closet we should go there and hide?

I say to hell with them!

I am not going to let some stupid, brainless, emotional idiot stop me hunting.

They are nothing but bloody hypocrites.


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Saeed,

What you say is true but keep in mind they ARE in the majority and ARE capable of turning things around; some of their accomplishments have already been felt and they are showing no signs of relenting.

Some form of compromise from our side should be given some consideration IMO.
 
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I see reports in the media now the stop lot are trying to stop people buying meat in supermarkets!!

What happened to law and order?

Why are they allowed to do this?


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Next thing you know we will be walking barefoot and eating berries. Big Grin
 
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In 2003, Hervey attracted controversy after saying, "It's so bad being homeless in winter. They should go somewhere warm like the Caribbean where they can eat fresh fish all day."

Nutty as a fruit cake that one......
 
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In 2003, Hervey attracted controversy after saying, "It's so bad being homeless in winter. They should go somewhere warm like the Caribbean where they can eat fresh fish all day."

Nutty as a fruit cake that one......


Did you actually think people like here have brains? clap

We have one here in Dubai and we always have something to say to each other.

One time I saw her in the supermarket, she had a friend with her.

She said “this is Saeed. He likes to kill animals. I understand you have j8st come back from Africa, how many tigers did you kill”

I said “par for the course. Your stupidity has no bounds. There are no tigers in Africa!”

And walked away leaving her with an open mouth! clap


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She probably told her friend there are no tiger in Africa because you killed them all.

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I liked the "rhino horn" ivory the most ... and her self-indulgent photos the least. "Look at me with a handgun, don't I look like a movie star?". I have to say, she seemed to have an obsession with phallic-shaped items.


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I'll wager that her paid admission is the first nickel she ever personally put towards wildlife conservation.

I like the multiple photos and mentions of mammoth tusks. Wonder what percent of the idiots who read that think we're hunting mammoths!
 
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Where will we all be in ten years?

Likely in an armed revolution. . . . . Big Grin
 
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Folks,

The unfortunate part is that many people are so removed from the natural world that the BS spewed by idiots like this women are taken for reality. Most people are just ignorant about wild animals and this drivel is completely believable to them.

To fulvio's point I started removing rifles from my trophy pix many yeas ago. I just think it is not necessary but that's my personal opinion only. A funny story came form this. 25 years ago I had just returned from a safari in Zimbabwe. The PH was very careful about posing the animals and there were no guns in the pix. Once we had returned from safari and returned to work folks were asking about our trip and at lunch I passed around some pictures. One women looked at all the pictures and was very complimentary. She had one question though "How did you get all those animals to lie down in front of you".................

This was in "Bush" Alaska where almost everybody hunts and has a freezer full of game meat.

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Hard to believe England was once the center of custom gunmaking and sport hunting ... I think two world wars depleted the gene pool leaving only the sick and the weak to propagate.

You can't even own a handgun in the UK now. And God forbid you confront a home invader with your Purdey SXS!. You are then the bad guy.

I recall, back in the early 90s while I was stationed there, an anti-fishing story in the local tabloid. Seems one or more do-gooders would don scuba gear, and then swim along and cut the lines of sports fishing for carp!

And of course the big fuss about fox hunting, they were at the point where they were chasing burlap bags doused with fox scent.

No wonder they drink themselves into an early grave.


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In 2003, Hervey attracted controversy after saying, "It's so bad being homeless in winter. They should go somewhere warm like the Caribbean where they can eat fresh fish all day."

Nutty as a fruit cake that one......


Did you actually think people like here have brains? clap

We have one here in Dubai and we always have something to say to each other.

One time I saw her in the supermarket, she had a friend with her.

She said “this is Saeed. He likes to kill animals. I understand you have j8st come back from Africa, how many tigers did you kill”

I said “par for the course. Your stupidity has no bounds. There are no tigers in Africa!”

And walked away leaving her with an open mouth! clap


l'm afraid the world's becoming populated with those sort and even more brainless buggers are soaking up their BS and repeating it as the truth (at least as they see it).
 
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As a British Scotsman I'm somewhat disturbed to be accused of coming from a depleted genepool with only weak and sick parents but I'll let that slide so long as it's not repeated.
The majority of folk the world over have no firm beliefs regarding hunting and it is those people who can be educated that we must educate.
I've explained the finances, the ethics of hunting and the politics to many folk who have never seen a live cow let alone an elephant. Vocal minorities are just that, vocal minorities, they shout loud and are often heard but once they are discredited with facts not opinion they are toothless. Our defence may not come from our own mouths. Our opinion on the matter will always appear biased, but if others stop to question or better yet take the time to investigate the truth the uncaring majority may in time become advocates of hunting in it's most justifiable ethical form. The flip side is that an educated mass will be better able to decry any unethical activity and the whole becomes tarnished.
I never step back from taking 5 minutes to quietly explain to anyone, impassioned anti or curious bystander who raises an opinion contrary to mine.
 
