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Surprised to see this today

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03...ling-them.html?_r=1&

"As Tanzania’s highest-ranking wildlife official, I ask on behalf of my country and all of our wildlife: do not list the African lion as endangered. Instead, help us make the most from the revenues we generate. Help us make trophy hunting more sustainable and more valuable. In short, please work with us to conserve wildlife, rather than against us, which only diminishes our capacity to protect Tanzania’s global treasures."

~~Alexander N. Songorwa is director of wildlife for the Tanzanian Ministry of Natural Resources and Tourism.~~
 
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I thought it was an outstanding, well written article.
 
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He led the reader to believe trophy hunters only pay $9800 to hunt lions. He could have done a better job enunciating the fact that photo safarists have no desire to travel to remote camps - he mentioned it, but could have expanded the point a bit more.

He could have also pointed out the economic benefit lion hunting has on local people, esp the Masai, who otherwise may just poison them.

But all in all, a good article.


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He led the reader to believe trophy hunters only pay $9800 to hunt lions. He could have done a better job enunciating the fact that photo safarists have no desire to travel to remote camps - he mentioned it, but could have expanded the point a bit more.

He could have also pointed out the economic benefit lion hunting has on local people, esp the Masai, who otherwise may just poison them.

But all in all, a good article.


AAW - you are exactly correct. Elaboration and more to the point / factual info would have been good. But, overall - good!


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Hey, we got a favorable and important op-ed piece in the NY Times by an important individual in African wildfie. Nothing at all wrong with that, even though it could have made those points better.

Outstanding that the NY Times even saw fit to publish an article that probably goes against their liberal agenda.
 
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Just recently Kenya withdrew its objection against the legal trade of rhino horn in Bankok.

Now Tanzania is doing this, great.

Can it be that Africans are starting to see the light with regards to sustainable hunting?


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He could have also pointed out the economic benefit lion hunting has on local people, esp the Masai, who otherwise may just poison them.


You can pay the Maasai $1million a day but they still won't stop killing lion Wink They honestly do not care about (any) wildlife irrespective of the benefits they may receive from its use. If it is there, amongst their herds of livestock then they may 'tolerate" them so long as there is enough grass and water for both wildlife and their livestock. The moment wildlife starts competing, then its a one way decision that no amount of money can buy!


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Can it be that Africans are starting to see the light with regards to sustainable hunting?


Pieter, I just read through the proposed changes in the National Biodiversity act in S.A.

There is a LOT of changes proposed, and it looks good for hunting. One thing that I am surprised with is the industry self-regulation that we have been fighting to get for such a long time.

They (DEA) invited the industry to 3 meetings in Limpopo to give input in the proposed chances to the Act.

I think it is slowly starting to move in the right direction.


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Posts: 2018 | Location: South Africa,Tanzania & Uganda | Registered: 15 August 2006Reply With Quote
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Rather miraculous that the NY Times printed anything sensible about hunting. The $9800 figure stated was only for gov't fees, but it is easy to see that readers might think that figure was the total cost. It would be nice to think that the endless stream of spin coming from the Left has finally started people on the pathway to finding out the facts for themselves.
 
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Just recently Kenya withdrew its objection against the legal trade of rhino horn in Bankok.


Pieter,

The Kenyans withdrew their proposal for a moratorium on white rhino tourist hunting. There was no discussion on the trade in rhino horn although the South African delegation did mention that they would be looking at alternative ways of utilizing the white rhino.
 
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