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LEOPARD SUPPORT UPDATE 12-21-2016 We are doing better! We have 71 of the 112 comments made so far to stop USFWS from reclassifying the African Leopard on the ESA Endangered Species List to “Endangered” status. Let Africa sustainable use management work for the wildlife and for Africans! As of today, 12-21-2016 Hunters and Conservationists that have posted comment to USFWS to stop the up-listing of Leopard to Endangered status on USFWS comment page: https://www.regulations.gov/do...=FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131 We can do better!!!! Every hunter, PH, Outfitter and Conservationist worldwide, please go and make your voice heard and make your comment to stop the reclassification to Endangered! THANK YOU for those that have made comment for the Leopard! 12/12/2016 Cliff Tulpa FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0010 12/12/2016 Aaron Raby FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0009 12/12/2016 Robert Garcia FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0008 12/13/2016 Dave Hagstrom FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0013 12/13/2016 Rich Maggart FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0014 12/13/2016 Mike Briganti FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0019 12/13/2016 Eugene Jansen FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0011 12/13/2016 Steve Hofmann FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0012 12/13/2016 Bill Galli FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0016 12/13/2016 Leon Worried FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0020 12/13/2016 Coenie Anonymous FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0015 12/13/2016 Calvin Anonymous FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0017 12/13/2016 Anonymous FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0018 12/14/2016 Anthony Russo FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0021 12/14/2016 Jovine Nachihangu FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0022 12/15/2016 Phil Soucy FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0023 12/15/2016 Codi W. FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0024 12/16/2016 Blondie Leathem FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0025 12/19/2016 Sebastian Jonker FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0097 12/19/2016 David Shires FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0099 12.19.2016 Pamela Deventer FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0104 12/19/2016 Theunis Botha FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0096 12/19/2016 Nikita Dalke FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0052 12/19/2016 Tim Martin FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0090 12/19/2016 Pieter Kriel FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0032 12/19/2016 Pieter Potgieter FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0093 12/19/2016 Greg Michelson FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0094 12/19/2016 Anonymous FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0038 12/19/2016 Shaun Keeny FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0089 12/19/2016 Jeff Langedyke FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0076 12/19/2016 Anonymous Rancher FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0031 12/19/2016 Mike Angelides FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0084 12/19/2016 Jonathan Howells FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0086 12/19/2016 Boeta Steenekamp FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0092 12/19/2016 Tony Du Bruyn FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0035 12/19/2016 Ken du Plessis FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0037 12/19/2016 Hendrik Botha FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0078 12/19/2016 Simone x FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0088 12/19/2016 Jeremy Wall FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0075 12/19/2016 Wade Renfro FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0073 12/19/2016 Andrew van HeerdenFWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0079 12/19/2016 Graeme Pollock FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0102 12/19/2016 Stephan Stamm FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0105 12/19/2016 Erwin Kruger FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0083 12/19/2016 Scott van Zyl FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0058 12/19/2016 Mark Murphy FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0098 12/19/2016 AJ Oosthuizen FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0040 12/19/2016 Wernher Albertse FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0091 12/19/2016 John Martins FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0077 12/19/2016 Brad Birkholtz FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0053 12/19/2016 Clint Smith FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0028 12/19/2016 Anonymous – local FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0087 12/19/2016 Andr Potgieter FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0080 12/19/2016 Maro Du Plessis FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0070 12/19/2016 Sean Outram FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0062 12/19/2016 Anonymous FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0071 12/19/2016 Anonymous FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0100 12/19/2016 Eli Gourdin FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0027 12/19/2016 Harpreet Brar FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0081 12/19/2016 Fernando Martnez FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0074 12/19/2016 Andrew Baldry FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0063 12/19/2016 Anonymous FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0072 12/19/2016 Rudie de Waal FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0103 12/19/2016 Nick van Zyl FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0101 12/19/2016 Robin Hurt FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0082 12/19/2016 Anonymous FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0085 12/20/2016 Daniel Moore FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0111 12/20/2016 Rudolf Graupner FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0108 12/20/2016 Wikus Groenewald FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0112 12/21/2016 John Canon FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0113 12/21/2016 Anonymous FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131-0114 Please go online and make comment to USFWS! Every comment helps! https://www.regulations.gov/do...=FWS-HQ-ES-2016-0131 or if busy, can try this one https://www.regulations.gov/docketBrowser… Tim | ||