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Thank you Saeed. Regardless of what pontificating Cal has to say, we simply can't let crap like this pass without protesting. I'm not about to hide in a closet. The SCI convention is one of the last bastions of the American hunter. If she paid for a membership, then it's money well spent putting back into the coffers of our side. To quickly, today's hunters have turned into pussies. I'm not advocating leaving the tailgate down or shooting a troop of baboons and posting it, but unless you stand up to the real elitists in the world, they'll simply run over you. For every little snot who jumps up crying, there's another sitting there excitedly awaiting to hear an adventure of their lifetime. The only pompous ass here was the "lady" who had to sneak into the show to put it off. I was at the World Taxidermist Convention when a film crew of anti-hunting Brits sneaked through under the guise of portraying taxidermy in a positive light. When they got through with the "Deliverance" music and the gap-toothed yahoo jokes they had nothing left. She flat out lied about us hunting animals on the verge of extinction and got away with it because no one objected. No one bothered to tell you that in Kenya, when a lion loses it's value for the money foreign hunters pay to shoot it, they will be wantonly slaughtered to keep them from killing their cattle. Obama the fool burned 6 tons of ivory from hundreds of dead elephants in the ignorant that that it would stop elephant poaching. When he could have simply glutted the market to stop illicit ivory trade, he burned it and made the idea of poaching more enticing and the price of illicit ivory skyrocket. The newspaper I wrote a weekly column for refused to print it. I took to social media instead and was terminated. OH WELL. The beauty of shouting the truth is that you won't have any trouble remembering it when you're asked to repeat it.


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Folks,

The unfortunate part is that many people are so removed from the natural world that the BS spewed by idiots like this women are taken for reality. Most people are just ignorant about wild animals and this drivel is completely believable to them.

To fulvio's point I started removing rifles from my trophy pix many yeas ago. I just think it is not necessary but that's my personal opinion only. A funny story came form this. 25 years ago I had just returned from a safari in Zimbabwe. The PH was very careful about posing the animals and there were no guns in the pix. Once we had returned from safari and returned to work folks were asking about our trip and at lunch I passed around some pictures. One women looked at all the pictures and was very complimentary. She had one question though "How did you get all those animals to lie down in front of you".................

This was in "Bush" Alaska where almost everybody hunts and has a freezer full of game meat.

Mark


A friend brought his nephew here once.

He looked at my hunting pictures, and the young idiot freaked out!

“They are DEAD?” was the first thing he said, then proceeded to give me a lecture about killing animals.

I asked him what he had for lunch - he was from Srilanka.

He said he had keema.

It is a dish with ground meat.

I asked him where did he think that meat came from!

Honestly, without batting an eyelid, he said “the supermarket!”

I had to break the news to him that the meat was actually walking in the fields eating grass, being fattened for him to eat!


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Why go undercover at a public show? Silly cow.

And she thinks carved Hippo tooth ivory is a Rhino horn?

What is quite interesting is she received many negative comments at the end of this article which are worth reading.


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Cal,

What grain is recommended in the 4 bore on mastodon?

Just hoping for levity.


I meant to be DSC Member...bad typing skills.

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What grain is recommended in the 4 bore on mastodon?

Just hoping for levity.


It all depends.

If you wish to kill it with one shot, or ask it how he wants to die! rotflmo


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What grain is recommended in the 4 bore on mastodon?

Just hoping for levity.


It all depends.

If you wish to kill it with one shot, or ask it how he wants to die! rotflmo

jumping Its a good thing that I read your comment just before I took a sip of hot coffee, and not the other way around.


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1882 grains (4 1/4 ounces) and 14 drams of C&H no6.
I love you, Saeed. Please don't ban me like you have been doing to gents on the PF.
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Friend of mine and I were at a DNR thing one time and he'd been talking about hunting squirrels or something. This old biddy then said to him, I suppose you hunt DEER too, don't you. And Charlie looked her right in the eye, and said, no mam I don't. Once you've hunted people, deer are kind of tame. got the wide eyed, and mouth open look. I then explained to her, not sure it did any good, that animals that eat grass and nuts, and such stuff exist to be food for other animals (in including us) that eat meat. Foxes , wolves etc. At least she had that "never thought of that" look on her face when we left.
 
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As a British Scotsman I'm somewhat disturbed to be accused of coming from a depleted genepool with only weak and sick parents but I'll let that slide so long as it's not repeated.
The majority of folk the world over have no firm beliefs regarding hunting and it is those people who can be educated that we must educate.
I've explained the finances, the ethics of hunting and the politics to many folk who have never seen a live cow let alone an elephant. Vocal minorities are just that, vocal minorities, they shout loud and are often heard but once they are discredited with facts not opinion they are toothless. Our defence may not come from our own mouths. Our opinion on the matter will always appear biased, but if others stop to question or better yet take the time to investigate the truth the uncaring majority may in time become advocates of hunting in it's most justifiable ethical form. The flip side is that an educated mass will be better able to decry any unethical activity and the whole becomes tarnished.
I never step back from taking 5 minutes to quietly explain to anyone, impassioned anti or curious bystander who raises an opinion contrary to mine.


