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24 April 2020, 07:03
Aaron Rust
My plain jane sarfari rifles - seeking advice
First is an H. Dumoulin 30-06. I bought it a couple years ago and refinished it this week.




Second is a Husqvarna 9.3x57 that I will rechamber to 62mm. My dilemma is I cant decide if I should drill and tap, change the bolt handle and such. If I do I'll do a straight rigby style bolt handle. I'll used talley mounts and cut a slot through the stripper clip guide for the base. I had this done on another rifle i sold. I still maintained the nice bluing. My eyes are not the greatest and I'd have to keep it for a bush rifle and not make long shots with it if I leave the receiver holeless. But i do have a Griffin and how mount and rings somewhere. I cannot remember if it is one inch or smaller rings. The mount will have to be refinished if I go that route. I'm really in a quandary as what to do.



24 April 2020, 07:08
Aaron Rust
Before anyone roast me, I didn't sand the stock on the dumoulin. The horn plate was proud when I got it. I need to fit it better.
24 April 2020, 08:32
fulvio
The coffee-bean bag fits well into the photos.
24 April 2020, 08:50
JBrown
quote:
Originally posted by Aaron Rust:

Second is a Husqvarna 9.3x57 that I will rechamber to 62mm. My dilemma is I cant decide if I should drill and tap, change the bolt handle and such. If I do I'll do a straight rigby style bolt handle. I'll used talley mounts and cut a slot through the stripper clip guide for the base.

I'm really in a quandary as what to do.


It's a husky, I would drill and tap it without a second thought. You are already rechambering it after all....

I would not cut the charger hump, not even a slot. Talk to your gunsmith and find out what type of base they can modify to work with the charger hump in place. Another option would me a custom base for the rear. I know of at least two smiths who can make a base for a reasonable cost.


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24 April 2020, 08:53
LHeym500
Those rifles are not plai. They are classic beautiful.

I do not like glammed up women or rifles.
24 April 2020, 10:16
Cougarz
quote:
Originally posted by LHeym500:
Those rifles are not plai. They are classic beautiful.

I do not like glammed up women or rifles.


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24 April 2020, 10:27
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Nice looking rifles Aaron.

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24 April 2020, 12:42
Kuwinda
I was in Gregor McLeod's gunshop in Tain one day and he had a 100+ year old Rigby 275 on the counter - no gun cabinet queen this had obviously taken thousands of deer in its time with a patina to match - and it had no scope, drillings or dovetails of any kind - exactly as your 9.3.

It would have been sacrilege to mess with this - as with yours. In a rechambered form (62mm) it might be more useful. If you need a scoped 9.3 get a CZ - very much in the same vein.

You have really nice rifles.
24 April 2020, 13:48
Jazman
And what is wrong with that? Very nice tool you got there
24 April 2020, 13:48
BNagel
By the time you've worked through that bag of coffee, you'll have it sorted. Beautiful weapons! Eyes can't be fixed -- buy a 9.3 x 62 you can scope. coffee


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24 April 2020, 18:18
wwgreener
Warne makes steel bases which will fit the Husky with the charger lump in place.
24 April 2020, 19:57
MacD37
AAron, what you have there are some very good rifles. They are simply classic CRF actions that have been taking game of all sorts and in every part of the world, and the design has not been improved in 100 years as far as quality is concerned.
Most of the bolt rifles today are the product of saving money not improving them, by cheap push-feed actions and telling the young shooters that this is an improvement.
In my opinion there has never been a better made action than the pair you have there.
To top that off both are classic beauties!
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24 April 2020, 19:58
Aaron Rust
quote:
Originally posted by BNagel:
By the time you've worked through that bag of coffee, you'll have it sorted. Beautiful weapons! Eyes can't be fixed -- buy a 9.3 x 62 you can scope. coffee


The local coffee roaster gave me the bag to do whatever with... she said don't drink it... it isn't good. I mixed good coffee with this coffee 9:1 ratio. It made my good coffee BITTER! So this is going in the garden I guess.
24 April 2020, 20:07
gbs
Nice rifles.