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Will definitely comment. thank you for posting!! | |||
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done Good Hunting, Tim Herald Worldwide Trophy Adventures tim@trophyadventures.com | |||
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Posted. 1k0-8tqg-j13x | |||
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Made a comment, but honestly I am unsure of how much value someone who does not have citable sources can have here. | |||
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Done " Until the day breaks and the nights shadows flee away " Big ivory for my pillow and 2.5% of Neanderthal DNA flowing thru my veins. When I'm ready to go, pack a bag of gunpowder up my ass and strike a fire to my pecker, until I squeal like a boar. Yours truly , Milan The Boarkiller - World according to Milan PS I have big boar on my floor...but it ain't dead, just scared to move... Man should be happy and in good humor until the day he dies... Only fools hope to live forever “ Hávamál” | |||
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That was my concern, too. I posted several comments a couple of weeks ago on this thread http://forums.accuratereloadin...1411043/m/3611000722 trying to understand who might be representing our interests and able to provide scientific evidence. I understand now that Conservation Force is, not sure about DSC, SCI or others. I'll make a comment as suggested, but it seems to me that the real effort is to provide evidence to refute HSUS' claims. NRA benefactor life member SCI life member DSC life member | |||
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I have received stuff from both SCI and CF stating they are working on it. Hope with a new SOI we might be able to have a reasonable hearing with concerns passed to the range states and given a chance to correct deficiencies before going straight to administrative actions. | |||
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I agree with Mr. Butler, and hope with our new Secretary of Interior he will appoint a strong hunter advocate to administer fish and feathers. Tim | |||
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Tim, Thanks for posting. I too went out to comment. This whole thing is crazy. It never ceases to amaze me how so many misinformed people all comment based on emotion. There are TONS of Leopards in Sub Saharan Africa. | |||
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A bit of advice. Give a unique comment. Form letters or similar comments are treated as 1 even if they receive a thousand replies saying the same thing. Brett DRSS Life Member SCI Life Member NRA Life Member WSF Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick. And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too. May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep. May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip. -Seth Peterson | |||
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Done! "At least once every human being should have to run for his life - to teach him that milk does not come from the supermarket, that safety does not come from policemen, and that news is not something that happens to other people." - Robert Heinlein | |||
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Done Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333 Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com NRA Benefactor DSC Professional Member SCI Member RMEF Life Member NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor NAHC Life Member Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt: http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262 Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142 Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007 http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007 16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more: http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409 Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311 Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941 10 days in the Stormberg Mountains http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322 Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232 "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running...... "If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you." | |||
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The website now says "comments not accepted" Dave | |||
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Done. I had no difficulty posting my comment just a moment ago. | |||
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Done. This was so painlessly easy it is hard to believe that it has anything to do with the federal government. Maybe I missed it but have DSC or SCI sent out a link for members to submit comments? Mike | |||
