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Marc,

I just read your second post and I hope that we understand each others English now....Holy S**t!

My check for Punki is also in the mail.
 
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To all, thank you! Brittany has done the proper steps to establish the account, and checks should be made out to "Punki Recovery Fund"
address PO Box 33303, Granada Hills, CA 91394.

Again, I appreciate all of your help and, even more, your (general) understanding.

Regards to all, Craig
 
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Marc!!

Take a deep breath now!!

Please forgive me for my choice of words, but I am not as eloquent as Bwana Mojo.

When I called Punki a "poor bastard" I meant it for a person who was unlucky or unfortunate enough to have been mauled by a Leopard and shot by a 300 Win mag.....I can assure you that his financial and/or social status did not come to mind at any point in the process. Why do you read it that way Marc?

Why on earth would I originate a discussion (who's only purpose was to raise some money for this "poor bastard") only to degrade him for his financial/social status?

My heart goes out to Punki and I have nothing but respect and affection for every native tracker, etc that I have had the pleasure of hunting with....there would be NO hunting without them!


My apologies for mis-interpreting your words. Being from Oklahoma, we hear things differently sometimes.
 
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No problem my friend and no need to apologise!

Thank you

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[note: Originally posted on another thread, but perhaps the General did not see it.]


If the injured tracker were to sue BB in her home state of California, under California laws he would certainly prevail. And if the hunt were being filmed for her father to use in a video, his company may also face liability and possibly himself personally as well. Hopefully there won't be any lawyers hunting in Puki's camp during the next couple of years!

So let me address General Boddington directly. Hopefully he will be reading these posts. As a fellow military man, I hope he will consider taking these suggestions to heart.

In order to set an example for the hunting industry, I strongly urge both father and daughter to convert their assets to cash and empty their bank accounts (and retirement savings) in order to pay not only Puki's medical bills, but also a reasonable amount of compensation for having such a horrific thing happen to him. Further, until such amount is fully paid, I would urge father and daughter to give up any hunting and all luxury activities of any sort, as their priority should be taking care of Puki.

Colonel Klink out.

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[note: Originally posted on another thread, but perhaps the General did not see it.]

In order to set an example for the hunting industry, I strongly urge both father and daughter to convert their assets to cash and empty their bank accounts (and retirement savings) in order to pay not only Puki's medical bills, but also a reasonable amount of compensation for having such a horrific thing happen to him. Further, until such amount is fully paid, I would urge father and daughter to give up any hunting and all luxury activities of any sort, as their priority should be taking care of Puki.

Colonel Klink out.

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Wow, somebody made themselves be all, see all. You have got to be kidding (in the most offensive manner available) right? donttroll
 
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I see that my friend Colonel Klink thought so much of his opinion that he posted it on two different threads. So, in case you missed my response, I will do the same:

I think Colonel Klink put it most directly, so I will answer him, but these are thoughts for all. First off, we have indeed reviewed our options, some of which have been reduced, as is the case with many of us, by the economic downturn. I don't think I have the obligation to divulge what I have contributed, but I have scrambled and sold guns I didn't wish to sell, and a lot of money has been transmitted to Namibia.

I seriously doubt that even the best team of lawyers could find me personally liable in any way. The hunt was not my idea, I was 1,000 miles away, and my daughter is an adult. I do not accept her full liability, as she was under the direction of a legally licensed and extremely experienced guide, and she did no more than she was told to do. It is true we had a camera on scene, filming for possible use in a TV show--but we film lots of hunts with lots of outfitters that we are not personally involved with. My involvement is threefold: First, Brittany is my daughter and I stand beside her. Second, Corne and Nic Kruger are my friends, and I stand beside them. Third, I have hunted with Punki. He is a great guy and he is also my friend. I stand beside him.

The unfortunate reality is that the insurance coverage that we all believed was in place will not cover this situation. There are multiple reasons for this. They include: The decision was made to take Punki to the best medical care in Windhoek. I support this decision, because it is probable that this is the reason Punki is recovering, rather than in his grave. There is also the complex situation that Punki is a South African citizen, in Namibia on a valid work permit--but still not a Namibian. In Africa it is not as simple as it seems in the U.S.

