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i finaly got my 700 nitro in from butch searcy i will be posting pics of the rifle tonight or tomorro as soon as i get the new camera figured out. its a beatiful rifle with english scroll type engraving the rifle balance's well and points right where i am looking and the lock up is like a bank vault. i am going to try it out next weekend on some hogs so we will see how those 1000 grain woodleigh soft points work | ||
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Hopefully you are 6ft10" or taller and weigh 300lbs to handle that recoil I would wait till you line up 4-6 hogs before pulling the trigger. If you hit just 1 hog, you will pulverize it and have no reference for entry or exit hole studies | |||
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700 Nitro What does it weigh. I'm thinking that Feldsteins (the cartridge's designer) H&H Double weighed 19 lbs. The trackers argued everyday about who had to carry it. The first elephant to fall to the round was in SW Ethiopia in 1990. Rich Elliott | |||
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the gun weighs 18 pounds my sister is finnaly home i will have her show me what to do with the camera i will be posting some pics with in the next 1-2 hours man i find the gun well balanced and light i can whip it around like a rag doll but keep in mind my standard hunting rifle a 8 bore jager is about 12-13 pounds so i am used to a heavy gun. plus i lift weights. | |||
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here are some pics i took i will get better 1s in a while | |||
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that is monstrous! Very nice gun, look like it balances well. Do you think you could take a picture lookingi at the barrels from the front, with the 700 nitro round on one side and a 45cal on the other for comparison? Even at 18 pounds I don't think I would want to be shooting that beast. Red | |||
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no problem 1c i get the camera charged up ill take a few more pics i will take 1 with with the camera pointing at me while pointing twords the camera and ill put a 458 lott shell at the end of the barrel for comparasion. | |||
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Beautiful gun. However, like Dago Red, I am not sure I want to pull the trigger on that bad boy! What are the ballistics on the 1000gr bullet? When/where/and what are you going to hunt with it? | |||
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i will be hunting wild boar next week with it but in april i will be going to botswana for elephant and buffalo. | |||
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Congrats Steve... DO NOT FLINCH when you pull the trigger the first couple times... have a friend load it, with snap caps for about 10 firings, and then load ONE in either chamber... until you get VERY used to shooting it, only load ONE, then shoot the other barrel. if you flinch badly, it will hurt you. this is from a 577 as a point of reference.. but it only weighed 13.5 and was going a real 2150 with 750s... at 18#, it shouldn't be bad at all.. jeffe | |||
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I want to shoot it!!!!!!!!!!!!! How much does one cartridge cost? | |||
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Congratulations! I stand corrected, seeing you acutally got the rifle. Be sure to have someone video the first shooting. I'll host it! Yeeeow! That is going to be a monster! | |||
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DAMN!!!!, thats big | |||
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here... jumbo.... jumbo... jumbo... man i cant wait to lay a big can of whoop ass on somthin with it. there was a 20 minute cool down period between sets also gun barrels were wiped clean between sets. i brought it to the gun range to day and fired 15 shots first 5 at 20 yards to get use to the rifle all shots hit a 1 1/2 circle off hand second 5 shot at 30 yards same thing 1 1/2" sticker last 5 at 50 yards all shots into a 2 1/2"-3" circle off hand this is taking my time no rushing. just a nice steady rate of fire | |||
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pat factory ammo is 100$ a shot how ever i reload and im paying (if i through out the brass) 30$ a shot | |||
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How can anyone afford something like that? That range session cost $450 per your numbers. Geez. | |||
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That is the kind of rifle I dream of owning one day !! Congratulations you must be one ver proud bloke !! | |||
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Quote: The answer is: Don't throw out your brass. Bullets are US$103 for a box of 25, and each shot takes 1/30th of a pound of powder. Assuming powder is US$18 per pound, that's $0.60 for powder per shot, pluas $0.04 per primer per shot, plus $4 per bullet per shot, for a grand total of US$4.64 per shot. For a mere US$100 you can enjoy a range session that will put you into a coma. | |||
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700 Nitro Well I'm sure of one thing Robert Ruark would sure be proud of you Nitro, by "using enough gun". It is a great looking double and I know all that have gazed upon it are just wanting the feel of it in their hands, enjoy......Bob | |||
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Quote:Quote: $100, $450... There are restaurants where you can spend that much on dinner. What would you rather do, fire a 700 NE all day or eat a 5-course dinner in a suit? One of those makes a lot more interesting conversation a year from now than the other (assuming that wasn't the dinner you proposed to your wife at). H. C. | |||
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Gentlemen, If the ammo is loaded to duplicate factory ammo, it does not really kick hard at all. Things start getting interesting once you start getting past 2200 fps. Here is a picture of our rifle, together with loading data we developed in it. Bolt action 700 NE | |||
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Quote: Congratulations on finally getting your 700 NE Searcy, It looks like a fun gun for any masochist! One word on the working up of loads for a double rifle, of any size! First, fire a round in each barrel, and then do not clean the barrels till the load is worked up! OR, 20 shots in each barrel, which ever comes first, and then only run a dry patch through it, if you intend shooting it again in the next month. For storage for longer periods, clean, and run a very lightly oiled patch, and store, muzzles down! The muzzel down avoids oil running into the striker holes, or into the lock work! Over long periods the oil can damage the wood dirrectly behind the action! Doubles shoot, and regulate best with slightly fouled barrels! Again congrats on your new cannon! | |||
