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MikeLegistine actu quod scripsi?
Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.
What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
29 October 2018, 19:53
LHeym500Is it illegal in California, New York, Bew Jersey, and Massachusetts?
29 October 2018, 20:12
Mike_DettorreWell, I know in California it is...don't know about the other "communist" states
But in general, I am not aware of pumps being illegal anywhere.
MikeLegistine actu quod scripsi?
Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
29 October 2018, 20:13
BuffHunter63Great idea!
How is the recoil? If you can get off multiple shots accurately, than it really is a formidable weapon.
BH63
Hunting buff is better than sex!
29 October 2018, 21:50
Aspen Hill AdventuresMeh, it's a Remington.
~Ann
29 October 2018, 21:51
Bud Meadows9.3 mm is only .366” so it would be illegal in most countries for DG.
Jesus saves, but Moses invests
29 October 2018, 22:05
Mike_DettorreBH63,
Rifle waighs about 8.5 lbs, I don't expect any issues.
The key to shooting a pump fast and accurately is to work the pump as part of the recoil cycle. For example, a well trained shooter with a pump shotgun can shooter faster and more accurately than an untrained shooter with a semi auto.
Ann - yes Remington's are horrible that is why the Remington 700 with no mdofications to the action and trigger have been the basis for USMC sniper rifle for 40+ years and the Remnington 870 is standard police shotgun for the last 50 years
Bud,
Just hunt where it's legal - problem solved.
MikeLegistine actu quod scripsi?
Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
29 October 2018, 22:25
MARK H. YOUNGMike,
I owned a couple of those. The factory rifle in 35 Whelen is a kind of a hammer but the 9.3 is just more. It should be 9.3x66 to get the most out of it though
The only thing I really disliked about those rifles was the forend rattle and the poor triggers. I think the triggers can be fixed. You definitely would be good to go for buffalo in Zim where it is legal. How does it shoot?
Mark
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https://www.facebook.com/pages...ures/627027353990716 29 October 2018, 23:04
BiebsThat's what an Amish hunter would take to Africa :-)
29 October 2018, 23:17
Todd WilliamsWell, it's not quite as ugly as a Blaser, so there's that at least.
29 October 2018, 23:18
JeffreyPhDquote:
Originally posted by Mike_Dettorre:
Well, I know in California it is...don't know about the other "communist" states
But in general, I am not aware of pumps being illegal anywhere.
I know you were probably kidding, but I don't think it would be illegal in CA. Pretty cool rifle!
MikeLegistine actu quod scripsi?
Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
30 October 2018, 00:07
MARK H. YOUNGGood for you!!!!!!!!!
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https://www.facebook.com/pages...ures/627027353990716 30 October 2018, 00:10
ldmay375I actual like the concept with standard magazines. Have thought of similar, ever since reading an article on a 760 re-barrel to 338-06 years ago.
If mechanical function is there, above .30 calibers in a pump seem like great hiking companion rifles for my area. I assume, the 9.3x62 would be close to maximum performance out of a pump. The pump seems as handy as a lever for carry, and for me likely much faster to operate.
30 October 2018, 01:04
Mike_DettorreAh Jeffrey,
I see I was not careful in the "syntax" of my reply...I meant to say in CA I know it is legal.
MikeLegistine actu quod scripsi?
Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
30 October 2018, 01:06
Mike_DettorreThis action could also handle a 375-06 AI/ 375 Scovil/ 375 Hawk.
I just went with a 9,3x62 cause I didn't want a wild cat.
MikeLegistine actu quod scripsi?
Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
30 October 2018, 01:53
ZephyrFriend has one, I've shot it, it's a very cool rifle
30 October 2018, 03:53
Scott LeonardWait....But it's Push Feed for God's sake...and you Can't bed it...besides that it's a noisy action..and it's got a clip..and...
Mines in 358 Win. (760)
Wildest I've see was 760 in .22-250, 28" with muzzle break.
Used in running deer shoots. (paper)
It's a money maker.