Further to Colonel Klink: My bank accounts are empty. I'm sure you have the means to check. As someone else said, my daughter is a young girl. She is legally an adult, but she has no property, and she needs her (well-used) car to go to work. In any case, it is worth less than her payments. And my house is now worth less than the mortgage. As for "luxury activities," I have none, and can honestly say I haven't taken a vacation in at least 20 years. As for cessation of hunting until this is handled, well, this is what I do for a living. It will not do me, Punki, or my family any good if I quit working for six months or a year. As for Brittany, I can assure you she is doing everything she possibly can. As am I, and as are our friends at Omujeve.

We did examine our options, and one of them was for Brittany to establish the "Punki Recovery Fund." As I have said, I am extremely grateful to any of you who see fit to help. I truly believe this could have happened to any of us--and the insurance issue is a massive wakeup call. But I will not beg, and I have no issues with anyone who chooses not to assist--but I truly appreciate the support from those of you who wish to. I have huge issues with anyone who attempts to judge. Got it, Colonel Klink?
Regards to all, Craig
 
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In order to set an example for the hunting industry, I strongly urge both father and daughter to convert their assets to cash and empty their bank accounts (and retirement savings) in order to pay not only Puki's medical bills, but also a reasonable amount of compensation for having such a horrific thing happen to him. Further, until such amount is fully paid, I would urge father and daughter to give up any hunting and all luxury activities of any sort, as their priority should be taking care of Puki.


I think old Klinky is a paid up member of PETA!

If any of us ever thinks this what his hunt might turn to, there will be no more hunting.


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Klink i gotta say are you an ass do you read what you type for god shakes Everyone on this fourm just got dumber because of that post donttroll
 
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Colonel Klink which branch salvation army maybe ?
 
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Perhaps you gentlemen can explain why you feel it is wrong for a person to be responsible for the damage caused by his errant bullet?
 
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Col. Klunk is just jealous, obviously. His comments speak to his character. Most military folks I know would always help a fellow veteran (and his family) when the need arises rather than berate one in a public forum such as AR (especially considering that the Gen. didn't have anything to do with the incident).


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I'll have to say that Colonel Klink certainly picked an appropriate screen name and avatar.

Where's Hogan when you need him??


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Number 1 wasent his bullet number 2 giving the situation it was an accident just as im sure you where but regaurdless was an accident what justice do you seek for the family to be tarred and feathered please arm chair laywers and arm chair hunters these days
 
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Perhaps you gentlemen can explain why you feel it is wrong for a person to be responsible for the damage caused by his her errant bullet?


I think you have the wrong picture here, Einstein. Isn't the man here asking for help [because] he feels responsible to help Mr. Punki? And he is doing it despite having to respond to comments like the one you posted.


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donttroll seems to me Klink is a troll
 
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donttroll seems to me Klink is a troll


Indeed, soon due for the ignore list.


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Mr Boddington,

It is reprehincible that you have to read some of the comments on these threads. Especially from the likes of (Colonial Klink ; AKA Katie Couric; LOL).
Not a laughing matter.
It would appear there are far more on this forum understanding of yours and your daughters dilemma with heartfelt support.
You cannot change the past. Forge ahead, do what you do best! Love your daughter!

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I hope everything turns out well. I'll send a check as soon as I get to the bank.
 
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As said elsewhere, the price of the hunt was set with all parties knowing that there were risks, including the risk of an accident. The dog handler accepted his job at a given salary full well knowing the risk of leopard attack and the risk of participating in a high adrenaline hunt with powerful rifles. What occurred was not unforeseen or unpredictable. It is the natural result of a hunt - sooner or later it was going to happen to someone. The client should not have to pay anything additional.
 
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[ (Colonial Klink ; AKA Katie Couric;= Axel,judy,todde????
 
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Klink, I usually ignore people like you as you serve no purpose but to cause trouble. Unfortunately I am drawn to this thread and I must ask a question.

What zoo allows their inmates to use the computer and internet? Confused

Mr. Boddington, you are a true gentleman of moral and temperment. You owe this person no response.

Best wishes to all involved in this most unfortunate situation.
 