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Even at $100/shot, I still want to shoot it. Shooting something like this canon would be better than taking my wife out to dinner any day. | |||
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HI, That is a beasty, nice rifle and will be fun shooting. Kev | |||
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VERY cool gun! Congrats Steve! Best, JohnTheGreek | |||
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Al Straitiff of compettitor Corp will sell individual loaded rounds at $60 apiece shipped for someone who wants one for their collection. His number is 603-532-9483 | |||
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WOW. Can I say again, WOW I would suggest that you invest in a custom 70cal bullet mold for informal range sessions and shooting of lesser beasts. I had a 500gn mold made for my 470NE from www.mountainmolds.com I tried some Barnes XLC's and the 500cast at the same velocity and they shot the same, so I've been shooting cast for cheap. I made an adjustable 12ga mold awhile back, it turned out rough, but shootable. I showed my idea to Dan. He has been considering tooling up for larger molds, I don't know where he is at in the process, but he has an online bullet design program that will show you what the bullet looks like with dimensions and stuff. | |||
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What a great rifle the Seary Double 700 NE is, and the fact that you are going after ele wil make it all the more interesting. Rifles are only interesting to me if you can hunt with them. Are there any recoil problems that affect the second trigger, like banging your finger when you touch off the first barrel or the tendency to double on this beast?????????? Dak | |||
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Now THAT's a king sized can of WhoopAss!!!!!!! Wow ... Congratulations on your fine acquisition and your elevation to the stratosphere of the "Big Gun!" ranks. | |||
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bwanamich: A few years back, I was hanging out in a gun shop I had dealt with for many years and a customer came in and picked up delivery of a 700 Nitro. I honestly don't recall the maker but it was a handsome rifle. I also shuddered when I heard the caliber. I know this sounds made up but by an incredible coincidence I was on the local rifle range on the same morning this guy was starting to shoot the 700 Nitro. The range had about a hundred firing points and I was on the other end but word began to spread that some poor guy was taking some brutal punishment at bench rest. Some few hours later I heard he was peddling the rifle for sale. I am with you. He had better be 6'10" and 300 lbs or he better use a twin brother to sight her in. (I shot a 600 N.E. some years back -on a dare. It really wasn't that bad. I say it wasn't "that bad" because I was still standing and didn't have a dislocated shoulder. The idea of sighting it in from bench rest would have made me weak in the knees) I really hope that "700 Nitro" conquers his rifle. (Yes, I think "conquers" is the right word) I just felt with the 600 Nitro that my brain pan was being shook up - and that like a fighter, I couldn't afford to take too many more punches like that to the head! | |||
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We had a young man on safari last year with one of those but he walked out on the river sand to shoot his Hippo and sunk, never did find him or the gun!! Had another young tough 6'4" 300 pound gentleman with one of Butches 700s on an elephant track and after 12 hours on that track he was 5'4" and lost 100 pounds, we had to carry him and the gun back to camp... So, be carefull and congratulations on a time period piece of caliber history, it is a beatiful gun and I would love to pound a buffalo with it...Want to rent it? | |||
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700 nitro, Please post a color photo of your shoulder the day after shooting 15 rounds at the range with this rifle! | |||
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Hand it over to smallfry, that will roll me in the grass. | |||
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Ray, Get off the weight crap already. I can understand your concern if the hunter is 50+ pounds overweight and thinks a phyiscal work-out is walking over to the coffee machine. 700 Nitro, that thing is f...ing BIG! How is the recoil? Is the rifle heavy enough to slow the recoil down to a BIG push or is there still some serious stab to it? The old 8 bore double I shot did a whole lot of pushing, but no stabbing. It weighed something like 15 or 16 pounds. Scott | |||
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I'm no expert here, but I don't think that shooting from the bench is the best way to go here. I made a 2x4 L that I C-clamped to the side of the shooting range upright post. I put my sandbags on it, got comfortable, then lifted up to shoot. It was only a 470, but didn't seem bad this way. | |||
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Quote: Steve, you amortize the brass, not throw it out. If you are spend more than 6 bucks a shot, you are wasting money, AGAIN... 6 us, that is. the bullets are 4 bucks http://www.huntingtons.com/Bullet-Woodleigh.html powder should be about 50-75 � (assuming 3 shots per oz, 50�, 2 shots per oz 75�, 22 is bucks a #) primer is 3 � looks like 5 bucks, US to me. Please don't further exaggerate the monster.. Yo've got it we see it we know what it costs to shoot Even if the brass cost 30 bucks each... and had an expected life of 10 shots (should be more) that brings your total, USD, to 8 bucks a pop. Not cheap, but not 30 bucks, either. jeffe | |||
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Quote: I'd say the recoil will be light enough that in answering questions on it he will be able to stick to actual shooting experience, rather than continually 'extrapolating estimates' as he had to with the 2 bore. Karl. | |||
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guys the recoil is not bad as one would think try and think of the recoil as a long heavy push as if some one has there hand on your shoulder and throughs there weights into it it dosnt jab at all jeffoso i was geralizing the cost (giving a rough figure i was in no way giving a exact cost at the time of the post) the real cost is 15-20$ for brass depending where you buy it 4.00$ a bullet and about 40 cents in powder. so we will round it out to 20-25$ if you through out the brass after ever shot. | |||
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