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What is the current health and work status of PH Stu Taylor? Has Tim Herald been responsible and supportive of Stu's long term recovery? Thanks | ||
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I would like to know of Stu's health irrespective of Tim Herald's involvement. ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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I hear he is working again. | |||
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 Someones looking to  on Super Bowl Sunday | |||
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Precisely . . . the Martin Pieters carcass is getting a little too picked over. Need some fresh red meat.  Mike | |||
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I don't believe he is working for Kambako any more. He is doing some freelance work in Mozambique and Zimbabwe. Shoulder mobility is way down, but he retook his Zim ph exams and passed with no problems from what I understand. Stu would not want a sympathy booking, but if anybody wants to do a good deed, book a hunt with him. If you need his contact information, feel free to pm me. | |||
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I spoke with Stu at Paul Bennie's office in Bulawayo a little over a year ago. Stu's wife works in the Nengasha office. They had just had a new baby and they all seemed to be doing well. Stu said his shoulder was only at about 50% of original capacity then...but I hear he is back working to some extent. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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I was told last week by a PH that worked with Stu and knows him that Stu had recieved an insurance settlement. I think he said he bought some land in Zim. | |||
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Good to hear Stu is back in the field and doing better again. He had a very tough time for sure... I had a great hunt with him in MOZ in 2009! Which areas has he hunted recently in Zim or Moz? Which outfits? | |||
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Stuart re-did the Zim PHs' shooting proficiency the year after the incident (2 years ago?). It was not a requirement, he just wanted to see how he'd do. If he'd been in it for score he would have "won" it hands-down. It was impressive! | |||
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A top PH that I would use in a heart beat! He still has pain but I doubt that will ever go away | |||
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I agree Adam! Stu is a firstclass PH and a great guy to be around with! | |||
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I heard the same thing from another Zim PH who was there. The following might be of interest to some of you. If it is inappropriate to link to another website, feel free to erase this link. https://www.africahunting.com/...on-stu-taylor.21415/ | |||
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That thread should send Trax into convulsions. He was so sure there was no lawsuit. | |||
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Did he get an insurance settlement? For the life of me I really don't understand why Stu suing Tim, for insurance or otherwise, is so controversial. I gave to one of the Stu funds, but I didn't do it conditionally - if he wanted to use the money to hire a lawyer, that was his call. How many times do folks on AR ask about suing an operator for a crappy hunt? Ok to do that but not okay when your livelihood is taken away? But who knows? Maybe now that Tim Herald bought Cabela's booking agency he can hire Stu to scout out African opportunities. | |||
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There may not have been a lawsuit. Most personal liability payments are paid with no lawsuit if the facts are not in question. ...I say that hunters go into Paradise when they die, and live in this world more joyfully than any other men. -Edward, duke of York ". . . when a man has shot an elephant his life is full." ~John Alfred Jordan "The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance." Cicero - 55 BC "The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities." - Ayn Rand Cogito ergo venor- KPete “It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own self-interest. We address ourselves, not to their humanity but to their self-love, and never talk to them of our own necessities but of their advantages.” ― Adam Smith - “Wealth of Nations” | |||
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Some on here swore it never happened when in fact it did. | |||
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After going thru an accident myself. At some point the docs can do no more. It is what it is. Akrick, Alisa is right. The best thing to do at this point is to book a hunt with him. I have walked in the foot prints of the elephant, listened to lion roar and met the buffalo on his turf. I shall never be the same. | |||
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I think it was Conservation Force, which was collecting donations for him, stopped the process when they found out that the bulk of what they had collected was paid to a lawyer. I seem to remember that, or as Walter keeps saying, might be Alzheimer kicking in! I also seem to remember that Tim was trying everything possible to get Stu whatever money he could. This was an unfortunate accident, and frankly, getting lawyers into it will not be of benefit to anyone except the lawyers. Does any of you take this sort of insurance each time you go to Africa? Why doesn't the PHs cover themselves for. against something like this happening and them loosing a limp and their ability to work?? We collected money for him here in Dubai, and was sent directly to him. I suppose I am like most of those who go hunting in Africa. I take medical and evacuation insurance. Nothing else. Am I the only person who thinks the starter of this thread has something against Tim Herald?? And I will repeat this again. We have absolutely no objection to links to other hunting websites. The more successful ones we have the better for all of us. | |||