Scott
30 October 2018, 04:14
SniperI grew up with one of those in 270 Winchester. I killed a ton of deer with it and it would shoot 130 or 140 grain bullets exceptionally well.
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Michael RobinsonI like it. But then again, I have always wanted to convert a Browning semi-auto BAR in .338 Win. Mag. to .458 Win. Mag.
Mike
Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer.
30 October 2018, 05:58
Aspen Hill Adventuresquote:
That's what an Amish hunter would take to Africa :-)
~Ann
30 October 2018, 06:21
Beretta682E
Ruger blr converted to 375 ruger.
This one is cooler
Mike
30 October 2018, 06:38
Texas Blue Devilquote:
Originally posted by Mike_Dettorre:
For example, a well trained shooter with a pump shotgun can shooter faster and more accurately than an untrained shooter with a semi auto.
No doubt that is a fact. I grew up in south Louisiana, hunting doves, ducks and geese with a Remington 870 Wingmaster. I started with at 8 years old with 20 gauge, and switched to a 12 gauge at 13 years old. I shot that old 870 so fast that most people thought I had an automatic. When you shoot a pump a lot, you don't think about pumping the shotgun. It just happens during the recoil. For me it is all about repetition. About 20 years ago, I switched to shooting Benelli autos for ducks and geese, and O/U's or SxS's for birds and clays. A couple years ago while in Africa I borrowed a pump shotgun for an evening dove shoot. I didn't shoot that pump nearly as quickly or smoothly as I did 20 years ago.
Your rifle should be a hoot to shoot. Krieghoff made a few Semprio's in 416 Ruger. I know the Semprio pumps backwards, but I still wanted one of those.
Go Duke!!
30 October 2018, 06:56
Saeedquote:
Originally posted by Mike_Dettorre:
BH63,
Rifle waighs about 8.5 lbs, I don't expect any issues.
The key to shooting a pump fast and accurately is to work the pump as part of the recoil cycle. For example, a well trained shooter with a pump shotgun can shooter faster and more accurately than an untrained shooter with a semi auto.
Ann - yes Remington's are horrible that is why the Remington 700 with no mdofications to the action and trigger have been the basis for USMC sniper rifle for 40+ years and the Remnington 870 is standard police shotgun for the last 50 years
Bud,
Just hunt where it's legal - problem solved.
Comparing a trained shooter to an untrained one for comparison??
I never liked pump guns.
I think I will stick to my bolt gun, as long as I can shoot it accurately.
In a do or die dangerous game situation, one shot makes all the difference.
Make sure you put it in the right place.
Mind you, seeing how Mark Sullivan has made his fame, there are a lot of shooters who should never go hunting!
30 October 2018, 07:44
Mike_DettorreAh Saeed - How about an A- pump shooter can beat a C+ auto shooter
As I said - I had it built mostly to cause a stir.
MikeLegistine actu quod scripsi?
Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
30 October 2018, 08:30
Saeedquote:
Originally posted by Mike_Dettorre:
Ah Saeed - How about an A- pump shooter can beat a C+ auto shooter
As I said - I had it built mostly to cause a stir.
Mike,
It boils down to what you want, and never listen to anyone who says otherwise!
30 October 2018, 12:04
ijlThis could be a problem in some countries. Zimbabwe uses muzzle energy, so if the bullet diameter is at least 9.2mm and the muzzle energy 5.3kJ it would be legal, but some countries just slap on the ".375 H&H" because it's easier to enforce. (Not that Zimbabwean authorities can even spell "chronograph", let alone have one.)
quote:
Originally posted by Bud Meadows:
9.3 mm is only .366” so it would be illegal in most countries for DG.
30 October 2018, 13:20
fairgamequote:
Originally posted by Mike_Dettorre:
Ah Saeed - How about an A- pump shooter can beat a C+ auto shooter
As I said - I had it built mostly to cause a stir.
Mike,
Build one in .500 and I would be keen.
