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May I make a suggestion for hunters and PHs going forward

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26 January 2018, 18:56
MARK H. YOUNG
May I make a suggestion for hunters and PHs going forward
Folks,

I certainly don't believe I'm the only one that thinks these trophy pix with the client's face blanked out looks like crap. How about next time you're in the field, kill something and the hunter is not wanting his face shown publicly with the trophy take a 2nd picture just with the animal or with the PH only being in the shot. I think if we can make that routine not only will the pictures look better but it won't feed the antis point of view that we are ashamed of what we do.

Just a suggestion!

Mark


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26 January 2018, 18:59
Saeed
You are absolutely right Mark.

It looks silly, and gives the idea of the hunter being ashamed of himself!

Lots of them on Instagram too!


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26 January 2018, 19:20
Charlie64
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Well said Mark ! Fully agree !

Either in or out.

As you said, feeding the antis with our own posts and shopped images.

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"Up the ladders and down the snakes!"
26 January 2018, 19:22
Crazyhorseconsulting
Plus One to all the above.


Even the rocks don't last forever.



26 January 2018, 19:28
Opus1
Social media has been the bane of protecting our hunting rights.

Cecil would have been just another collared lion shot without the stupid pictures.


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26 January 2018, 19:41
Marty
Agreed. I will not hide my face, being proud to be a hunter. That is easy to say, as being mostly retired and owning no businesses there are no commercial consequences to showing my face.
The blurred face photos remind me of naughty pictures from a bygone era, with black bars over the eyes.
26 January 2018, 19:49
BaxterB
Or just refrain entirely. Hunting and especially killing is such an esoteric activity that it loses almost all context with these social media shares. And the very self-aware pics of hunters essentially “laying hands” on an animal they have killed is ridiculous. They are simulacra. Feel free to flame...
26 January 2018, 20:09
Saeed
We should not refrain just to satisfy their sick minds!

I say show what you wish to show with pride, and tell hell with them!

Just read that they think that classic movie, JAMES BOND DR. NO., is considered sexist and James Bond as a rapist!!

They ramming all their sick ideas on us, and we should not be scared of standing up to them!


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26 January 2018, 20:31
Steve Ahrenberg
quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
We should not refrain just to satisfy their sick minds!

I say show what you wish to show with pride, and tell hell with them!

Just read that they think that classic movie, JAMES BOND DR. NO., is considered sexist and James Bond as a rapist!!

They ramming all their sick ideas on us, and we should not be scared of standing up to them!


Well, my comment would be what is gained by offering up the very information the anti hunting movement uses to stop our sport?

What is the net gain?

I would compare it to street racers posting pictures on line of their racing and where they do it, simply to antagonize the cops.

Do you want to lose hunting in Africa? That is a very real possibility. Again posting hunting pictures with NO UPSIDE POTENTIAL, only down.

It's obvious the PH's post them as a sales tool, which I understand.


Formerly "Nganga"
26 January 2018, 20:34
BaxterB
quote:
Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:
quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
We should not refrain just to satisfy their sick minds!

I say show what you wish to show with pride, and tell hell with them!

Just read that they think that classic movie, JAMES BOND DR. NO., is considered sexist and James Bond as a rapist!!

They ramming all their sick ideas on us, and we should not be scared of standing up to them!


Well, my comment would be what is gained by offering up the very information the anti hunting movement uses to stop our sport?

What is the net gain?

I would compare it to street racers posting pictures on line of their racing and where they do it, simply to antagonize the cops.

Do you want to lose hunting in Africa? That is a very real possibility. Again posting hunting pictures with NO UPSIDE POTENTIAL, only down.

It's obvious the PH's post them as a sales tool, which I understand.



Dammit man, I was literally typing the same thing.



What has posting all these pictures gained for us?
26 January 2018, 20:42
Steve Ahrenberg
quote:
Originally posted by BaxterB:
quote:
Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:
quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
We should not refrain just to satisfy their sick minds!