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I have a great idea for Mr. Boddington. My recommendation is that he pays no further attention to what is posted here on this matter. Some of these guys need a reality check.

If he has done anything, it is more than he is obligated to do.
 
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In Idaho, we have, as do several other states; the "Good Samaritan Law". It precludes those who try to help others in a serious health situation from being sued as a result of their efforts to help.

Klunk: care to hazard a guess what would have happened if Brittany had stayed out of the scuffle. I see you as some small person, lacking in the most basic emotion of humankind: pity.
You are also someone who is truly embarrassed (with good cause, I must add) to identify themselves. You are the one who deserves our pity here if this is how you are in your own life.

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I would encourage everyone to ignore this post and let it go away.
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I am really surprised by the vitriolic attacks. Isn't this a "forum" where opinions can be discussed, or are we all required to conform to an opinion issued by the site owners?

The principle I am suggesting be followed is that of [u][b]PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY[/][/u]. That means being responsible for the consequences of your conduct. If you father a child, then raise that child. If you have an auto accident, then pay for the damage. And if you accidentally shoot a person, then take care of it.

What is wrong with that? Although you fine gentlemen have piled on with the personal attacks, you have not explained why you think it is ok for a person to shoot another human being and then just walk away.
 
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I am really surprised by the vitriolic attacks. Isn't this a "forum" where opinions can be discussed, or are we all required to conform to an opinion issued by the site owners?

The principle I am suggesting be followed is that of [u][b]PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY[/][/u]. That means being responsible for the consequences of your conduct. If you father a child, then raise that child. If you have an auto accident, then pay for the damage. And if you accidentally shoot a person, then take care of it.

What is wrong with that? Although you fine gentlemen have piled on with the personal attacks, you have not explained why you think it is ok for a person to shoot another human being and then just walk away.


Roll over Klink, move on!
 
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ok for a person to shoot another human being and then just walk away.


Hmmm , let me think are they wearing a Nazi Uniform rotflmo


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It seems that the Boddingtons are doing a lot more, than many would do, in the same circumstances.

Not only for Punki, but by releasing all the information on the incident.

A similiar situation could happen to ANYONE of us tommorrow, whether in Africa, on our local hunting lease, or if a CHL carrier buying milk at the local convience store, durring a robbery.


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Hmmm , let me think are they wearing a Nazi Uniform rotflmo


Was does Nationalsozialistische Partei have to do with this shooting accident Frowner

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It seems that the Boddingtons are doing a lot more, than many would do, in the same circumstances.

Not only for Punki, but by releasing all the information on the incident.

A similiar situation could happen to ANYONE of us tommorrow, whether in Africa, on our local hunting lease, or if a CHL carrier buying milk at the local convience store, durring a robbery.


You are right. Must of the rest of us would cut a check, or try to make other arrangements to pay for our mistake.

I think the openness about this tragedy of Boddington and his daughter is admirable but also inevitable given his status. Getting the truth out helps forestall reports like the other one mentioned here.

It's only when you are famous that normal, ordinary people will give you money to help correct your problems in the hopes of some 'stardust' rubbing off. I wonder how he can sit with all the hickeys on his Butt.

I thought a lot more of Boddington before he agreed to accept the money.


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I slightly disagree with your post, as I have known of several incidents were someone has been "hurt" requiring a LOT of Medical expense, or a child has become sick, and again requiring a lot of medical expense and "Funds" have been started.

NONE of these involved "famous" persons.

Sometimes it is necessary to give blood, sometimes it is money that is needed.


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I thought a lot more of Boddington before he agreed to accept the money..


Okay Gator1, who do you think should have been put in charge of accepting the donations?


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Hmmm , let me think are they wearing a Nazi Uniform rotflmo


Was does Nationalsozialistische Partei have to do with this shooting accident Frowner

Why do people always insults us Germans. I am confused


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Sometimes it is necessary to give blood, sometimes it is money that is needed.


Yes thumb - and we offer what we can. That is part of what makes us a community. Dip-wads included. If they need emergency help, I'll be there for them as well.
 
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It seems to me that this whole thing would be handled differently if Punki were white.
 
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It seems to me that this whole thing would be handled differently if Punki were white.


Care to clarify on this one?

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