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Just one more excuse to piss on fellow hunters, love the forced morality idea here. "You didn't take the animal as I would have so you sir are a bag of poo", do you guys pack around white gloves to slap someone after you spew out this holier that thou tripe? If you don't want to shoot from a truck then friggin don't! If you see the trophy you desire and the opportunity take it presents itself while you happen to be in the back of the truck on the trip you paid for in a land where it is legal who the hell am I to tell you not to?? I do love how we divide ourselves along fictional morality lines, sure makes it easier for anti hunters to work against a divided group don't you think??


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Posts: 412 | Location: Wy | Registered: 02 November 2007Reply With Quote
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I never mentioned the subject of ethics in my critisism of this show. I limited it to the how we protray ourselves to non-hunters and youth hunters and objected to calling shooting from a vehicle as hunting, but since others have injected "ethics" into the debate, consider that most if not all U.S. State laws make it illegal to shoot at game animals from a motorized vehicle or across a public road. The U.S. has already decided that it is unethical. I would not have the objection to the show that I do if they had said that shooting from a vehicle is legal in Namibia (assuming it is legal) but don't do it at home as in most states it is illegal. Check your local regulations first.

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J Carr,
First no question was raised on ethics or morality. I asked why he would do it ?when the sponsors are paying for the BEST show possible. do you think they got what they paid for ?
To do a show like that and not explain why etc. is in mho not doing the sponsors justice.
I for one will not watch the show again, that is my choice.
We are judged by the shows put on TV , I havent seen you on a show and I, myself have not been on either. Therefore the voting public only knows what they see on the tube. Sometimes it is not a good representation of us.


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No one would pass up the opportunity.

But, I bet some would claim they would.


I agree with almost all of what you say, but in this case I disagree. I've been in a couple situations where I could have killed what I was hunting if I wanted to stop my vehicle, load up and shoot. I didn't, and am damned glad I didn't. It's ripping yourself off from a true hunting experience. Maybe I'm just still too green, but that's how I see it, and hope I never change.


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Posts: 2897 | Location: Boston, MA | Registered: 04 January 2005Reply With Quote
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Okay fellas, just in case anyone hasn't already figured it out, hunting shows and magazine stories for that matter wouldn't draw to many repeat viewers if the stories were as mundane as most hunts. All of us are expecting something to be shot. The rush to please views results in any number of things we may not otherwise condone. Normally these things are left out of the show or story but don't let that fool you into thinking it was all walk and stalk!
I'm not condeeming anyone, the celebrety hunters or those among we normal folks who may do the same. Its simply a fact of life that the writer or director only has so much time and needs results. Its the dirty little secret of such media. Not just truck shooting but driving game, employing a number of "spotters" to locate game and direct the "hunters" to it and other practices you're not likely to see in the fifteen minutes of aired footage in a thirty minute show. Not just Africa hunting shows but deer, turkeys, geese, etc. are all done the same. Some employing legal but questionably ethical practices and some downright breaking the law to "get the shot."

Again, NOT ALL employ such practices but I'd wager those who don't are precious few.


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I can't remember how many versions of this topic I have seen on this site in the past, but.. I agree with the posts that said "if it is legal MYOB and that also applies for how you celebrate a successful hunt. To each their own. It would be a pretty damn boring world if we were all alike.
 
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Some of you guys are absolutely silly to think that non-hunters and youth sit around watching the Outdoor Channel or Versus to see what hunters are doing or killing next and methods to kill that animal. Sure, there are probably a select few that do, but the vast majority, which would probably be greater than 90%, don't even know what channel these hunting shows are located on their cable or satellite suscriptions. I would wager to guess that 99% of the people watching these shows are, guess what HUNTERS, and not non-hunters or youth!

My wife is a perfect example, when I'm not around the house she is either watching the Food Channel, HGTV or some other channel that has something that she is interested in, which is not hunting because she is a non-hunter.


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Could you imagine Craig Boddington or Jim Shockey shooting a zebra out of the back of a truck? Some shows have a lot more class than others.

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Could you imagine Craig Boddington or Jim Shockey shooting a zebra out of the back of a truck? Some shows have a lot more class than others.

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No....nor would they. That pretty well sums it up.

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Go on an African hunt with your father. No better hunting experience than that. Due to age limitations etc., animals will be shot out of the truck.

So what.


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