If you do not want to put a scope on the rifle an alternate would be a peep sight. With a large hole they are quick and much easier with older eyes. I seem to remember there was a peep sight that mounted on the rear ring behind the clip slot.
24 April 2020, 21:18
MARK H. YOUNG
Aaron,

I wouldn't hesitate a minute before scoping the Husky. It'll just make the rifle far more useful If you're going to really hunt with it. In my mind any rifle from 375 downward should be scoped for maximum usability.

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24 April 2020, 23:25
Aaron Rust
I have this...



Must i use an old scope with removable ocular bell? That is what I guess... It has 1" rings
25 April 2020, 00:30
JORGE01
I have a Husqvarna Mod. 146 in 9.3x57 just like yours. I had the rifle refinished since it had seen very hard use. I had the same cross bolts added. The rifle is a joy to carry, but it belts you when fired. I would not add a scope to it because either you have to alter the bolt and safety or the scope has to be put to high in my opinion, which makes felt recoil even worse. Just buy a Ruger 77 African in 9.3x62 or a CZ 550 in the same caliber before they run out of them and the price goes ski high. By the way your rifles are a joy to behold.
25 April 2020, 02:31
fairgame
Desirables but not collectibles. Guns are tools and when you die they will be trashed along with all your other stuff.

If it shoots well then the angle of a bolt handle or the pattern of the wood is completely irrelevant.

Just look at Saeed's guns.


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25 April 2020, 02:38
Biebs
quote:
Just look at Saeed's guns.

For sure! Looks like he's on Food Stamps :-)
25 April 2020, 02:50
Russ Gould
quote:
sarfari rifles - seeking advice

One of them should be a 404 "Jeffari" with a ghost ring ... the other is fine as it is (either one).


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25 April 2020, 03:26
Frostbit
quote:
Originally posted by fulvio:
The coffee-bean bag fits well into the photos.


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25 April 2020, 03:28
Frostbit
quote:
Originally posted by Biebs:
quote:
Just look at Saeed's guns.

For sure! Looks like he's on Food Stamps :-)


You should see his house. Has a big long hole in the basement and animals crapping all over the yard. dancing


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25 April 2020, 05:39
Aaron Rust
I feel kinda stupid asking this question but...
How do you mount a scope with this type of ring? did the old scopes mount only on the front side of the turrents or do you take the ocular off?
Aaron
25 April 2020, 09:51
Charles_Helm
quote:
Originally posted by fairgame:
Desirables but not collectibles. Guns are tools and when you die they will be trashed along with all your other stuff.


My girls swear they won't...and I hope they won't...but I guess if I am dead it doesn't matter.


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29 April 2020, 22:23
Dave James
Aaron, appears to be an old Griffin & Howe mount, pic is fuzzy on my puter, give them a call maybe able to get you a set of new split rings for it


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30 April 2020, 03:46
Michael Robinson
That Dumoulin is a fine rifle. Not plain Jane at all.

It does need a Schmidt und Bender scope, however, IMHO.

Otherwise, I would not do a thing with it, except shoot it until I died, and then pass it along to an appreciative heir.


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30 April 2020, 07:48
fulvio
quote:
Originally posted by Aaron Rust:
I feel kinda stupid asking this question but...
How do you mount a scope with this type of ring? did the old scopes mount only on the front side of the turrents or do you take the ocular off?
Aaron


Its a Griffin & Howe detachable sliding sliding mount that runs along a precisely machined dovetail base.

My lowly 375 Churchill is fitted with one supplied/installed by Paul Roberts of London Rigby way back in the mid-80s.

Still holding good and true to this day.

I would keep it on as it was a fashionable scope mount back then and adds value to the rifle.
07 May 2020, 09:58
JeffreyPhD
quote:
Originally posted by LHeym500:
Those rifles are not plai. They are classic beautiful.

I do not like glammed up women or rifles.


Neither can be trusted! These rifles are very nice.
07 May 2020, 20:09
nopride2
The rifles are fine just as they are. I personally don't like the look of the G&H side mount. They served a purpose years ago. Now there are reliable and better looking mounts available.

Dave
07 May 2020, 20:11
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07 May 2020, 21:17
packrattusnongratus
A wonderful pair of rifles. I like peep sights. So I would use the mount you have and have peep sights for the cocking piece on each if possible. Be Well, Packy.