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Any reports on these yet? They look to be pretty impressive but the proof is in the performance on game. Thanks | ||
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i have been hunting with them this season ... some excellent results on two buffalo taken with the dgx.. great expansion and weight retention ... with the dgs , several elephant bulls taken with .450 calibre ...excellent penetration and bullets taken out completely intact in the instances that they were found ... "The greatest threat to our wildlife is the thought that someone else will save it” www.facebook.com/ivancartersafrica www.ivancarterwca.org www.ivancarter.com ivan@ivancarter.com | |||
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I will let you know in September. | |||
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That's very interesting, because they cost half of what A Frames, Woodleighs cost, and less than half of TBBC's. Maybe Hornady's finally come up with a winner. | |||
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The new DG solids don't feed as well as any model of older solid from Hornady or anyone else. Their flat meplat is oval in configuration as compared to the circular design of competive models. In my court, the jury is still out. | |||
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interesting point walter i have only used them from a double gun , looking at one of them in hand now i can see how that could be an issue in some guns ... i was talking more from the point of terminal performance of the trajectory itself. "The greatest threat to our wildlife is the thought that someone else will save it” www.facebook.com/ivancartersafrica www.ivancarterwca.org www.ivancarter.com ivan@ivancarter.com | |||
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I have been reloading them for my 450 NE and they shoot as well as the woodleighs I also reload for my rifle. Both bullets shoot to point of aim being very accurate. Will let you know after my elephant hunt in Namibia next August that is 2009. | |||
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hi I ordered a couple of boxes hornady DGX bullets yes Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. | |||
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Walter! You say that they don't feed as well as the older RN solids. Is this based on your actually trying them? If so what kinds of guns did you try them in? It would be preferable from a wound standpoint for it to be a full FN bullet (at least 75% of the diameter in the FN). I don't think any ammo maker will offer the full FN design in factory ammo. The number of complaints of poor feeding would inundate them. In addition some people would get squashed because they didn't try them before the hunt to insure that they will feed. 465H&H | |||
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Only the 458's have much of a flat end. The 416 and 375 bullets have such a small flat point that that flat will be inconsequential as far as feeding. ------------------------------- Will Stewart / Once you've been amongst them, there is no such thing as too much gun. --------------------------------------- and, God Bless John Wayne. NRA Benefactor Member, GOA, N.A.G.R. _________________________ "Elephant and Elephant Guns" $99 shipped “Hunting Africa's Dangerous Game" $20 shipped. red.dirt.elephant@gmail.com _________________________ Hoping to wind up where elephant hunters go. | |||
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Ivan, I know many of us here would love to see pictures of some of your expanded DGX's. From the Midway website, Hornady says of their bullet: "The Hornady Dangerous Game Expanding bullets feature a copper jacket and flat nose with a high antimony lead core." This would have been a pretty good bullet in 1950 but is nothing special in todays day and age. The steel jacket and antimony core will both reduce or inhibit expansion. I have mentioned before that Weatherby 460 ammo was loaded with a copper clad steel jacketed 500 grain Hornady soft point in the early 1980's when I used it to shoot american bison. They barely expanded. Andy | |||
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Does anyone have any more info or field test reports on these Bullets? | |||
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I have a recent box of Hornady 458 FN solids. The FN meplat is round on the 458s. Has an advertised velocity of 2,240 fps. I got 2,055 out of a 24" barreled Browning Safari Grade yesterday. The temp was 74 deg F. 465H&H | |||
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The folks at Hornady tell me the 570 grain .510s should be out in about a month. Good hunting, Andy ----------------------------- Thomas Jefferson: “To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.” | |||
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Be sure and make your box of ammo says DGX on it. If it says Hornady Custom, you are just getting the old ammo. Happened to me on an order from Grafs on some Lott ammo. The DGX had the same part number as the stuff loaded with the old non-interbond bullet. Had to send it back. This ammo new ammo, both soft and solid has a pronounced flat meplate. I have worked up some hand loads and the point of impact between the soft and solid is very close at 100 yards. | |||
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Still looking for some more field test type feedback on the .375 and .458 bullets , is there anyone other than Ivan who has tested these bullets properly? The solids sound good, it will be interesting to see how the softs perform in terms of consistent expansion? | |||
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This has nothing to do with bullet performance, only advertised velocity. I got a box each of the DGS and Interbond 400gr. loaded rounds for my 416 Rigby a few weeks ago. Midway was out of Hornady brass, but had the ammo. So I decided to go that route and do some testing in the process. Shot them over the chrony Saturday afternoon. The soft/Interbond was around 2425 out of my 23" Ruger RSM. The DGS was around 2450 out of the same rifle. That's a rough average of 3 shots each. Didn't shoot any groups as this was just a quick run for schits and giggles. These were measured at roughly 10-12 feet off the muzzle. | |||
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These have been out for a while now and have received some good reports. Does anyone have pictures of recovered bullets or more info to add to this thread? | |||
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I've killed two elephants and a buffalo with DGS bullets in factory loads, the first elephant and the buffalo with a .458 Win Mag and the second elephant with a .416 Ruger. Both elephants were side brain shots and shoot throughs. No bullets of the 4 shot in the buffalo were recovered. (I was too busy changing my shorts). I shot both elephants in the chest with a couple of insurance shots with all of them exiting but one (I think?). Here's a picture of the one I found in the skin of the far shoulder. The picture makes it look a bit bent, but it isn't at all. I'm happy with DGS's and will use them on an elephant and maybe a hippo in September in my .450 N.E. JudgeG ... just counting time 'til I am again finding balm in Gilead chilled out somewhere in the Selous. | |||
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I shot a buff with the 416 DGX through the shoulders and recovered the perfectly mushroomed bullet under the skin on the off side. The insurance shot went clear through and was not recovered. I used a 470 DGS on elephant with a side brain shot. While skinning the headed the staff recovered the bullet and I slipped it back into the case and could not tell it had been fired. DRSS | |||
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Actually while skinning out the head not headed. Don't know how to edit. DRSS | |||
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