MacD37: Well said.

I read the original posters first post several times,I didn't see where he was kissing anyone's ass. Nothing wrong with a quick thanks to Saeed for this site and thats what he did. Some of you guys need to get out a little more.
MacD37, good post!

quote:

Pardon me, but I did not impersonate a Brigadier General. Nor did I take the action by the SECNAV in disciplining the person who did. Nor did I make misleading (false?) statements about those events on AR.

Perhaps you should be asking why a person entrusted with our national security would do those things instead of asking why an ordinary citizen would challenge the actions.

Yes, when you shine the light (with a Surefire of course ) of truth it hurts!

I would rather sit dogged tired next to a fire and discuss buffalo hunting with Saeed or Boddington than continue to read this shit!
Saeed thanks for the site and the chance to learn from gentlemen such as yourself and Craig.

At SCI Reno this year, I witnessed two young boys who wanted their picture taken with Craig Boddington. He took ahold of the kids and was a very gracious person. The kids walked away with a huge smile on their faces. What a truely good hearted gesture on the part of Craig Boddington.

MacD37: good job!!!!

What should I add given what MacD37 has said? I agree with him.

Certainly there are items of controversy -- its part of the fun. Saeed has strong views on politics (if you want to venture to that side of the site), which he perhaps provides a view into a part of world culture that most of us would never dream of a chance to see, even if the message may be bitter to read.

Yet, I deeply appreciate the simple hospitality that is offered here. More, I appreciate the simple, innocent joy expressed in this thread: if it weren't for this site, I might not have those heads on my wall -- each reminding me of a wonderful time in Africa, which I look forward to exploring more in the future.

Dan

The problem with the internet is that it is easy to set up a "shop front", tell lots of bull shit with a small amount of actual experiences, build a reputation. But eventually the pile of BS becomes unstable and collapse and it is hard or impossible to recover from. It is far better to stick to actual experience and be a straight shooter. And if you say, you are a man of your word, ad nauseum, one day you may just have to prove it.

Also the hidden commercial motives often get in the way, which is a pity.

I think AR is a better site for having people now with REAL experience.

In the end for a free forum, it is the knowledgeable and varied membership that makes a website such as this. And thanks to the host for providing the platform.


The December to February period always seems to be a fracticious time on the net. This years safaris haven't started. Last years are done with, and the stories usually told. People get grumpy.


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Back to the second part of Safari-Hunt's topic.

I think dangerous game hunting is an important topic of interest here. And a fun one. Probably none of us get as much DG hunting as we would really like to do today. But plains game probably accounts for more than half the discussions still.

Dan did your kindergarten report card read " He does not play well with others"?
I've noticed not too many "friends" of yours running to your side in this debate....loyal aren't they?

It's like some people have about as much common sense as a CAT on a hot tin roof...jorge

500Grains, you remind me of someone.......I just cannot place it. I looked at your elephant hunt story. I assume thats you in the pictures.

Yes you remind me of another hunter........an elephant hunter.........hmm.......maybe..........ole' P Taylor himself....yes thats it, Pondoro Taylor. Are you Scottish also ?

quote:

Originally posted by jorge:
It's like some people have about as much common sense as a CAT on a hot tin roof...jorge

Jorge

Are you hinting ALP#4 is the troll "Cats" under a new name?

I thought he might be an "official" troll?

quote:

Originally posted by ALP#4:
Dan did your kindergarten report card read " He does not play well with others"?
I've noticed not too many "friends" of yours running to your side in this debate....loyal aren't they?

I don't think Dan needs help from his friends here, but there are a number of us who value his contributions both on the board and off-line.

quote:

Originally posted by ALP#4:
Dan did your kindergarten report card read " He does not play well with others"?
I've noticed not too many "friends" of yours running to your side in this debate....loyal aren't they?

Didn't realize anyone was 'picking sides' here. But, for the record, Dan generally knows full well the grounds he is standing on. Much unlike yourself.

