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PH Peter Wood of Roger Whittall safaris recently helped a client find this elephant in Mozambique. Pete is currently down with malaria so unfortunately I have no other details at this time.

Photo of Mr. Wood with the ivory:

 
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Those have to be pushing 100 pounds. Cant wait for the details.



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Congratulation to the hunter and the ph. malaria really sucks...

Nice ivory!!! Can`t get enough of that wonderful stuff. Thanks for sharing 500gr.

Not being an ivory estimating pro it looks like +- 9o lbs. This tusk would be perfect for everybodys trophy hall entrance door. especially at my own.
 
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I have heard on the hunters' grapevine that they are 100 pounds. Also waiting to hear more.
Congratulations to all, regardless of the weight. Remarkable ivory. Makorokoto Pete!

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what an elephant!!! Great! How many pounds?


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Wow! a matched pair. I would think they are in the mid 90s. This is the most beautiful pair I have seen in a while.

The base of tusk on the right looks like it was damaged during removal.
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Damn nice pearly whites, Hope the guy is not from US, be a shame to leave that behind beer


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Incredible nice looking Set of Tusks.

Congratulation to the hunter and PH.

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Great elephant! It's nice to know that superb trophies such as this are still available in Africa. What a lifetime ele???

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If the client is an American all he can do is look at his pictures... Hopeing someday they can be imported to the USA... CRYBABY


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If the client is an American all he can do is look at his pictures... Hopeing someday they can be imported to the USA... CRYBABY


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An American could have the ivory stored at a friend's house in Canada or Mexico (or elsewhere) until such time as the USA allows import of Moz ivory.
 
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Excellent!!!



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I am thinking 92 on the left and 98 on the right.


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2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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Well, I wish Peter Wood would get over his bout of malaria and give us the official weight. Must be the longest bout of malaria in the history of mankind!
 
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103 & 106 =)
 
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BTW...I have no clue about tusk weights...I just figured this was the internet so I can pose as an expert anyway...

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What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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I know peter personally. Sorry to hear he's down again.


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I know peter personally. Sorry to hear he's down again.


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anyone know if Moz is working towards the required studies and paperwork to be CITES legal for elephant?
 
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anyone know if Moz is working towards the required studies and paperwork to be CITES legal for elephant?


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Mozambique is fine with CITES - it's USF&W that has the problem. We can export elephant products - with CITES permits - to everywhere in the world except the USA. There are a few past posts on this subject, so I don't want to repeat it all.

The officials in Moz say they are working on the issue, but it is anybody's guess with what intensity!


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so is dan back on the forums??

and thats sum fantastic ivory....
 
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Nice. My guess is 86 and 80.
 
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so is dan back on the forums??

and thats sum fantastic ivory....


Unfortunately not, this post was started some time ago. Mad

Tha African Hunting forum has lost a wealth of knowledge as a result of his banning. Very sad. Frowner

A lot of folk don't know he was dismissed because every time a post like this one appears (to inform others) it is deleted by our moderator. It's called censorship, something that the folks in the USA will have to get used to with the new administration.

Wonder how long this post will last? thumbdown
 
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excellent ivory ....that must have been an old bull , his genes spread wide and far before he was taken !! Wink


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Very nice indeed. Wink

Mozambique has some very nice Elephants.

FWIW, the last time I heard from the US F&W people they said they don't issue import permits to Mozambique Elephant products because they don't consider the country has an acceptable Elephant management programme in place......... personally, I think their management plan is no worse and probably better than some other African countries that are acceptable to the US F&WS. Roll Eyes

Hopefully it'll get changed at some point. Wink






 
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Steve

This classic piece came to mind ...

"God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change; the courage to change the things I can; and the wisdom to know the difference."

We just sell the elephant safaris to the rest of the world until the USF&W changes their ruling! The "show must go on", despite them playing silly buggers ...


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Thanks for the information. Sounds like status quo. I plan to hunt elephant but have not decided on a return trip to Tanzania vs. Botswana vs. Zim. I have talked with Johan Calitz and would love to see the Okavango. Would love to hear others input about blocks of choice and timing.
 
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WOW!!!
hope someday to have such luck Big Grin

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