Then respectfully asking, how do you explain an empire that once tried to rule the world has now become the epicenter of anti-hunting malice and rhetoric? I assure you sir that in the case of the UK, it is far from a minority.

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I'll bet she is against the death penalty for the worst of criminals that deserve it and all for aborting babies up to and during actual child birth.
 
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As a British Scotsman I'm somewhat disturbed to be accused of coming from a depleted genepool with only weak and sick parents but I'll let that slide so long as it's not repeated.
The majority of folk the world over have no firm beliefs regarding hunting and it is those people who can be educated that we must educate.
I've explained the finances, the ethics of hunting and the politics to many folk who have never seen a live cow let alone an elephant. Vocal minorities are just that, vocal minorities, they shout loud and are often heard but once they are discredited with facts not opinion they are toothless. Our defence may not come from our own mouths. Our opinion on the matter will always appear biased, but if others stop to question or better yet take the time to investigate the truth the uncaring majority may in time become advocates of hunting in it's most justifiable ethical form. The flip side is that an educated mass will be better able to decry any unethical activity and the whole becomes tarnished.
I never step back from taking 5 minutes to quietly explain to anyone, impassioned anti or curious bystander who raises an opinion contrary to mine.


Then respectfully asking, how do you explain an empire that once tried to rule the world has now become the epicenter of anti-hunting malice and rhetoric? I assure you sir that in the case of the UK, it is far from a minority.

Jeff


Not fair. That’s like asking one of us to explain the likes of Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi, not to mention Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and a host of others.

Although I do confess to telling Brit friends and relatives, when feeling less than charitable, not to say wicked, that anyone with a pair of balls and any ambition, but without a title, left that island 400 years ago. stir Big Grin


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Has it occurred to anyone that this woman has committed a felony by recording the conversations of others? Perhaps someone with law enforcement connections in NV should make contact.
 
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Depends on whether or not she participated in the conversation.

In Nevada, if the conversation is a private, in-person conversation, it is legal to record as long as one party is aware of the recording.

If it is a private, over-the-wires conversation (like via telephone), all parties must consent or it is illegal.


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https://law.justia.com/codes/n...200/statute-200.690/

The above is a link to the law. She did NOT participate in the conversation in question. She recorded the conversation of those around her. Those around here did not consent.

I think this is a golden opportunity to make this idiot squirm and think twice before she tries this again.
 
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If she evesdropped on the private conversation and recorded it, without the consent of either of the parties to the private conversation, then she has violated Nevada law (NRS 200.610 et seq). Those, whose private conversations she recorded without their consent, would be the ones to have standing to file a criminal complaint against her. It is a category D felony (1-4 years), and also has financial penalties attached to it ($5K), as well as other financial civil penalties, including punitive damages, which the affected parties could pursue against her.
 
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If she evesdropped on the private conversation and recorded it, without the consent of either of the parties to the private conversation, then she has violated Nevada law (NRS 200.610 et seq). Those, whose private conversations she recorded without their consent, would be the ones to have standing to file a criminal complaint against her. It is a category D felony (1-4 years), and also has financial penalties attached to it ($5K), as well as other financial civil penalties, including punitive damages, which the affected parties could pursue against her.


It sounds like we would have to identify those people whose conversations were recorded and have them file a complaint. Is that correct?
 
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That is correct, as they are the ones whose conversations were illegally recorded. And, after they file a criminal complaint with Nevada authorities in Reno, they could then sue her civilly which would include punitive damages. Problem might be in getting jurisdiction over her sorry British ass, but maybe a warrant issued for her arrest would be a good start if she shows up again. After all, if she did what they have said that she did, that would be a Class D felony punishable by 1-4 years and a 5K fine, in addition to a civil lawsuit. Too bad that they didn't have a felony warrant issued for her right after the show and then contacted Utah authorities when she was at the Sundance Festival in Park City, to arrest her and have her extradited to Nevada. Maybe having it issued now might keep her out of the United States in the future or would get her arrested when she steps on US soil, who knows. I would think that any warrant for her arrest should be in the system if she comes here again, especially a felony warrant.
 
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I am sure she is on facebook.

Why don't some of you who are on that post this little pesky fact for her to enjoy. clap


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I am sure she is on facebook.

Why don't some of you who are on that post this little pesky fact for her to enjoy. clap


Done. left her the following message.

Are you proud of yourself? Perhaps you should look into NRS 200.610 et seq. Law enforcement is. It is a category D felony in the state of Nevada to record the conversation of others without their permission. This is punishable by jail time between 1 & 4 years as well as financial penalties. One can also be the subject of civil suits. The voices of other can clearly be heard in you video clip. Have a nice day!
 
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