My apologies to all of the "fawners" who have been offended by my post. You, too, ALPO.

Give Safari-Hunts another month or so and he'll post another.

DB

quote:

Originally posted by WPN:
500grains is the guy who ran Craig Boddington off this site a couple years ago.

Boddington came here initially to sell one of his left-handed rifles. Once it was sold, he didn't show his face much. That's the way I remember it.

quote:

Originally posted by Safari-Hunt:
AR being the best african hunting forum on the net and a big thanks to one man "Saeed" to have given us the opportunity to meet and discuss what most of us love the most. It feels to me that AR as shifted over the last couple of years from a all round africa hunting forum from plaisngame to big five to a more progresivve big game forum with more and more big five related topics.

This means that obviously is has moved on to its real Name "Africa Big Game Hunting" it has sparked many hunters to start to save for big game and as made it possible for a lot to go and live out a dream.

My only complaint about this is that I cannot participate in much of the discussions as I do not have enough relevant big five experience. With the exception of a rhino dart hunt and some leopard hunting experience all in RSA. Anyway I have learned a lot and am very lucky to be a part of AR.

Thanks again Saaed

Your, feelings on this that AR has moved to be more of a big game forum ?

REMEMBER THIS POST? I fail to see, in this post, what brought on all this HATE!

.............BYE

quote:

Originally posted by ALP#4:

Blah blah blah.

CATS (or whichever you may be),

You are making a complete fool out of yourself...

quote:

Originally posted by MacD37:

quote:

Originally posted by Safari-Hunt:
AR being the best african hunting forum on the net and a big thanks to one man "Saeed" to have given us the opportunity to meet and discuss what most of us love the most. It feels to me that AR as shifted over the last couple of years from a all round africa hunting forum from plaisngame to big five to a more progresivve big game forum with more and more big five related topics.

This means that obviously is has moved on to its real Name "Africa Big Game Hunting" it has sparked many hunters to start to save for big game and as made it possible for a lot to go and live out a dream.

My only complaint about this is that I cannot participate in much of the discussions as I do not have enough relevant big five experience. With the exception of a rhino dart hunt and some leopard hunting experience all in RSA. Anyway I have learned a lot and am very lucky to be a part of AR.

Thanks again Saaed

Your, feelings on this that AR has moved to be more of a big game forum ?

REMEMBER THIS POST? I fail to see, in this post, what brought on all this HATE!

.............BYE

MacD37, it appears to me that some people consider this type of post as "ass kissing", personally I don't see it but to each his own. Some of you guys need to go hunting or go get laid.

quote:

Originally posted by ErikD:

quote:

Originally posted by ALP#4:

Blah blah blah.

CATS (or whichever you may be),

You are making a complete fool out of yourself...

I am afraid an awful lot of members are making fools of themselves lately.

Both members and managment it seems. But then condoning (or perhaps even instigating) troll behaviour is nothing new here I suppose...

I can not envisage, I mean It completely baffles me, how someone, anyone, could side with this obvious troll over 500 grains!

Look who's kissing ass now.

MAC said it well.

It seems that Some posters can turn the most innocuous threads into a pissing match.

There is a difference between fawning and expressing thanks to someone for giving you, at his expense, the oportunity to discuss a subject about which you are passionate. I appreciate the fact that Saeed has underwritten this site and thus has given so many of us a chance to share our love of hunting in Africa. In return, all he has asked is that we treat the others here with common curtesy. That's a rather small price to pay for access to this site. If you think that saying thanks to someone who has spent his money for your enjoyment is brown nosing, than I suggest that you need a class in manners.

Thanks Saeed, I don't always agree with you, or anyone else here, but I value the time that I spend in AR's company.

