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From Hunting the Elephant in Africa and Other Recollections of Thirteen Years' Wanderings by Captain C. H. Stigand (1913):

"There is something so fascinating and absorbing about elephant hunting that those who have done much of it can seldom take any interest again in any other form of sport. It seems so vastly superior to all other big game shooting that, once they have surrendered themselves to its charms, they cannot even treat any other form of hunting seriously. Everything else seems little and insignificant by comparison."

And the congregation all said, "Amen!"


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Just and observation, but I don't believe Stigand would have considered much of the "elephant hunting" done today as real elephant hunting.

I think he would have scoffed at cow elephant hunts.

But I am often wrong.


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Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt.

Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry
Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure.

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well I guess that just says it all so damn well, succinctly and beautifully that I have nothing to add to it accept AMEN!


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The modern version, to quote Jonny Hulme, "After you hunt elephant, everything else is just rats and mice."


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Amen.


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I love it. I find myself wanting to hunt elephant and buffalo only these days.
 
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Gentlemen I am not an elephant hunter, having fired only two rounds into the heart/lung area of a bull that belonged to a friend as back-up for a botched frontal brain shot, by prior conscription. However having been that close was very exciting! I certainly see the addiction to it! tu2

All else being “RATS & MICE” is the way I feel about Cape Buffalo hunting, and I’m sure if I took a good bull elephant on my own that would place the Buffalo down a peg or two as well. coffee
All this is only a memory, and dreaming at this age, health condition, and income, but I can certainly urge you youngsters on from here!

DO it while you are young, age may teach you some things that age will also keep you from enjoying as well!

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Elephants, oh yes! ELEPHANTS!!!
 
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oh lordy lordy, amen.

it's all I can think about


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the only sad part is that its so damm expensive.
 
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Africa offers a treasure trove of adventures in exotic places. To me elephant hunting is just one of those adventures. I think I'd be cheating myself to concentrate solely on elephant hunting.

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Africa offers a treasure trove of adventures in exotic places. To me elephant hunting is just one of those adventures. I think I'd be cheating myself to concentrate solely on elephant hunting.

exactly right. while i prefer the cats to eles there are so many many other adventures out there
 
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Africa offers a treasure trove of adventures in exotic places. To me elephant hunting is just one of those adventures. I think I'd be cheating myself to concentrate solely on elephant hunting.



+2... but I have to admit, elephant hunting is really, really fun! The excitement of getting close is one of my favorite adrenaline rushes! And those who think cow hunts are anything less than toe curling , sweaty palmed, eye bulging adventure, needs to do more of it! But just my usual $.02....


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DO it while you are young, age may teach you some things that age will also keep you from enjoying as well


Mac that is very well said - one of the best statements I have seen on AR.


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From yon far country blows:
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What spires, what farms are those?
That is the land of lost content,
I see it shining plain,
The happy highways where I went
And cannot come again.

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All true and a bit of a problem. Besides elephant I can only get excited about absolute superior plains game, e.g. a 60" Kudu, 40" Gemsbuck Bull, 40" Eland or a 18" Springbok all to be taken in unfenced free ranging areas.


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Africa offers a treasure trove of adventures in exotic places. To me elephant hunting is just one of those adventures. I think I'd be cheating myself to concentrate solely on elephant hunting.

Mark


Mark,

Another thing with which I totally agree. I would rather shoot a 60 inch kudu any day than a cow elephant.


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People keep asking me why I keep going on elephant safaris time after time? I allways tell them "If I have to explain it you will not understandit" smile and keep my mouth shut. After all I don´t need to explain how truly alive I feel while chasing those magnificent brutes.


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I love it. I find myself wanting to hunt elephant and buffalo only these days.



+1 !!!!

My experience has been that Elephants test your limits of physical and emotional endurance and that's what I like about the sport!

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Or as they say about war: "Endless hours of sheer boredom punctuated by moments of sheer terror"!
 
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a very good friend of mine, himself a well known ph had an old spanish client who hunted with him ten years in a row and took a bull every year , he finally got to old to hunt and one day at dinner in madrid he was asked if he had any regrets from just hunting elephants and nothing else , his reply was, yes , i should have started earlier and i should have hunted two every year !!!!!

one of my habits when we kill a bull is to leave the hunter alone with his trophy for a while - its often a flood of emotion that a guy needs to be alone for - not at all to diminish other game but i am not sure that that is the same for anything else !


