i finaly got my 700 nitro in from butch searcy i will be posting pics of the rifle tonight or tomorro as soon as i get the new camera figured out.
its a beatiful rifle with english scroll type engraving the rifle balance's well and points right where i am looking and the lock up is like a bank vault.
i am going to try it out next weekend on some hogs so we will see how those 1000 grain woodleigh soft points work
Posts: 2095 | Location: B.C | Registered: 31 January 2002
Hopefully you are 6ft10" or taller and weigh 300lbs to handle that recoil I would wait till you line up 4-6 hogs before pulling the trigger. If you hit just 1 hog, you will pulverize it and have no reference for entry or exit hole studies
Posts: 3036 | Location: Tanzania - The Land of Plenty | Registered: 19 September 2003
What does it weigh. I'm thinking that Feldsteins (the cartridge's designer) H&H Double weighed 19 lbs. The trackers argued everyday about who had to carry it. The first elephant to fall to the round was in SW Ethiopia in 1990.
Rich Elliott
Posts: 2013 | Location: Crossville, IL 62827 USA | Registered: 07 February 2001
my sister is finnaly home i will have her show me what to do with the camera i will be posting some pics with in the next 1-2 hours
man i find the gun well balanced and light i can whip it around like a rag doll but keep in mind my standard hunting rifle a 8 bore jager is about 12-13 pounds so i am used to a heavy gun. plus i lift weights.
Posts: 2095 | Location: B.C | Registered: 31 January 2002
that is monstrous! Very nice gun, look like it balances well. Do you think you could take a picture lookingi at the barrels from the front, with the 700 nitro round on one side and a 45cal on the other for comparison? Even at 18 pounds I don't think I would want to be shooting that beast.
Red
Posts: 4742 | Location: Fresno, CA | Registered: 21 March 2003
no problem 1c i get the camera charged up ill take a few more pics
i will take 1 with with the camera pointing at me while pointing twords the camera and ill put a 458 lott shell at the end of the barrel for comparasion.
Posts: 2095 | Location: B.C | Registered: 31 January 2002
Beautiful gun. However, like Dago Red, I am not sure I want to pull the trigger on that bad boy! What are the ballistics on the 1000gr bullet? When/where/and what are you going to hunt with it?
DO NOT FLINCH when you pull the trigger the first couple times...
have a friend load it, with snap caps for about 10 firings, and then load ONE in either chamber... until you get VERY used to shooting it, only load ONE, then shoot the other barrel.
if you flinch badly, it will hurt you.
this is from a 577 as a point of reference.. but it only weighed 13.5 and was going a real 2150 with 750s...
Congratulations! I stand corrected, seeing you acutally got the rifle. Be sure to have someone video the first shooting. I'll host it! Yeeeow! That is going to be a monster!
Posts: 9797 | Location: Missouri City, Texas | Registered: 21 June 2000
Quote: How can anyone afford something like that? That range session cost $450 per your numbers. Geez.
The answer is: Don't throw out your brass.
Bullets are US$103 for a box of 25, and each shot takes 1/30th of a pound of powder.
Assuming powder is US$18 per pound, that's $0.60 for powder per shot, pluas $0.04 per primer per shot, plus $4 per bullet per shot, for a grand total of US$4.64 per shot. For a mere US$100 you can enjoy a range session that will put you into a coma.
Posts: 18352 | Location: Salt Lake City, Utah USA | Registered: 20 April 2002
Well I'm sure of one thing Robert Ruark would sure be proud of you Nitro, by "using enough gun". It is a great looking double and I know all that have gazed upon it are just wanting the feel of it in their hands, enjoy......Bob
Posts: 94 | Location: S.E Pa | Registered: 05 October 2002
Quote: How can anyone afford something like that? That range session cost $450 per your numbers. Geez.
The answer is: Don't throw out your brass.
Bullets are US$103 for a box of 25, and each shot takes 1/30th of a pound of powder.
Assuming powder is US$18 per pound, that's $0.60 for powder per shot, pluas $0.04 per primer per shot, plus $4 per bullet per shot, for a grand total of US$4.64 per shot. For a mere US$100 you can enjoy a range session that will put you into a coma.
$100, $450... There are restaurants where you can spend that much on dinner. What would you rather do, fire a 700 NE all day or eat a 5-course dinner in a suit? One of those makes a lot more interesting conversation a year from now than the other (assuming that wasn't the dinner you proposed to your wife at).
H. C.
Posts: 3691 | Location: West Virginia | Registered: 23 May 2001
Quote: there was a 20 minute cool down period between sets also gun barrels were wiped clean between sets.
Congratulations on finally getting your 700 NE Searcy, It looks like a fun gun for any masochist!
One word on the working up of loads for a double rifle, of any size! First, fire a round in each barrel, and then do not clean the barrels till the load is worked up! OR, 20 shots in each barrel, which ever comes first, and then only run a dry patch through it, if you intend shooting it again in the next month. For storage for longer periods, clean, and run a very lightly oiled patch, and store, muzzles down! The muzzel down avoids oil running into the striker holes, or into the lock work! Over long periods the oil can damage the wood dirrectly behind the action!