I say show what you wish to show with pride, and tell hell with them!

Just read that they think that classic movie, JAMES BOND DR. NO., is considered sexist and James Bond as a rapist!!

They ramming all their sick ideas on us, and we should not be scared of standing up to them!


Well, my comment would be what is gained by offering up the very information the anti hunting movement uses to stop our sport?

What is the net gain?

I would compare it to street racers posting pictures on line of their racing and where they do it, simply to antagonize the cops.

Do you want to lose hunting in Africa? That is a very real possibility. Again posting hunting pictures with NO UPSIDE POTENTIAL, only down.

It's obvious the PH's post them as a sales tool, which I understand.



Dammit man, I was literally typing the same thing.



What has posting all these pictures gained for us?


Cool


Formerly "Nganga"
26 January 2018, 20:51
ledvm
quote:
Originally posted by MARK H. YOUNG:
Folks,

I certainly don't believe I'm the only one that thinks these trophy pix with the client's face blanked out looks like crap. How about next time you're in the field, kill something and the hunter is not wanting his face shown publicly with the trophy take a 2nd picture just with the animal or with the PH only being in the shot. I think if we can make that routine not only will the pictures look better but it won't feed the antis point of view that we are ashamed of what we do.

Just a suggestion!

Mark


+1 more


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26 January 2018, 20:51
MacD37
quote:
Originally posted by MARK H. YOUNG:
Folks,

I certainly don't believe I'm the only one that thinks these trophy pix with the client's face blanked out looks like crap. How about next time you're in the field, kill something and the hunter is not wanting his face shown publicly with the trophy take a 2nd picture just with the animal or with the PH only being in the shot. I think if we can make that routine not only will the pictures look better but it won't feed the antis point of view that we are ashamed of what we do.

Just a suggestion!

Mark


IMO, the last sentence (in bold) is a perfect read of this trend of posted pictures, with the hunters face blurred, is certainly the way all anti hunting idiots read it as a cowards way of hiding his SIN!
If you don't want you face shown take the picture with only your rifle for posting, and one for yourself with you in it for your den or office.

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26 January 2018, 20:52
Saeed
Do you think by hiding you are going to stop them being against hunting?

I enjoy hunting.

I will continue to hunt, I will post any photos I bloody well wish to post.

And to hell with them.

Bloody hell!

What has happened to some of you lot?

You bend backwards because they screamed “canned” hunts.

Now Yiu rod sticking your heads in the sand because they object to you posting photos of what you enjoy doing??


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26 January 2018, 20:55
Steve Ahrenberg
quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
Do you think by hiding you are going to stop them being against hunting?

I enjoy hunting.

I will continue to hunt, I will post any photos I bloody well wish to post.

And to hell with them.

Bloody hell!

What has happened to some of you lot?

You bend backwards because they screamed “canned” hunts.

Now Yiu rod sticking your heads in the sand because they object to you posting photos of what you enjoy doing??


I enjoy hunting more than posting hero shots.

Risk/rewards...


Formerly "Nganga"
26 January 2018, 20:57
Charlie64
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What has it gained for us?

For me it has

1/ shown me animals in a hunting context that I have not seen before

2/ it has shown me the differences in buffalo - bodies, horns, bosses and other animals

3/ it has shown me countryside landscapes and habitat

4/ it has shown me wheelchair hunters and a hunter with only one leg

5/ it has shown me trackers and PHs around the globe that I had not seen before

5/ it has shown me some excellent quality photograph of a sport / hobby / interest that I follow with passion

6/ it has - except for the subject of this thread being shopped faces - shown me people that are happy and even proud of what they are doing and that are happy to share their pictures with like minded people

should I go on?

.

.


"Up the ladders and down the snakes!"
26 January 2018, 21:00
BaxterB
quote:
Originally posted by Charlie64:
What has it gained for us?