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Originally posted by ivan carter:
a very good friend of mine, himself a well known ph had an old spanish client who hunted with him ten years in a row and took a bull every year , he finally got to old to hunt and one day at dinner in madrid he was asked if he had any regrets from just hunting elephants and nothing else , his reply was, yes , i should have started earlier and i should have hunted two every year !!!!!


That is so true Ivan.. Fortunately I started 9 years ago when I was 31 Smiler And hopefully I have another 30-40 years hunting ahead of me.. Smiler
 
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a very good friend of mine, himself a well known ph had an old spanish client who hunted with him ten years in a row and took a bull every year , he finally got to old to hunt and one day at dinner in madrid he was asked if he had any regrets from just hunting elephants and nothing else , his reply was, yes , i should have started earlier and i should have hunted two every year !!!!!


That is so true Ivan.. Fortunately I started 9 years ago when I was 31 Smiler And hopefully I have another 30-40 years hunting ahead of me.. Smiler

May the quarry be plentiful and lawful to pursue for those three or four decades and more...



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I would have written :

"There is something so fascinating and absorbing about elephant hunting that those who have done much of it can seldom take any interest again in any other form of sport. It seems so vastly superior to all other big game shooting sport that, once they have surrendered themselves to its charms, they cannot even treat any other form of hunting sport seriously. Everything else seems little and insignificant by comparison."

Big Grin

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It took me a few trips and lots of reading to get me up to hunting elephant. A good teacher has added encouragement. I wish I had started school sooner. I would like to think I have more elephant hunts ahead of me than behind me, but one never knows.
 
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one of my habits when we kill a bull is to leave the hunter alone with his trophy for a while - its often a flood of emotion that a guy needs to be alone for - not at all to diminish other game but i am not sure that that is the same for anything else !


I like your style!


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Lorenzo,

Your post above is exactly how I feel about hunting, ANY kind of hunting. VERY well said!

Ivan,

I like your style too! Leaving your client alone with his animal after the kill is proper and shows class. My PH did this with me on my very first African animal, a magnificent kudu. He said, "I'll leave you alone with your animal while we (he and the tracker) go and get the truck." The kudu lay there in the tall grass, in the shade of a tree, his horns glistening and the stripes on his flanks almost glowing. It was possibly the best 30 minutes of my life. It gives you time to reflect on your accomplishment and the moment. That's when it all sinks in.
 
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Lorenzo,

Your post above is exactly how I feel about hunting, ANY kind of hunting. VERY well said!

Ivan,

I like your style too! Leaving your client alone with his animal after the kill is proper and shows class. My PH did this with me on my very first African animal, a magnificent kudu. He said, "I'll leave you alone with your animal while we (he and the tracker) go and get the truck." The kudu lay there in the tall grass, in the shade of a tree, his horns glistening and the stripes on his flanks almost glowing. It was possibly the best 30 minutes of my life. It gives you time to reflect on your accomplishment and the moment. That's when it all sinks in.


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I have had the pleasure of harvesting 2 bulls. When one closes into shooting range emotions are at a high point.

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The modern version, to quote Jonny Hulme, "After you hunt elephant, everything else is just rats and mice."


Will, thank you for sharing that one. I had not heard it before, but, IMHO, it says it all!! tu2


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November in Namibia:
A date with a tusker and a 600NE double;
my dad backing me up.
Can anything be better?
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Elephants are very addictive(all of mine have been bulls and up close),the first for me was the best hunting experience I have ever had,the ones after that just got better.
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Having passed going this year just so I could afford an Ele hunt next year, I totally look forward to hunting one of those magnificent beast in May 2012!
 
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November in Namibia:
A date with a tusker and a 600NE double;
my dad backing me up.
Can anything be better?
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Maybe your son on his first elephant hunt with you there to back him up. My first deer was pretty neat but my daughters first deer was way better. I don't know... Maybe elepant is different than deer-my daughter has not been on an elephant hunt yet.


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November in Namibia:
A date with a tusker and a 600NE double;
my dad backing me up.
Can anything be better?
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Maybe your son on his first elephant hunt with you there to back him up. My first deer was pretty neat but my daughters first deer was way better. I don't know... Maybe elepant is different than deer-my daughter has not been on an elephant hunt yet.


I stand corrected beer

And the only thing I can think of to top being with my children as they hunt would be for their Grandpa to be there with us!


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When my son graduates medical school, we are heading out for elephant. I have not yet done it, but everyone that does says ele is the best there is.
 
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