Doubles shoot, and regulate best with slightly fouled barrels!
Again congrats on your new cannon!
Posts: 14634 | Location: TEXAS | Registered: 08 June 2000
Al Straitiff of compettitor Corp will sell individual loaded rounds at $60 apiece shipped for someone who wants one for their collection. His number is 603-532-9483
Posts: 941 | Location: VT | Registered: 17 May 2001
WOW. Can I say again, WOW I would suggest that you invest in a custom 70cal bullet mold for informal range sessions and shooting of lesser beasts. I had a 500gn mold made for my 470NE from www.mountainmolds.com I tried some Barnes XLC's and the 500cast at the same velocity and they shot the same, so I've been shooting cast for cheap. I made an adjustable 12ga mold awhile back, it turned out rough, but shootable. I showed my idea to Dan. He has been considering tooling up for larger molds, I don't know where he is at in the process, but he has an online bullet design program that will show you what the bullet looks like with dimensions and stuff.
Posts: 2924 | Location: Arkansas | Registered: 23 December 2002
What a great rifle the Seary Double 700 NE is, and the fact that you are going after ele wil make it all the more interesting. Rifles are only interesting to me if you can hunt with them.
Are there any recoil problems that affect the second trigger, like banging your finger when you touch off the first barrel or the tendency to double on this beast??????????
Dak
Posts: 495 | Location: USA | Registered: 25 December 2003
A few years back, I was hanging out in a gun shop I had dealt with for many years and a customer came in and picked up delivery of a 700 Nitro. I honestly don't recall the maker but it was a handsome rifle. I also shuddered when I heard the caliber.
I know this sounds made up but by an incredible coincidence I was on the local rifle range on the same morning this guy was starting to shoot the 700 Nitro. The range had about a hundred firing points and I was on the other end but word began to spread that some poor guy was taking some brutal punishment at bench rest. Some few hours later I heard he was peddling the rifle for sale. I am with you. He had better be 6'10" and 300 lbs or he better use a twin brother to sight her in. (I shot a 600 N.E. some years back -on a dare. It really wasn't that bad. I say it wasn't "that bad" because I was still standing and didn't have a dislocated shoulder. The idea of sighting it in from bench rest would have made me weak in the knees) I really hope that "700 Nitro" conquers his rifle. (Yes, I think "conquers" is the right word) I just felt with the 600 Nitro that my brain pan was being shook up - and that like a fighter, I couldn't afford to take too many more punches like that to the head!
Posts: 649 | Location: NY | Registered: 15 January 2004
We had a young man on safari last year with one of those but he walked out on the river sand to shoot his Hippo and sunk, never did find him or the gun!!
Had another young tough 6'4" 300 pound gentleman with one of Butches 700s on an elephant track and after 12 hours on that track he was 5'4" and lost 100 pounds, we had to carry him and the gun back to camp...
So, be carefull and congratulations on a time period piece of caliber history, it is a beatiful gun and I would love to pound a buffalo with it...Want to rent it?
Posts: 42507 | Location: Twin Falls, Idaho | Registered: 04 June 2000
Get off the weight crap already. I can understand your concern if the hunter is 50+ pounds overweight and thinks a phyiscal work-out is walking over to the coffee machine.
700 Nitro, that thing is f...ing BIG! How is the recoil? Is the rifle heavy enough to slow the recoil down to a BIG push or is there still some serious stab to it? The old 8 bore double I shot did a whole lot of pushing, but no stabbing. It weighed something like 15 or 16 pounds.
Scott
Posts: 1662 | Location: USA | Registered: 27 November 2003
I'm no expert here, but I don't think that shooting from the bench is the best way to go here. I made a 2x4 L that I C-clamped to the side of the shooting range upright post. I put my sandbags on it, got comfortable, then lifted up to shoot. It was only a 470, but didn't seem bad this way.
Posts: 2924 | Location: Arkansas | Registered: 23 December 2002
Quote: How is the recoil? Is the rifle heavy enough to slow the recoil down to a BIG push or is there still some serious stab to it? Scott
I'd say the recoil will be light enough that in answering questions on it he will be able to stick to actual shooting experience, rather than continually 'extrapolating estimates' as he had to with the 2 bore.
Karl.
Posts: 3540 | Location: various | Registered: 03 June 2000
guys the recoil is not bad as one would think try and think of the recoil as a long heavy push as if some one has there hand on your shoulder and throughs there weights into it
it dosnt jab at all
jeffoso i was geralizing the cost (giving a rough figure i was in no way giving a exact cost at the time of the post)
the real cost is
15-20$ for brass depending where you buy it
4.00$ a bullet and about 40 cents in powder.
so we will round it out to 20-25$ if you through out the brass after ever shot.
Posts: 2095 | Location: B.C | Registered: 31 January 2002