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I confirmed that my homeowners liability insurance covers me worldwide including while hunting in Africa. I gave them this specific incident as an example. | |||
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The problem was that Tim was on business. Most homeowners exclude business activity. | |||
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I believe that anyone operating in a "Professional" capacity should insure themselves against injury and disability. Am I wrong in saying that Tims insurance for 3rd party incidents would only pay out if they were sued? Was that not the reason that Stu then made the legal claim? Specialist Outfitters and Big Game Hounds An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill | |||
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That would include the PH would it not? Mike | |||
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Exactly! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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One would think so and Ph/operators would love to and should. HOWEVER despite what the vast majority think here hunting as a career for a PH and an operator here in Zim/Moz if often "hand to mouth". There simply is very little left at the end of the season and as a result things like insurance are left out which is a conscious decision but unfortunately one that when needed and not available is most regretted . | |||
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Buzz may I ask what insurance would cost ? Would not that be like any other business choice and just raise the safari price ? Cost 15K/year have 20 clients/year add another 750. I would think this would be client and PHs and outfitters responsibility. I have a hard time finding a insurance company that would insure me when I go to certain countries let alone another guy from a third world country In some countries in EU you need to show a valid insurance before you get to start hunting - someone just need to make it a standard in Africa also | |||
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Is there anyone selling insurance for ph operating in zim ? Mike | |||
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Availability or unavailability of insurance does not mean clients become the underwriters for accidents. Mike | |||
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Lots of people don't realize living in Africa is no where near like living in the West. | |||
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It probably was the reason. Many insurance companies stonewall until they find out that the claimant is serious or, even worse, offer an unreasonably small amount before the client hires a lawyer hoping to sucker them in unknowingly. As you can probably tell, I am not a fan of insurance companies! USMC Retired DSC Life Member SCI Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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Well said Buzz! Unless a PH has an alternative source of income other than the hunting days he gets paid for, he won't have much room for costly insurance premiums which come in different shapes and sizes and when mention is made about guns and dangerous game so does the premium go haywire! Most of the hunting fraternity keep confusing a PH (hired hand) and Outfitter/Operator (employer) where in some cases the latter doubles up as PH (saves on hiring one). With what a PH gets as a daily rate (varies from country to country, PG & DG, with/without vehicle, etc.) the average fee would probably be around $225/day; RSA outfitters being the worst and TZ probably the best paymasters. There is no PH that I know of who puts in 365 hunting days at whatever rate unless on a fixed salary whether he hunts or not and would not be paid $200/day either! That said, a personal insurance to cover a PH during the course of his activities would take an almighty (un-affordable) chunk out of his meager earnings and the adoption of risk that nothing will happen is the most common option as a form of "insurance cover". | |||
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I have a simpler question - does any company provide health insurance for ph in zim, mos, Tanzania, Botswana, namibIa or South Africa. If one has personal insurance - does one have to disclose occupation. I know of a few guys who have insurance but it covers healthcare for family and won't be much use if mauled or shot. Does any insurance company provide any insurance for companies engaged in hunting aside from vechicle insurance? I would like to know if African hunting is a self insurance set up for all parties. Mike | |||
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Does any insurance company provide any insurance for companies engaged in hunting aside from vehicle insurance? The answer to both is yes. Health does not include a bullet hole or a mauling by a cat. When looking at an optional cover to include the possibility of the above, the Insurers will in most cases "tailor" a policy which will be accompanied by an appropriate price tag, hence the "un-affordable chunk out of his meager earnings". Should the hunting company request a corporate policy for its employees to include health and injury, any injury sustained would be during the course of normal duty which most certainly does not include being accidentally shot, mauled, etc. | |||
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+1 DRSS | |||
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My insurance is a VC 500NE and it cost about $15,000. ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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And in this case, your preference for client to carry an unloaded rifle would help. | |||
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Not in pursuit of DG or in thick cover otherwise I do advise this as a safety measure. ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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