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The site doesn't have anything to do with the US government. The site is managed by "The eRulemaking Program Management Office, with the assistance of partner Federal agencies, manages Regulations.gov. The eRulemaking Program was created in 2002 as an E-Government project and is managed by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency." They simply record your data. Who the hell knows what they do with it other than record your information. Maybe they pass along your informaiton to other government agencies like the IRS. But who the hell knows with this Administration; the most transparent in history. If you want your voice heard, contact the USFWS directly. This is another one of those situations where you believe you are doing something when in fact you aren't - but I believe that was the intent when the site was put up. ___________________ Just Remember, We ALL Told You So. | |||
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Done. Hope it does some good. "Never, ever, book a hunt with Jeri Booth or Detail Company Adventures" | |||
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Done! Bob It's better to shoot for the moon and hit the fencepost than to shoot for the fencepost and hit the ground! | |||
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Done. JEB Katy, TX Already I was beginning to fall into the African way of thinking: That if you properly respect what you are after, and shoot it cleanly and on the animal's terrain, if you imprison in your mind all the wonder of the day from sky to smell to breeze to flowers—then you have not merely killed an animal. You have lent immortality to a beast you have killed because you loved him and wanted him forever so that you could always recapture the day - Robert Ruark DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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Opus1, Thank you for the information. I will try to find USFWS link that maybe I can forward my comments. Hopefully SCI, DSC and others are working on the issue as well. Tim | |||
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DSC is on it, not sure about SCI. http://dscnewscenter.org/2016/...r-leopard-uplisting/ Once again, the anits are using a little bit of fact to push their agenda. There are places in Northern Africa where leopard are indeed in danger, but Sub-Saharan populations are stable and sustainable in most areas. ___________________ Just Remember, We ALL Told You So. | |||
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Done, thank you for the ease of getting to the right area >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "You've got the strongest hand in the world. That's right. Your hand. The hand that marks the ballot. The hand that pulls the voting lever. Use it, will you" John Wayne | |||
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So is SCI: https://www.safariclub.org/wha...out-african-leopards | |||
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Just got the below that was posted on facebook from the SCI Blog Dec 28, 2016 SCI and the SCI Foundation are working together to respond to the latest attempt by anti-hunting groups to interfere with sustainable use conservation. Most recently, these animal rights groups have focused their efforts on African leopards. In response to a petition filed in July 2016 by the Humane Society of the United States, Humane Society International, Center for Biological Diversity, International Fund for Animal Welfare and Fund for Animals, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service announced a 90-day finding that an endangered listing for all African leopards currently listed as threatened “may be warranted.” The FWS’s 90-day finding DOES NOT MEAN that all African leopards are now listed as endangered. Currently, leopards in 18 countries in Africa south of and including Gabon, Congo, Zaire, Uganda and Kenya remain listed as threatened. The FWS makes a “90-day finding” based on very limited data – solely on the information submitted with the petition and any data already in the FWS’s own files. The FWS must collect far more data in order to make a decision whether to list a species. If the FWS makes a “may be warranted” 90-day finding, as it has for the African leopard, it must next complete a thorough status review, known as a “12-month finding.” To complete this task, the FWS must evaluate the “best scientific and commercial data available” to determine whether the petitioned action is “warranted.” In the Federal Register notice announcing the 90-day finding for the African leopard, the FWS itself stated “[b]ecause the Act’s standards for 90-day and 12-month findings are different, a substantial 90-day finding does not mean that the 12-month finding will result in a ‘warranted’ finding.” Currently, the FWS is soliciting comments from the public including “scientific and commercial data and other information” regarding the African leopard to help inform its 12-month finding. SCI’s Litigation Department attorneys and SCI Foundation’s biologists are working together to prepare comments that provide both scientific and legal information that will help the FWS to make a determination that will not interfere with or harm ongoing sustainable use conservation of the African leopard. Comments are due on or before January 30, 2017. If the FWS does make a 12-month finding that a species-wide endangered listing “is warranted” it will then publish a proposed rule to list the African leopard as endangered and will again solicit public comment on its proposed decision. If it becomes necessary, SCI and SCIF will collaborate on additional comments at that time, as well as evaluating other potential courses of action. The listing process, regardless of its possible outcome, will take the FWS many months to complete. Currently, all African leopards are listed on CITES Appendix I and CITES has established maximum export quotas for the exportation of trophies from twelve African countries. In 2016, a handful of these countries made the requisite findings for exportation of legally hunted leopards. The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service has published a fact sheet that describes the process for importing legally sport-hunted leopards into the United States: https://www.fws.gov/internatio...rt-hunted-trophy.pdf