For me it has

1/ shown me animals in a hunting context that I have not seen before

2/ it has shown me the differences in buffalo - bodies, horns, bosses and other animals

3/ it has shown me countryside landscapes and habitat

4/ it has shown me wheelchair hunters and a hunter with only one leg

5/ it has shown me trackers and PHs around the globe that I had not seen before

5/ it has shown me some excellent quality photograph of a sport / hobby / interest that I follow with passion

should I go on?

.



Your first sentence says it all, “me.” “Us” refers to the struggling hunting community at large.
26 January 2018, 21:02
Charlie64
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I cannot speak for others. But I am sure the majority here will share my sentiment.

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"Up the ladders and down the snakes!"
26 January 2018, 21:07
MARK H. YOUNG
Guys,

The point of wiping out the faces is to avoid possible harassment by the antis and some employers do not want their business to be associated with hunting. I have a client that works for a sensitive government agency. They've made it very clear that they do not want my client's pictures posted anywhere with dead animals.

Mark


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26 January 2018, 21:09
Charlie64
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As the opening post suggested - a second picture of just the animal !

Smiler


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26 January 2018, 21:11
AnotherAZWriter
quote:
Originally posted by Opus1:
Social media has been the bane of protecting our hunting rights.

Cecil would have been just another collared lion shot without the stupid pictures.


My brother in law is a fairly famous internet marketing expert; went from rags to riches. He told me that there were exactly ZERO searches for Cecil the lion before he was shot. And my bro in law is not a hunter; he has no dog in the fight.


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26 January 2018, 21:18
Steve Ahrenberg
quote:
Originally posted by AnotherAZWriter:
quote:
Originally posted by Opus1:
Social media has been the bane of protecting our hunting rights.

Cecil would have been just another collared lion shot without the stupid pictures.


My brother in law is a fairly famous internet marketing expert; went from rags to riches. He told me that there were exactly ZERO searches for Cecil the lion before he was shot. And my bro in law is not a hunter; he has no dog in the fight.


I was watching the only English TV channel last evening in Brazil, CNN. They had on some past FB executive. His comment was, "Social Media is detrimental to society."


Formerly "Nganga"
26 January 2018, 22:32
vvreddy
Agreed. Blurring faces gives a clear message that you are can't or wont back up the activity that you are engaged in.
26 January 2018, 23:00
Use Enough Gun
If you're not fully proud to post it, and to defend it, don't post it at all.
27 January 2018, 00:12
10generation
I like shots of game and a nice rifle.
27 January 2018, 00:34
BuffHunter63
Some people don't want their face on the internet, regardless of the situation.

It has never bothered me, but I am not exactly sensitive to what others think about me. LOL

Instead of blurring the features or blacking out part of the face, why not decapitate the hunters?

BH63


Hunting buff is better than sex!
27 January 2018, 02:36
Texas Blue Devil
quote:
Originally posted by MARK H. YOUNG:
Folks,

I certainly don't believe I'm the only one that thinks these trophy pix with the client's face blanked out looks like crap. How about next time you're in the field, kill something and the hunter is not wanting his face shown publicly with the trophy take a 2nd picture just with the animal or with the PH only being in the shot. I think if we can make that routine not only will the pictures look better but it won't feed the antis point of view that we are ashamed of what we do.

Just a suggestion!

Mark


+1


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27 January 2018, 02:39
Ridgetop
I will post what I want and those who don't like it can kiss my "donkey".

Me with my Cape Buffalo on my Facebook page. Some people unfriended me like I care.
27 January 2018, 02:53
cable68
I get it; I personally have no issue with my own face being posted, but I can see where some people may not wish their own face be put in a photo put up by a PH or safari company.


Caleb
27 January 2018, 03:12
AB109
Yes, a second photo with PH in it is the answer.
I have been doing this for years.
Unfortunately due to my profession showing my face could be a problem. (I would love to)
This is what the world has come to....... all trail by social media
27 January 2018, 03:58
Crazyhorseconsulting
And once again we see why we are going to see hunting go the way of the Dodo!