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30 October 2018, 16:07
Bwana Bundukiquote:
Originally posted by Todd Williams:
Well, it's not quite as ugly as a Blaser, so there's that at least.
+1
30 October 2018, 16:13
jorgequote:
Ann - yes Remington's are horrible that is why the Remington 700 with no mdofications to the action and trigger have been the basis for USMC sniper rifle for 40+ years and the Remnington 870 is standard police shotgun for the last 50 years Big Grin
A completely irrelevant fact to the discussion of DGR rifles. The very object of "sniping" takes place at long distances, which is of oourse the complete opposite of a DGR, not to mention the fact those "sniper rifles" are COMPLETELY overhauled, pinned bolt handle, new extractor, and of course a completely different trigger (BTW, I have no issue with PF actions, just POS 700s with glued on bolt handles (sorry, "brazed"), flimsy, sheet metal extractors prone to breakage, and of course the "wonderful" fail on fire safeties).
So yeah, let the nonsense (one word) begin...
PS: The 870 has long been replaced by the Mossberg 550/590 series and the Marines are now using Benellis.... I do like your idea though, how does it group?
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30 October 2018, 17:31
Mike_Dettorre
MikeLegistine actu quod scripsi?
Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
30 October 2018, 17:51
bwana cecilquote:
Not that Zimbabwean authorities can even spell "chronograph", let alone have one.
The female police officer in Zim that checked my rifle & was supposed to count my ammo could not count past 10.
LORD, let my bullets go where my crosshairs show.
Not all who wander are lost.
NEVER TRUST A FART!!!
Cecil Leonard
30 October 2018, 18:07
DocbillI built one in 375 Hawk and love it. I've killed a couple of elk cows with it and 235 gr. Barnes. I have handloaded 300 gr to 2400fps accurately.
Timney makes a trigger hammer and spring replacement that works for both the 760/7600 and 870 guns. I have put it in all of mine and it is fabalous. Changes the whole nature of the trigger.
30 October 2018, 18:34
Blacktailerquote:
Originally posted by Docbill:
I built one in 375 Hawk and love it. I've killed a couple of elk cows with it and 235 gr. Barnes. I have handloaded 300 gr to 3400fps accurately.
Timney makes a trigger hammer and spring replacement that works for both the 760/7600 and 870 guns. I have put it in all of mine and it is fabalous. Changes the whole nature of the trigger.
300gr @ 3400fps?? Now there is a DGR!
300gr @ 2400fps would work fine tho.
Have gun- Will travel
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30 October 2018, 19:04
DocbillThanks, I didn't catch my miss type. It is 2400 fps with a 300 gr.
30 October 2018, 20:53
Aspen Hill Adventuresquote:
Ann - yes Remington's are horrible that is why the Remington 700 with no mdofications to the action and trigger have been the basis for USMC sniper rifle for 40+ years and the Remnington 870 is standard police shotgun for the last 50 years
LOL, settle down, Sweetie. My 12 ga is a Rem 1100. I do prefer it over a pump action any day. JMHO!
~Ann
31 October 2018, 01:13
boom stickNow all you need is another one in 400 Whelen with 10 round mag. THEN you will have a pretty sweet DGR
31 October 2018, 04:02
RIP
That is cute!
Is there a pumpgun made for the H&H head size and 3.340" COL?
I would love to have one in .458 WIN.
Failing that, yes a .400 Whelen would do.
I could dig that, even if it is a Remington.
Rip ...
31 October 2018, 09:52
Saeedquote:
Originally posted by RIP:
That is cute!
Is there a pumpgun made for the H&H head size and 3.340" COL?
I would love to have one in .458 WIN.
Failing that, yes a .400 Whelen would do.
I could dig that, even if it is a Remington.
Rip ...
You can buy a suitable pump gun and have it converted.
I know someone who converted a Browning BAR to a 416 Weatherby.
31 October 2018, 16:46
Brandon.GleasonSweet looking little thumper!
