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Anyybody hunted there...know anything about it?


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What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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I haven't hunted there, but really looking into it. checking references on a hunt now.


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I don't think you can hunt there, only around it.


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Okay Atkinson...

Then what's it like around it... Smiler


Mike

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What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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Careful Mike. Ray's not been roping well, lately. You might find yourself next up in the practice chute... Wink

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Steve,

lets plan a pig trip next may...schedule something for coming down here


Mike

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Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.




What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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Mike,

How about April or June? I'm going to be hunting Buff next May with Russ Broom. Wanna go?

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okay...June is probably better as the water strats to dry up and they concentrate...can't go next year I am off to Uraguay


Mike

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Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.




What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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Uruguay...Mike...Uruguay.. Roll Eyes


Not Uraguay !!! Big Grin

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Mike,
I hunted buffalo and plains game at Luke Samaras camp in 2000 which is adjacent to Tarangire. It's old east Africa hunting at it's best. There are alot of Masai. The weather is arid...no mosquitos. In late October ..mid to high 80's and maybe upper 50's at night.
If you go, make arrangements to visit the park..we didn't do this and I regret that. I had a friend who went after I did and said the park was well worth the money and time.
Also, rough and thick bush country tracking buffalo.


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The surrounding areas can be great to terrible, depending on the concession and the available water...Most are fantastic during the rainy season all around the park, as the buff come out, but you can also spend a hunt in your tent or running like hell to get out...I have shot some very big buff in those surrounding areas...but it was never teeming with Buffalo when I hunted there, you were lucky to see a couple of bulls on a 7 day hunt...but if you did they were usually 40 or a bit better, with an ocassional monster tossed in...

But I am of the assumption, that big Buffalo bulls are like gold they are where you find them, be it the Selous, Mayowashi, or Masai Steep, the rest is hype and based on old worn out records and poor reporting....


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Uruguay, a hidden treasure, anyone want to book there, just send me an email and I will set you up with the best outfitter I know in that country! thumb


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208-731-4120

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Steve,

lets plan a pig trip next may...schedule something for coming down here


Where do you hunt pigs?


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Its not Uruguay its Uaregay.
 
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Mike,

Adam Clements hunts Lobo and Lolkisale; both are adjacent to Tarangire. Lolkisale is one of the best areas in Tanzania for classic east africa game: lesser kudu, gerenuk, fringe ear oryx, huge lions. I interviewed several Adam Clements clients and they all rave about Lolkisale, gorgeous, wide open and few Masai and fewer hunters. Classic East Africa. The down side is that it can get dry in Sept-Oct. Game can move to water in Tarangire. Lobo has much more consistent water and is more brushy. This is one of the best areas in Tanzania for monster buff. Check SCI or Rowland Ward. I will hunt Lobo with Adam in August and will post a full report. I am doing a ten day, two buff + plains game hunt. I do not have the funds for a full 21 day hunt or I would be doing a combo of Lobo and Lolkisale!
 
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Mike,

This is obviously a monster, but if you are looking for them, this is a great place. Lobo 1999. Also check Bwana MRM's pic in the Monster Buffalo Award post form a week or two back.

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Ray,
Please give me some inputs about handling difficult clients who don't know how to pronounce southamerican countries....

jump

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Hey gunny,
I've just read your post, good idea, we will change my country name so we can attract more tourism from your neighbourhood !!!

Thanks!! thumb

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Hey gunny,
I've just read your post, good idea, we will change my country name so we can attract more tourism from your neighbourhood !!!

Thanks!! thumb

L


Lorenzo,

You have to go easy on our American friends.

Remember, the British spent 200 years trying to teach them the King's English. When they found it an impossible task, they left in disgust roflmao


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So just what is there to hunt in Uruguay???? bewildered


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Mea culpa.

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Lorenzo, my son, its a hopeless case I fear! lol


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Marauding Elephants Caused Havoc in Monduli District.

Arusha Times (Arusha)

June 4, 2005
Posted to the web June 6, 2005

Staff Writer
Arusha

Northern zone elephants in dire need of space of their own

Between January and April this year, the northern zone experienced several cases of elephants invading human residential areas, incidents that have so far been reported in Monduli district of Arusha, Babati district of Manyara and rural Moshi in Kilimanjaro.


These incidents have been reported to be the result of increased numbers of the Jumbo, whose population has shot up by over 100 percent in the last fifteen years. The Tanzanian Minister for Tourism Zakia Hamdan Meghji, confirmed recently that there were at least 120,000 elephants countrywide, compared with 55,000 reported in 1989.

Marauding elephants caused mass havoc in Monduli distrct, where they destroyed 80 hectares of crops and disrupted learning for children who had to be escorted to school, officials in the area revealed.

"Some parents are even afraid to escort their children for treatment in clinics for fear of encountering the animals," said Anthony Malley, the district commissioner for Monduli.

Most of the damage caused to food crops has been in Mto-wa-Mbu area in Monduli, a district bordering the Lake Manyara and Tarangire national parks.

Malley said the elephants strayed in human settlements mainly because human activities had shrunk animal migratory routes. He said that the animals could also be moving into farms due to a recent increase in their population in the area.

Following the incident, the chairman of the Tanzania National Parks (TANAPA), Emmanuel Balele, said his authority would conduct an elephant census at Tarangire and Lake Manyara parks, a survey, that would involve international wildlife organizations, including the Convention on International Trade and Endangered Species (CITES).

Elephants invasions were also reported in the Mbugwe location of Babati district, last April, where the wild animals destroyed 200 acres of crops in eight villages. Ward counselor John Jeu, said some villagers were forced to leave their homes.


Elephants havocs also occurred in Kilimanjaro region, along the Kenya- Tanzania border. The animals were also reported to have destroyed farms in the area.

Although CITES has banned ivory trade, the government of Tanzania has requested to dispose of 90 mt of elephant tusks it has under tight security. The government has pledged to use the funds from the sale of the tusks for education, health and poverty alleviation projects. Japanese companies have shown interest in buying the tusks.


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