Instead of finding a way to show that we are proud of the animals that we have killed on a hunt in a manner that does not offend people, we should just rub it in peoples faces, to prove WHAT?????????


Even the rocks don't last forever.



27 January 2018, 04:07
Gundog 64
quote:
Originally posted by MARK H. YOUNG:
Folks,

I certainly don't believe I'm the only one that thinks these trophy pix with the client's face blanked out looks like crap. How about next time you're in the field, kill something and the hunter is not wanting his face shown publicly with the trophy take a 2nd picture just with the animal or with the PH only being in the shot. I think if we can make that routine not only will the pictures look better but it won't feed the antis point of view that we are ashamed of what we do.

Just a suggestion!

Mark

Mark,
Dawn and I purposely put the hunt pictures on our Facebook pages just to see if anybody got their panties in a twist. I say screw all the internet keyboard commandos. Come and stand on my porch and tell me how you feel about my chosen pursuit, if it really bothers you that much.
27 January 2018, 04:12
Crazyhorseconsulting
quote:
Dawn and I purposely put the hunt pictures on our Facebook pages just to see if anybody got their panties in a twist. I say screw all the internet keyboard commandos. Come and stand on my porch and tell me how you feel about my chosen pursuit, if it really bothers you that much.


And what will be your attitude when hunting gets shutdown??????

Personnally, I do not want to lose the ability to hunt because of your arrogance!


Even the rocks don't last forever.



27 January 2018, 04:37
buckeyeshooter
What has happened to personal choice? As far as I am concerned, it is up to the individual, what and how they want to post a photo. You people who say they should do it this or that way ARE JUST AS BAD as the anti's who say you should hunt at all. Last I heard, we still have personal freedom here, if you don't like someone's photo, don't look at it.
27 January 2018, 05:21
Saeed
quote:
Originally posted by Use Enough Gun:
If you're not fully proud to post it, and to defend it, don't post it at all.


I think some here would like us to just disappear.

Juts like the bloody antis want anyway!


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27 January 2018, 05:25
Crazyhorseconsulting
Agreed, it is up to the individual, just like it is up to the individual as to whether they want to alienate people that may not really have anything againt hunting/hunters or really do not care and honestly believe that public opinion is not going to determine the future of hunting.

No skin off my ass either way, my hunting days are getting fewer as time goes along and I have no kids or grandkids, so why should I care whether anyone gets to hunt in the future?


Even the rocks don't last forever.



27 January 2018, 05:36
Crazyhorseconsulting
quote:
I think some here would like us to just disappear.


That is the dumbest statement I have seen you make in the entire time I have been on this site.

Are you serious?

Posting hunting pictures on this or ANYOTHER dedicated hunting site is one thing. Look at how many on here complained about the "Croc Hunter" on the "Trophy" documentary.

In case you have not noticed Saeed, hunters are fast becoming a minority in today's world.

Why are you and others offened because some of us are merely saying that there are pictures that can/should be posted, even on Face Book, anmd some that shouldn't.


Even the rocks don't last forever.



27 January 2018, 05:52
georgeld
Mark:

So fk 'em get another job!!

George


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27 January 2018, 06:00
Crazyhorseconsulting
How masny on here like seeing hunting shows with the "Hunters" doing end zone celebrations?


Even the rocks don't last forever.



27 January 2018, 06:27
SFRanger7GP
We take photos; we take a lot of them. We take photos that respect the animal and they are all over our home and a limited amount have been shared on pro-hunting websites. Some have been used by PH's, outfitters and a companies in the hunting/firearms industry. We do not post anything on the "come one come all" social media. We are not afraid or ashamed; we just don't share personal moments with the unwashed masses. We gladly share them with similar minded people.

We will not back down from the fanatical, liberal a$$ clowns, but we not feed them ammunition for their cause either. You can be a "quiet professional" and still stand firm in supporting your cause.

Safe travels................L