Unrelated to the petition submitted by the anti-hunting groups, the Republic of South Africa did not export leopards in 2016 because its biologists were unable to make the required CITES determination that the export of leopards would not be detrimental to the survival of the species. SCI Foundation believes that it is probable that South Africa will not have the information they will need to reverse that decision in 2017. The SCI Foundation has offered to assist South Africa with their data collection process to help them achieve a non-detriment finding. SCI Foundation’s biologists will be meeting with a delegation from South Africa at the SCI Annual Convention to further address this issue. SCI and SCIF will continue their work on this issue and to make every effort to ensure that the FWS has the best legal and scientific data available with which to make its decisions. In addition, we will continue to update the SCI membership as developments occur. SCI and the SCI Foundation will also be presenting the most recent information at a seminar at the SCI Convention entitled “Where Are We Now – The Latest on Elephants, Lions and Leopards” on Wednesday, February 1, 2017, Lagoon K-L, Mandalay Bay Convention Center, Las Vegas, Nevada, 2:00 P.M. – 3:00 P.M. Tim | |||
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Conservation Force is hard at work preparing for the leopard fight at all stages and places. We do have two suggestions to those making comments due at the end of January on the government's portal so that they will be more effective. First, set forth the basis of your expertise, knowledge, opinion, facts or whatever. This will give your opinion and facts more weight and perhaps even raise it to a "substantive information" level that must be treated substantively by FWS. Second, be fact specific rather than opinionated. Some quick, random examples: (1)I am a safari hunter with first-hand personal experience with the abundance of leopard. In the Selous Reserve in Tanzania last year we put out 3 baits and had 5 leopards on them immediately. (2) I am a degreed biologist, turned PH and am keenly observant of leopard abundance in/at xxxx. Leopard are as abundant as ever and this is why I believe... (3) I am a hunting operator with xx years of field experience. In Mozambique, we are required to do an annual report to the wildlife department on animal status. We have no trouble whatsoever taking mature males. Moreover we are part of Niassa's leopard program, i.e., every leopard taken is photographed body and teeth in detail. There is no decline. To the contrary the population has been growing, trophy quality is improving, our success rate is 100 percent. I hope this helps! John Jackson, ConservationForce | |||
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This bullshit will all end on January 20th or soon thereafter. I'm sure Eric will have a few words with his dad about the infestation of hunting hating democrats permeating USFWS. USN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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Thank you Mr. Jackson, your information is very helpful. Tim | |||
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Please see Conservation Force's Comment on the Status Review of the African Leopard http://www.conservationforce.org/news-updates-alerts | |||
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Very thorough and well positioned. One would think the data and position put forth would be somewhat unassailable. But, of course, politics ....... let's hope the changes will be made to the USFWS | |||
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https://www.safariclub.org/wha...-on-african-leopards SCI Letter Prompts U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service to Reopen Comment Period on African Leopards Feb 21, 2017 The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS) just informed SCI that it will be reopening the comment period on its recent 90-day finding on the listing status of African leopards. The FWS is opening this new comment period in response to a letter sent by SCI, informing the FWS of an error in the FWS’s original 90-day finding. SCI pointed out that FWS had incorrectly described the range of the leopards currently listed as threatened. FWS acknowledged the error and informed SCI that the FWS would be republishing a corrected version of the 90-day finding in May 2017. leopardsThe FWS explained that it would be giving the public an additional 60-days to submit information on whether an uplisting of African leopards from threatened to endangered status is warranted. While FWS prefers the public submit information during the comment period, it explained that the FWS will continue to receive information about African leopards at any time until it completes its “status review” on the species. The FWS informed SCI that it does not intend to publish its decision on the African leopard status review during the 2017 fiscal year, which will end on September 30, 2017. The letter did not specify how soon after September 30th the FWS will complete the status review. When the FWS finishes its status review, it will either make a finding that uplisting from threatened to endangered is not warranted, or will propose a rule to uplist African leopards to endangered status. Proposing a rule will require FWS to open another public comment opportunity and take the time to consider those comments before making a final decision. The FWS’s letter confirms that it will not change the listing status of the African leopard between now and September 30, 2017, and likely not for several months after that, if at all. During this period SCI, working with the SCI Foundation, will continue to help range countries and experts in African leopard biology provide FWS with information to show that the uplisting of African leopards is not necessary. Kathi kathi@wildtravel.net 708-425-3552 "The world is a book, and those who do not travel read only one page." | |||
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