TerryR

I am new to this site. May 9th I am on my way to the RSA for my first PG hunt and I am very excited about this hunt. I do not know anyone that has been before, so I look to the internet for any and all information that will answer all the questions I have. I am not asking the same old questions but search out the same questions that have been asked sooo many times. To pass the time and hope that magic day in May will come sooner, I read all the stories on all the diferent hunting sites, and have made this site my favorite, with the vast experience of all of you, sharing your hunting stories and all the usefull information, It is almost like I am sitting around a campfire soaking up this info with some good friends and not at my office. Now after reading all this s&%t I am no longer sitting at that campfire, but I am back at my office withall the BS that I am trying to get away from.

To all the a$$ holes, thanks for f$#@ing this up for me.

Sincerely,

Chris

Safari-Hunt,

I still see a lot of plains game and firearms-related threads from day to day, but you may be right about an intensified focus on DG of late.

DG is just naturally more interesting to most people, I think. And this site is visited by many with a great deal of DG hunting experience. Those who don't have much can at least learn about it and prepare for the day when they, too, are able to hunt DG.

That's the great thing about this site. There is just so much valuable information, on so many hunting and shooting related topics, to be found here. And people generally share it willingly, in a spirit of trying to be helpful.

As Craig Boddington did on my recent thread asking for advice about the wisdom of splitting a 21 day safari between the Selous and Masailand.

And BTW, I share your gratitude to our host and am in no way ashamed to say so. In my view, it's laudable to say thanks from time to time. To do otherwise would be churlish. No one who visits here should ever take this wonderful resource for granted.

Just think for a minute about how we would feel if this site disappeared from the internet.

If you're like me, you would miss it a lot - notwithstanding the nonsense posted here from time to time by the resident trolls, jerks, hucksters, wannabes, BS artists, self-promoters, etc.

Amen mrlexma. This site has broadened my love of safari in ways I could not have imagined. I am most grateful for it. Whether lots or little of experience there is plenty to enjoy and learn here.

quote:

Originally posted by mrlexma:
Safari-Hunt,And BTW, I share your gratitude to our host and am in no way ashamed to say so. In my view, it's laudable to say thanks from time to time. To do otherwise would be churlish. No one who visits here should ever take this wonderful resource for granted.

Something else that is not widely known, is that African Hunter Magazine would not be the excellent publication it is without the help of Saeed (at least from what I was told). Certainly Don Heath/Ganyana put together a great rag, but I seem to remember in past years sometimes waiting months between issues and sometimes wondering if I had let my subscrription lapse....

But to get BACK ON SUBJECT, in spite of the fact i booked a DG hunt, I shot more plains game than I did buffalo, in large part through the interest and appreciation I gained reading posts and looking at the pictures here on AR.

Back to the original topic -
I learn a great deal here. I verify what is said if I am about to spend money. I check references. I have nothing but thanks to Saeed and the moderators for putting up with come of the comments posted. I hate to see anyone leave the board, but sometimes you need to move on. I do not understand attacking people's integrity just for spite, but I do understand that if someone portrays himself as something that is proven he is not - he is asking for trouble anywhere on a forum.

Anyway, I like this forum and intend to stay until shoot a lion or elephant or leopard or Lord Derby or......

quote:

Originally posted by Buckshotaz:
I am new to this site. May 9th I am on my way to the RSA for my first PG hunt and I am very excited about this hunt. I do not know anyone that has been before, so I look to the internet for any and all information that will answer all the questions I have. I am not asking the same old questions but search out the same questions that have been asked sooo many times. To pass the time and hope that magic day in May will come sooner, I read all the stories on all the diferent hunting sites, and have made this site my favorite, with the vast experience of all of you, sharing your hunting stories and all the usefull information, It is almost like I am sitting around a campfire soaking up this info with some good friends and not at my office. Now after reading all this s&%t I am no longer sitting at that campfire, but I am back at my office withall the BS that I am trying to get away from.

To all the a$$ holes, thanks for f$#@ing this up for me.

Sincerely,

Chris

rats!! I mean CATS....

quote:

Originally posted by mrlexma:
And BTW, I share your gratitude to our host and am in no way ashamed to say so. In my view, it's laudable to say thanks from time to time. To do otherwise would be churlish. No one who visits here should ever take this wonderful resource for granted.

Agreed, my sentiments are apportionable to this view....

Back on point;

The talk here gravitates to dangerous game simply because it is dangerous. It is sexy. We dream and talk about going face to face with a buff or elephant not making a 200 yd shot on an impala. Put a bunch of guys around a campfire, real or electronic, and pretty soon someone says "No shit, there I was....".
It's fun to talk about the scary stuff, Boddington wrote a nice book about his pursuit of spiral horned game, I bet it sold well, but not as well as "Death in the Long Grass".

TerryR

My new years resolution is love everyone. I have had business dealings with both.

Dan: The deal went though with no problems.

Frederick: He could not deliver what he sold. Frederick has apologized and I have written off what I can not collect.

Dan is a lawyer.

Frederick is a salesman.

Draw your own conclusions

Urdubob.

Bob

So you STILL haven't been compensated!

NOPE! HEY,BUT....HE SAID HE WAS SORRY.

I hope with all these videos he does for the big Sweede he will make it right some day.

mrlexma,

quote:

Just think for a minute about how we would feel if this site disappeared from the internet.

Internet would definetely not be the same for me. I have met some really good people here and I have learned a hard lesson/lessons as well with some of my failures. When I start up internet the first page that pops up is AR I rarely frequent other topics except African Big Game.

Urdubob,

Thank you, just keep holding thumbs I'm working hard on your compensation. I'm sending a PM

quote:

Originally posted by Safari-Hunt:
mrlexma,

quote:

Just think for a minute about how we would feel if this site disappeared from the internet.

Internet would definetely not be the same for me. I have met some really good people here and I have learned a hard lesson/lessons as well with some of my failures. When I start up internet the first page that pops up is AR I rarely frequent other topics except African Big Game.

Urdubob,

Thank you, just keep holding thumbs I'm working hard on your compensation. I'm sending a PM

Now,,,,there's a comforting note. Good luck, Bob.

DB

quote:

Originally posted by Dungbeetle:

quote:

Originally posted by Safari-Hunt:
mrlexma,

quote:

Just think for a minute about how we would feel if this site disappeared from the internet.

Internet would definetely not be the same for me. I have met some really good people here and I have learned a hard lesson/lessons as well with some of my failures. When I start up internet the first page that pops up is AR I rarely frequent other topics except African Big Game.

Urdubob,

Thank you, just keep holding thumbs I'm working hard on your compensation. I'm sending a PM

Now,,,,there's a comforting note. Good luck, Bob.

DB

Now that's the truth!

Note how talk about repaying UrduBob doesn't happen until this guy "Safari-Hunt" is publicly questioned about how long (how many years has i been?) it will take to refund UrduBob for payments hunts Safari-Hunt was not able to deliver.

This thread and the reactions to the comments might just be as much about the character of the poster ie an agent that took money for hunts, never delivered on the hunt and never re-paid the deposit for the hunt not delivered.

Yet he seeming has earnings and can spend money on other things.

Nitro all that may well be true Safari doesn't seem to deny it. But how does that effect you? Isn't that a matter to be kept between the two of them? What purpose does it serve to air this on a public forum?

ALP#4

Your registration date shows 3 Nov 2006. Maybe you are new here, maybe not. Maybe you know the full story and history.

I guess the same could be asked of you. As you are neither UrduBob nor Safari-Hunt.

If UrduBob has a problem with my post, I am sure he will mention it, or drop me a line.

As for "Safari-Hunt" (Frederik Cocquyt) he can also make public comments if he wants as well.

I really have no business sticking my nose into this mess, but the fact that Safari-Hunt is still here, has apologized for his mistakes, and continues to promise to make good on them somehow is respectable behavior in my eyes. Plenty of bad deals have gone down, some deliberately, some not, and some simply the result of inexperience and innocent mistakes. God knows I made my share back when I first started up my business.

I've been around long enough to have seen plenty of history here, and i think you're being a little hard on the young man. Just my opinion ol buddy...